So when are we going to see more of Nintendo’s NX, anyway?

With nine months until its planned release, where is Nintendo's next console?

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[Quiet Desperation]

where is Nintendo's next console?

Slight delay. They haven't found the hookshot required to get into the prototype lab, but one employee with a bomb thinks he saw a weak spot in the side wall.

 

[Sixclaws]

Remember: The louder the rumors are about how high-performance the hardware on a Nintendo console is going to be, the higher the chances are that it's going to be the opposite.

 

[Sharra]

I have literally zero confidence in this system being anything I want from Nintendo. I will probably buy the stupid thing for Zelda, but I expect it to sit gathering dust most of the time.

 

[Daros]

sttm[/url]":z5vk7exf]Well to be fair to Nintendo, they aren't even the worse offender at this, that would be Sony who has a console coming this year, that they confirmed, but then do not show it, or make any effort at all to explain what is going on.

Nintendo at least has their lies about copycats going for them.

Sony hasn't confirmed a date for the Neo, only that games starting this October will need to support a Neo mode.

 

[Vincent294]

This is either going to make or break them, though their awkward behavior isn't getting my hopes up. At least their exclusives are good. Of course, what I'd really want to know is if they've figured out how to make a good network yet.

 

[mikesmith]

Zebulon314[/url]":1ghat3bd]I appreciate what Nintendo's trying to do, but this type of subterfuge, with the implied excuse that it's SO awesome that everyone will drop what they're planning and copy us, just sets the bar unreachably high.

IMHO, Nintendo should stop making hardware, and just focus on being a game company, expanding it's reach onto all platforms. Can you imagine how much money they could make just by simply releasing their older titles on smartphones?

The problem is nintendo is mentally stuck in the 80s and think a company can only succeed by controlling a platform and extracting a pound of flesh from anyone hoping to develop for it. I agree with you, they should accept that they were wrong in what they did to Sony 20+ years ago and begin a new life as a publisher with very valuable IP to their name.

 

[Claymsmith]

Sharra[/url]":2s7h7rda]I have literally zero confidence in this system being anything I want from Nintendo. I will probably buy the stupid thing for Zelda, but I expect it to sit gathering dust most of the time.

Not at all trying to sound rude or dismissive, but thats exactly what Nintendo is going for now. We all grew up with a Nintendo and they're riding those IPs and that brand loyalty until the end.

 

[Snarky Robot]

It's the silence on the games aspect that worries me. Even without hardware, having a decent roadmap of games can be useful. I had the same criticism during the lead-up to the release of the Steam Machines. If you have a solid games roadmap, "delays" are really hard to accomplish, because you're pissing a lot of people off who thought they'd have a new platform to launch on. When you never get a "this is our day 1 launch bonanza of games"...you're going to hear a lot of crickets at the register, too. See, again: Steam Machines.

Nintendo is somewhat safer in this regard as the best (and often most successful) games come directly from the Nintendojo, but that's precisely one of the problems that Nintendo has had-- they're the "second console", and often have problems with third-party games being late and worse than their rivals. I'll probably pick one up (the Wii U never dropped to a pricepoint I was willing to pay) at some point, but the likelihood of me making it my "primary" console are essentially nil.

I understand wanting to not leak hardware stuff. But software is just as important. Without some decent non-Nintendo stuff lined up (and leaking), the NX just keeps getting stuffed into my mental "Nintendo-only game box", rather than my "I need to buy it day 1" box.

 

[jasonridesabike]

10 bucks says they're bringing back the power glove.

 

[Statistical]

Anyone want to try and figure out how 900p is 4K? It sounds like they are up scaling but I think more its in testing phase and they are not going to fully support 4K tho at this point and time 4K is more likely than DS/3DS/WII support....

What are you talking about?

 

[Statistical]

- The NX is heavily rumored to return to cartridges.

What is wrong with cartridges? Flash capacity has risen faster than optical media capacity has and costs are now low enough that it might be viable. When DVD CD hit it was a radical jump in capacity 650MB vs 16MB for carts of the time but since then pushing optical capacities higher has proven to be a challenge.

 

[Deleted member 12422]

I love you Nintendo, but FFS I am so sick of the gimmicks. I thought the Wii U put to rest the notion that people will buy based on gimmickry. Just put your damn games on a system people want to buy. Is that so hard?

 

[greatn]

I think I've seen more NX speculation articles online then I ever would have if they had actually announced the thing already.

I don't think any of it matters. Consumers don't need 12 months of hype to get ready for a product. It takes significantly less time than that to market something successfully(though the legwork for the marketing has to be done in advance so it can roll out smoothly). They're probably focusing on having a good launch for core Nintendo fans who are going to seek out information on the system regardless with a big marketing push and hopefully good word of mouth and press coverage of the launch pushing into Christmas 2017.

 

[Zebulon314]

Violynne[/url]":1a9gf79u]Kyle,

Are you serious?

You're an adult now. It's time you realize Nintendo stopped being relevant in the home console market since the N64. In case you need a refresher, here are the issues developers and gamers have had with the company over the years:

- It released a 64 bit system with cartridge based hardware.

- It used "friend codes" to play online.

- It stated to the world we weren't ready for HD gaming.

- Its Wii console was about a gimmicky controller, not a stellar library of games

- Its Wii U took the concept of the Wii and flushed it completely down the toilet, and introduced yet another new gimmick. It remains one of its worst selling consoles in the company's history, and who would ever think the GameCube would lose its title.

- The NX is heavily rumored to return to cartridges.

Don't get me wrong, I miss Metroid Prime intensely (screw you, Team Ninja. Screw you!), but the reality is Nintendo's hardware isn't going to sway developers or consumers anymore.

I feel your pain. Nostalgia is a nasty thing, so my advice to you is get through the 5 stages of grief as best you can. Reach out to friends and family.

It's time to accept the fact Nintendo's console market is dead.

Actually, cartridges could give them quite the I/O advantage over disk-based systems if they can get fast enough memory cheap enough. It also adds another layer to keep the casual pirate from stealing their games.

 

[Wickwick]

IF the NX turns out to be awesome then a last-minute unveiling will work really well. That's a big "if." However, it seems Nintendo is betting the company's console efforts on this so that may be their last long play. Their handheld sales have done well forever. There's still hope on that front for them.

 

[foreignreign]

Statistical[/url]":1f9zsdck]

- The NX is heavily rumored to return to cartridges.

What is wrong with cartridges? Flash capacity has risen faster than optical media capacity has and costs are now low enough that it might be viable.

Right? Plus it's a lot faster and less annoying to swap out flash drives than it is disks. Wouldn't have to worry about scratching my dumb disks either since whatever cartridge they make could have a simple physical slide in/out feature to protect the actual connector if they really wanted to.

 

[Zebulon314]

greatn[/url]"m6phhij]I think I've seen more NX speculation articles online then I ever would have if they had actually announced the thing already.

I don't think any of it matters. Consumers don't need 12 months of hype to get ready for a product. It takes significantly less time than that to market something successfully(though the legwork for the marketing has to be done in advance so it can roll out smoothly). They're probably focusing on having a good launch for core Nintendo fans who are going to seek out information on the system regardless with a big marketing push and hopefully good word of mouth and press coverage of the launch pushing into Christmas 2017.

It's not the public I'm worried about, it's the DEVS. They need a LOT of ramp-up time if they're going to release more than shovelware on a brand new console, especially if it's going to be radically different. The lack of leaks or info from THAT front makes me concerned that no one's seen it at all, and that it may be vaporware at this point (wow, two -ware references in one post)

 

[greatn]

ZippyDSMlee[/url]":1iw0ktwh]

Statistical[/url]":1iw0ktwh]

Anyone want to try and figure out how 900p is 4K? It sounds like they are up scaling but I think more its in testing phase and they are not going to fully support 4K tho at this point and time 4K is more likely than DS/3DS/WII support....

What are you talking about?

I read here and there a few months back it was going to be at 1600X900 resolution but Nin was quoted about showing pictures or video in 4k, I am sure it can play movies in 4k but games, I've not seen anything concert.

It's a Nintendo console, so it's very unlikely to play movies at all, though it will probably do Netflix and Hulu if that's what you mean. Nintendo definitely hasn't been quoted on anything in regards to resolution of graphical processing power. If you read something like that it was probably the story author's speculation. The safest bet of what to expect is a console on par with the Xbox One and PS4 in terms of power with some interesting new feature that people will either love or hate, and better networking services than the last time around. And it may use cartridge-type media.

 

[fenris_uy]

sttm[/url]":3nzgovdx]Well to be fair to Nintendo, they aren't even the worse offender at this, that would be Sony who has a console coming this year, that they confirmed, but then do not show it, or make any effort at all to explain what is going on.

Nintendo at least has their lies about copycats going for them.

But to be fair to Sony, the console that they are going to unveil is just a PS4 with better hardware. Not much to show. If you are developing a new revolutionary controller, that's another thing completely.

 

[Teelie]

when the upcoming Wii was still the codenamed "Revolution." Though Nintendo showed the system at E3 those years as a non-functional black box, the company would only make vague handwaving gestures about its "revolutionary" new controller.

I don't know if that was intentional or not but I found it funny.

As to Nintendo and relevancy with this mystery new console, I'm curious about it. Their lies about copycats are absurd because I can't see anyone racing to catch up then beat them to the punch with such a short ramp up time but I do hope they learned their lesson from the Wii U console.

 

[greatn]

Zebulon314[/url]":3ci4c801]

greatn[/url]":3ci4c801]I think I've seen more NX speculation articles online then I ever would have if they had actually announced the thing already.

I don't think any of it matters. Consumers don't need 12 months of hype to get ready for a product. It takes significantly less time than that to market something successfully(though the legwork for the marketing has to be done in advance so it can roll out smoothly). They're probably focusing on having a good launch for core Nintendo fans who are going to seek out information on the system regardless with a big marketing push and hopefully good word of mouth and press coverage of the launch pushing into Christmas 2017.

It's not the public I'm worried about, it's the DEVS. They need a LOT of ramp-up time if they're going to release more than shovelware on a brand new console, especially if it's going to be radically different. The lack of leaks or info from THAT front makes me concerned that no one's seen it at all, and that it may be vaporware at this point (wow, two -ware references in one post)

If Ubisoft and Squenix have seen it, I'm sure others have. Where did the Neo and Scorpio leaks come from? Was it third party developers? Nintendo might just have more ironclad or punitive NDAs.

 

[gpsxsirus]

The way it seems to me is that they do have a unique concept that they're excited about, but they're still trying to perfect the little details. Which if true would mean a sparse game lineup at launch. Then depending on how unique it is we may end up with another situation where developers largely don't know how to execute on it properly.

Nintendo has always been the company that tries new things. They fail often, but when they get it right they really get it right. So I'll remain "wait and see" on this.

Even if the NX is a huge flop, they still have the option to jump into the next generation with a more straight forward console concept and competitive specs. If NX flops and the next system as well, then it might be another story.

 

[billyok]

ArsMoronFilter[/url]":2pij7rzr]It doesn't matter what they show or when, Nintendo is irrelevant and will continue to be until they give up their own hardware and publish on other platforms.

"[X] isn't relevant to me, therefore it's irrelevant to everyone!" — the Internet, 2016, on a day ending in Y.

Speak for yourself. I'm excited to see what weird idea Nintendo has up its sleeve this time. You may not care, but some of us love that there's still a wild card out there keeping console gaming weird and surprising.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

greatn[/url]":2hwdup2x]

ZippyDSMlee[/url]":2hwdup2x]

Statistical[/url]":2hwdup2x]

Anyone want to try and figure out how 900p is 4K? It sounds like they are up scaling but I think more its in testing phase and they are not going to fully support 4K tho at this point and time 4K is more likely than DS/3DS/WII support....

What are you talking about?

I read here and there a few months back it was going to be at 1600X900 resolution but Nin was quoted about showing pictures or video in 4k, I am sure it can play movies in 4k but games, I've not seen anything concert.

It's a Nintendo console, so it's very unlikely to play movies at all, though it will probably do Netflix and Hulu if that's what you mean. Nintendo definitely hasn't been quoted on anything in regards to resolution of graphical processing power. If you read something like that it was probably the story author's speculation. The safest bet of what to expect is a console on par with the Xbox One and PS4 in terms of power with some interesting new feature that people will either love or hate, and better networking services than the last time around. And it may use cartridge-type media.

Pretty much just was wondering if thee was anything really any new hard info. It should be interesting tho frankly if if it dose not have solid out of the box BWC I'll take a pass till its 200$ ><. I am not even bothering with the PS4/Xbone yet.... its not worth it my i7/ 760 is more than enough for alot of games...tho damnit bloodborne.... I so hate exclusivity >< LOL

 

[Snarky Robot]

On cartridge media: I think it's actually a much better idea if you can get cheap storage in bulk. If the "heart" of the NX is some sort of capability to be both handheld and home console, being able to plug the same "cartridge" into both systems would be great. You could easily add a smaller "companion" app to the handheld bit, or, as you get to the New (or NEW new) NX handheld part, be able to play the full game. Something the size of an SD card would work fine and could scale over time. It could help with piracy, as well.

 

[greatn]

ZippyDSMlee[/url]":2fkwsyd4]

greatn[/url]":2fkwsyd4]

ZippyDSMlee[/url]":2fkwsyd4]

Statistical[/url]":2fkwsyd4]

Anyone want to try and figure out how 900p is 4K? It sounds like they are up scaling but I think more its in testing phase and they are not going to fully support 4K tho at this point and time 4K is more likely than DS/3DS/WII support....

What are you talking about?

I read here and there a few months back it was going to be at 1600X900 resolution but Nin was quoted about showing pictures or video in 4k, I am sure it can play movies in 4k but games, I've not seen anything concert.

It's a Nintendo console, so it's very unlikely to play movies at all, though it will probably do Netflix and Hulu if that's what you mean. Nintendo definitely hasn't been quoted on anything in regards to resolution of graphical processing power. If you read something like that it was probably the story author's speculation. The safest bet of what to expect is a console on par with the Xbox One and PS4 in terms of power with some interesting new feature that people will either love or hate, and better networking services than the last time around. And it may use cartridge-type media.

Pretty much just was wondering if thee was anything really any new hard info. It should be interesting tho frankly if if it dose not have solid out of the box BWC I'll take a pass till its 200$ ><. I am not even bothering with the PS4/Xbone yet.... its not worth it my i7/ 760 is more than enough for alot of games...tho damnit bloodborne.... I so hate exclusivity >< LOL

Well on price that may be closer to $200 at launch than you'd expect. Both of Nintendo's last two systems launched at too high a price, which they've admitted was a mistake, and just about the only solid things Nintendo execs have said in Q&A was that they wanted to keep the price down and have an appealing price at launch.

 

[Onyx Spartan II]

There's not any rumors of a successor to the New 3DS (somehow even more stupid as a name than the third Xbox being the Xbox One) yet, right? I just had a terrible impulse buy on a Hyrule edition N3DS even though my Link Between Worlds-themed 3DS is still perfectly fine. Also hoping there'll be a Breath of the Wild-themed NX that I can buy.

Notice a pattern yet?

 

[Wickwick]

Zebulon314[/url]":3riynrxw]

greatn[/url]":3riynrxw]I think I've seen more NX speculation articles online then I ever would have if they had actually announced the thing already.

I don't think any of it matters. Consumers don't need 12 months of hype to get ready for a product. It takes significantly less time than that to market something successfully(though the legwork for the marketing has to be done in advance so it can roll out smoothly). They're probably focusing on having a good launch for core Nintendo fans who are going to seek out information on the system regardless with a big marketing push and hopefully good word of mouth and press coverage of the launch pushing into Christmas 2017.

It's not the public I'm worried about, it's the DEVS. They need a LOT of ramp-up time if they're going to release more than shovelware on a brand new console, especially if it's going to be radically different. The lack of leaks or info from THAT front makes me concerned that no one's seen it at all, and that it may be vaporware at this point (wow, two -ware references in one post)

Nintendo has always written the best games for their consoles in-house though so at least we should have a handful of good games right from the start.

 

[foreignreign]

Operative Me[/url]":19tpeci3]On cartridge media: I think it's actually a much better idea if you can get cheap storage in bulk. If the "heart" of the NX is some sort of capability to be both handheld and home console, being able to plug the same "cartridge" into both systems would be great. You could easily add a smaller "companion" app to the handheld bit, or, as you get to the New (or NEW new) NX handheld part, be able to play the full game. Something the size of an SD card would work fine and could scale over time. It could help with piracy, as well.

I think if they can execute a 2-in-1 handheld/console well, then it might be the homerun they want. Like if you were to design a game for a console and know 100% that all you need to do to port it over to the "handheld" is to do simple engine stuff like lower the resolution, lower texture quality, decrease draw distance, etc, just like going from Ultra High to Low specs on a PC game and then have that run reliably without a hitch?

That would be amazing and would also vastly increase the software library on both the "handheld" and "console" versions of your system.

 

[lunarworks]

billyok[/url]":3e7p8nv9]

ArsMoronFilter[/url]":3e7p8nv9]It doesn't matter what they show or when, Nintendo is irrelevant and will continue to be until they give up their own hardware and publish on other platforms.

"[X] isn't relevant to me, therefore it's irrelevant to everyone!" — the Internet, 2016, on a day ending in Y.

Speak for yourself. I'm excited to see what weird idea Nintendo has up its sleeve this time. You may not care, but some of us love that there's still a wild card out there keeping console gaming weird and surprising.

Nintendo brings out the worst in certain kinds of gamers. They don't seem to grasp the concept that Nintendo intentionally caters to a different market than PlayStation and Xbox.

 

[greatn]

method|one[/url]":3q2bwpsu]I love you Nintendo, but FFS I am so sick of the gimmicks. I thought the Wii U put to rest the notion that people will buy based on gimmickry. Just put your damn games on a system people want to buy. Is that so hard?

What was really gimmicky about the WiiU? It was basically an X-box 360 hardware wise, and the main controller has all the same inputs and plays all the same types of games. That controller had a couple of boondoggles it didn't need at all like a camera and microphone which I would rightfully call gimmicks(though the mic can be used for voice chat in any game that has it), but the gyroscopes were great and helpful in every game that used them, and having a screen meant you could play while your husband watched TV. The problem with the gamepad wasn't that it was a gimmick, the problem was it cost $150 per unit and that the console showed up with 360-like specs in the last year of 360 as a primary platform at launch 360 prices.

 

[salamanderjuice]

Onyx Spartan II[/url]":1cbsfdap]There's not any rumors of a successor to the New 3DS (somehow even more stupid as a name than the third Xbox being the Xbox One) yet, right? I just had a terrible impulse buy on a Hyrule edition N3DS even though my Link Between Worlds-themed 3DS is still perfectly fine. Also hoping there'll be a Breath of the Wild-themed NX that I can buy.

Notice a pattern yet?

No, but there is rumors that NX will be some sort of new handheld/console hybrid so it might completely replace the DS line depending how they do it.

 

[LimpBagel]

I wish they would announce it so we can stop with the stupid rumors or theories in /r/NintendoNX