Shkreli gets court date delayed after firing lawyers

On their way out, former legal team asked for two-week continuance.


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[Fritzr]

An honorable legal firm
Your Honor we have just been fired, so we respectfully request the court grant time for our client to find someone willing to take the case.

 

[Deleted member 441963]

"It's all fictitious," he said. "The government's case is fictitious."

In case you need pyrimethamine: visit Brussel. A 30 pill box will set you back €4,46 ($4,87), not the $22,500 this piss-stain wants for it. You might need to report to a A&E department to get a doctor to write out the prescription, but that's covered by your travel insurance. Even including a business class ticket you'll save 20k$.

No fiction, just reality.

 

[potato44819]

Obligatory popehat links in response to perpwalk photos:

An Open Letter to Reuters Reporters Nate Raymond and David Ingram

Misconduct Is Only News When Journalists Say It Is

 

[Ozymandiaz]

burne_[/url]":2q1bx3xf]

"It's all fictitious," he said. "The government's case is fictitious."

In case you need pyrimethamine: visit Brussel. A 30 pill box will set you back €4,46 ($4,87), not the $22,500 this piss-stain wants for it. You might need to report to a A&E department to get a doctor to write out the prescription, but that's covered by your travel insurance. Even including a business class ticket you'll save 20k$.

No fiction, just reality.

He's not charged with any crime relating to pill pricing, though. So the open question is whether he's being charged for whatever they could come up with against someone nobody likes, or whether it would have happened regardless.

 

[ChrisSD]

Ozymandiaz[/url]":2vwsxvav]

burne_[/url]":2vwsxvav]

"It's all fictitious," he said. "The government's case is fictitious."

In case you need pyrimethamine: visit Brussel. A 30 pill box will set you back €4,46 ($4,87), not the $22,500 this piss-stain wants for it. You might need to report to a A&E department to get a doctor to write out the prescription, but that's covered by your travel insurance. Even including a business class ticket you'll save 20k$.

No fiction, just reality.

He's not charged with any crime relating to pill pricing, though. So the open question is whether he's being charged for whatever they could come up with against someone nobody likes, or whether it would have happened regardless.

It sounds like this is something that's been investigated for a long while. The timing of these charges is coincidental so perhaps some in the industry had gotten fed up with him enough to start being more cooperative with the authorities. Or perhaps the timing really was just a coincidence.

 

[OrangeCream]

Seriously, I expect every company he was involved with to be suing him.

 

[ttschumy]

Fritzr[/url]":2vennrty]An honorable legal firm
Your Honor we have just been fired, so we respectfully request the court grant time for our client to find someone willing to take the case.

Well, they probably want their paycheck for "properly transition[ing] the matter to the new attorneys."

 

[Mannymal]

Most likely they told him something he did not want to hear. Probably that he is gonna do jail time. Now he will find a legal team that will tell him they will get him off the hook. They will take his money, and he will do jail time anyways. The feds do NOT mess around with securities fraud.

 

[LrdDimwit]

Fritzr[/url]":wsamusii]An honorable legal firm
Your Honor we have just been fired, so we respectfully request the court grant time for our client to find someone willing to take the case.

Your reputation: A lifetime to build, moments to destroy.

It's always tempting to take the low road, but it's very damaging to your ability to attract new business. You don't want new clients thinking that you might tank their case if you decide you don't like them.

 

[Hinton]

Mannymal[/url]":1lu11hf7]Most likely they told him something he did not want to hear. Probably that he is gonna do jail time. Now he will find a legal team that will tell him they will get him off the hook. They will take his money, and he will do jail time anyways. The feds do NOT mess around with securities fraud.

Yeah, something like "take the plea bargain".

If he goes with the one that refuses to do that, he might do even more time.

 

[ZhanMing057]

Hinton[/url]":yvh2hra7]

Mannymal[/url]":yvh2hra7]Most likely they told him something he did not want to hear. Probably that he is gonna do jail time. Now he will find a legal team that will tell him they will get him off the hook. They will take his money, and he will do jail time anyways. The feds do NOT mess around with securities fraud.

Yeah, something like "take the plea bargain".

If he goes with the one that refuses to do that, he might do even more time.

"Might" is probably not the right word here. If he's been offered a plea bargain and turns it down, with all the media attention around this case (and the fact that this guy is universally hated), they are absolutely going to the throw the book at him. Not that he deserves to serve a minute less, though.

 

[LrdDimwit]

Ozymandiaz[/url]":wqy0r7qs]He's not charged with any crime relating to pill pricing, though. So the open question is whether he's being charged for whatever they could come up with against someone nobody likes, or whether it would have happened regardless.

Why can't it be both? It's probably a little of column A, and a little of column B.

I guarantee that charges as intricate as that couldn't have been drawn up since the news about Daratrim broke. In the first place, the aggrieved firm filed its complaint to the authorities years ago. And in the second place, it takes too long; the Daratrim thing's too recent.

So they were probably going to arrest him right about now anyway. But why do people care? Why did the DA/police decide to publicly humiliate this guy by "leaking" it to reporters? Why did the reporters gleefully jump on the story?

The answers to those questions are pretty obvious. Everyone hates this guy. His own mother probably isn't proud of what he did. Reporters love "total bastard gets comeuppance" stories, DAs like to make reporters happy, and DAs also like to make defendants' lives as unpleasant as they can.

So he was most likely always going down. But he went down publically because he made himself a public figure.

 

[lXilEl]

Probably fired them because their douchebaggery did not match his.

 

[AlexisR200X]

Ozymandiaz[/url]":24niwy7s]

burne_[/url]":24niwy7s]

"It's all fictitious," he said. "The government's case is fictitious."

In case you need pyrimethamine: visit Brussel. A 30 pill box will set you back €4,46 ($4,87), not the $22,500 this piss-stain wants for it. You might need to report to a A&E department to get a doctor to write out the prescription, but that's covered by your travel insurance. Even including a business class ticket you'll save 20k$.

No fiction, just reality.

He's not charged with any crime relating to pill pricing, though. So the open question is whether he's being charged for whatever they could come up with against someone nobody likes, or whether it would have happened regardless.

In a sense he is, the ponzi like schemes he was running behind the curtains are likely the reason he jacked the pill's price up. (He likely would have needed that money to keep the other stuff from blowing up in his face) I'm just glad it all caught up to him. A repeat stunt of firing his lawyers will do him no favors. Its time to face the music... Preferably the fabled Wu-Tang album's

 

[auhsor]

Modern Major General Thanatos[/url]":74c10a1h]Obligatory popehat links in response to perpwalk photos:

An Open Letter to Reuters Reporters Nate Raymond and David Ingram

Misconduct Is Only News When Journalists Say It Is

The need different images for these stories anyway:

 

[stabs]

I weep for his plight....oh no wait that was just some dust in my eyes. Good riddance. Too bad there is no shortage of lawyers who would take up his case.

 

[TheFLP]

"It's all fictitious," he said. "The government's case is fictitious."

Oh, I can't wait for this.

 

[Ragnarredbeard]

Mannymal[/url]":1rs0xb1q]The feds do NOT mess around with securities fraud.

The irony is that it seems to take quite a while and involve lots of money for the feds to move on fraud, but once you have their attention they will not let you go. Mr Shreli is in a world of hurt.

 

[Hinton]

AlexisR200X[/url]":3g5g6r2c]

Ozymandiaz[/url]":3g5g6r2c]

burne_[/url]":3g5g6r2c]

"It's all fictitious," he said. "The government's case is fictitious."

In case you need pyrimethamine: visit Brussel. A 30 pill box will set you back €4,46 ($4,87), not the $22,500 this piss-stain wants for it. You might need to report to a A&E department to get a doctor to write out the prescription, but that's covered by your travel insurance. Even including a business class ticket you'll save 20k$.

No fiction, just reality.

He's not charged with any crime relating to pill pricing, though. So the open question is whether he's being charged for whatever they could come up with against someone nobody likes, or whether it would have happened regardless.

In a sense he is, the ponzi like schemes he was running behind the curtains are likely the reason he jacked the pill's price up. (He likely would have needed that money to keep the other stuff from blowing up in his face) I'm just glad it all caught up to him. A repeat stunt of firing his lawyers will do him no favors. Its time to face the music... Preferably the fabled Wu-Tang album's

Its fortunate that people with this kind of grandeur personality, never seem to realize when the jig is up, and just leave USA. To like, well, Kazakstan or something.

If you care about your family and friends, that's a big move of course. But maybe he's the type of person who only looks out for #1.

 

[Mitlov]

Fritzr[/url]":246rh9qg]An honorable legal firm
Your Honor we have just been fired, so we respectfully request the court grant time for our client to find someone willing to take the case.

Actually required procedure in many jurisdictions. Under many circumstances, you cannot withdraw from representation if your withdrawal would prejudice the client. Getting a postponement prevents any argument that the client is prejudiced.

 

[tuesdave]

I think we have found Donald Trump's running mate.

 

[rdeforest]

I swear this is relevant:

We as a society need a more constructive approach to mental illness and that approach needs to include cases of extreme narcissism. We need an ethical way of identifying and treating such cases. The greatest difficulty being that narcissists never see why their condition is a problem that the rest of us need fixed. Given our values as democracies we can't make a mental condition illegal (crimethink).

I don't have the solution. I'm throwing this out there in hopes that the idea will propagate out to the right ears and spark something.

 

[graylshaped]

A two-week delay in this case sounds like throwing deck chairs off the Titanic to slow the descent.

 

[talan123]

rdeforest[/url]":6qud9ead]I swear this is relevant:

We as a society need a more constructive approach to mental illness and that approach needs to include cases of extreme narcissism. We need an ethical way of identifying and treating such cases. The greatest difficulty being that narcissists never see why their condition is a problem that the rest of us need fixed. Given our values as democracies we can't make a mental condition illegal (crimethink).

I don't have the solution. I'm throwing this out there in hopes that the idea will propagate out to the right ears and spark something.

I agree with 99.99%

But we have identified him, he doesn't want treatment, and he knows what he did is wrong. I am fully OK with throwing this little ingrate into a federal supermax prison because it's the only place he cannot do any harm. He is literally too inept in dealing with his fellow humans to seen the entire shit storm coming.

 

[Peregrine70]

Hrm.... He needs Lawyers... and we need more Prenda..........

 

[graylshaped]

Peregrine70[/url]":171aji3j]Hrm.... He needs Lawyers... and we need more Prenda..........

Were the Prenda saga to take this twist, it would indeed be jumping the shark.

 

[Stern]

TheFLP[/url]":l0j0ig7c]

"It's all fictitious," he said. "The government's case is fictitious."

Oh, I can't wait for this.

It was all Mark Karpeles' fault.

 

[SixDegrees]

rdeforest[/url]":mtfhoy84]I swear this is relevant:

We as a society need a more constructive approach to mental illness and that approach needs to include cases of extreme narcissism. We need an ethical way of identifying and treating such cases. The greatest difficulty being that narcissists never see why their condition is a problem that the rest of us need fixed. Given our values as democracies we can't make a mental condition illegal (crimethink).

I don't have the solution. I'm throwing this out there in hopes that the idea will propagate out to the right ears and spark something.

When you have 1) a blood test to determine such illness and 2) an actual treatment for it, please get back to us.

Until then, I'm going to assume this guy is just a sociopathic asshole who's chosen to act the way he does, and who will suffer the consequences of those actions.

 

[SixDegrees]

graylshaped[/url]":2wbpxwp7]A two-week delay in this case sounds like throwing deck chairs off the Titanic to slow the descent.

I'm pretty sure he axed his legal team because their summary - "At best, you're going to prison no matter what we do" - didn't appeal to his sense of self-worth.

 

[SixDegrees]

talan123[/url]":3h2sl8e4]

rdeforest[/url]":3h2sl8e4]I swear this is relevant:

We as a society need a more constructive approach to mental illness and that approach needs to include cases of extreme narcissism. We need an ethical way of identifying and treating such cases. The greatest difficulty being that narcissists never see why their condition is a problem that the rest of us need fixed. Given our values as democracies we can't make a mental condition illegal (crimethink).

I don't have the solution. I'm throwing this out there in hopes that the idea will propagate out to the right ears and spark something.

I agree with 99.99%

But we have identified him, he doesn't want treatment, and he knows what he did is wrong. I am fully OK with throwing this little ingrate into a federal supermax prison because it's the only place he cannot do any harm. He is literally too inept in dealing with his fellow humans to seen the entire shit storm coming.

Well, Supermax is very unlikely. Probably some minimum security Federal pen.

Still not at all pleasant, given his former lifestyle.

 

[viscious+ars2]

There is no reason to send the guy to supermax and I wouldn't want my tax dollars paying for it. As far as I know there is no indication that he is violent or a danger to anyone. He's just a giant douche.

Total speculation but his lawyers probably couldnt go along with the defense he wanted them to present due to it likely being a complete and utter lie which they likely knew of. If you want to plead innocence and concot some story, you can't admit the crime to your lawyer. I guarantee his next firm won't feel so ethically bound. And as far as them helping him transition in the most face saving way, they would be practically required to do so if no outright required.

 

[Billy-Wonka]

stabs[/url]":3qz8oxze]Too bad there is no shortage of lawyers who would take up his case.

Why is that 'too bad'? Everyone deserves a fair trial and everyone has the right to an attorney, no matter how big of a douche you are.

 

[MobtownDave]

Billy-Wonka[/url]":fropjxww]

stabs[/url]":fropjxww]Too bad there is no shortage of lawyers who would take up his case.

Why is that 'too bad'? Everyone deserves a fair trial and everyone has the right to an attorney, no matter how big of a douche you are.

Most people, many much more deserving, cant afford to get a fair trial and must settle for an over worked pubic defender who is working 30 other cases a week, while this douche can buy his à la carte.

 

[AlexisR200X]

SixDegrees[/url]":2pdkacrg]

talan123[/url]":2pdkacrg]

rdeforest[/url]":2pdkacrg]I swear this is relevant:

We as a society need a more constructive approach to mental illness and that approach needs to include cases of extreme narcissism. We need an ethical way of identifying and treating such cases. The greatest difficulty being that narcissists never see why their condition is a problem that the rest of us need fixed. Given our values as democracies we can't make a mental condition illegal (crimethink).

I don't have the solution. I'm throwing this out there in hopes that the idea will propagate out to the right ears and spark something.

I agree with 99.99%

But we have identified him, he doesn't want treatment, and he knows what he did is wrong. I am fully OK with throwing this little ingrate into a federal supermax prison because it's the only place he cannot do any harm. He is literally too inept in dealing with his fellow humans to seen the entire shit storm coming.

Well, Supermax is very unlikely. Probably some minimum security Federal pen.

Still not at all pleasant, given his former lifestyle.

Regardless of where he ends up, he is unlikely to do well. Such self important types tend to struggle with adapting to prison life. He'd do well to learn some humility/empathy ASAP. (Even if faked)

He won't be occupying a position of power for a good many years if at all which is likely the worst kind of punishment for his type.

 

[mike3775]

viscious+ars2[/url]":17k2s6ui]There is no reason to send the guy to supermax and I wouldn't want my tax dollars paying for it. As far as I know there is no indication that he is violent or a danger to anyone. He's just a giant douche.

Total speculation but his lawyers probably couldnt go along with the defense he wanted them to present due to it likely being a complete and utter lie which they likely knew of. If you want to plead innocence and concot some story, you can't admit the crime to your lawyer. I guarantee his next firm won't feel so ethically bound. And as far as them helping him transition in the most face saving way, they would be practically required to do so if no outright required.

They do indeed have to help the new counsel, but no law firm will blatantly toss their ethics aside and go along with a bogus story he tells them if they know it's bogus. No law firm wants to have any lawyers disbarred and the firm investigated for an ethics violation.

He will probably cop a plea, get 2-4 years, with some suspended or on house arrest, but I do not expect his next attorneys to throw ethics out the door defending him either. I honestly could see him bouncing law firm to law firm until the judge finally has enough and tells him to pick one and stay with them if he is concocting some bogus story and they know it.

 

[z0phi3l]

SixDegrees[/url]":4mn6c37f]

rdeforest[/url]":4mn6c37f]I swear this is relevant:

We as a society need a more constructive approach to mental illness and that approach needs to include cases of extreme narcissism. We need an ethical way of identifying and treating such cases. The greatest difficulty being that narcissists never see why their condition is a problem that the rest of us need fixed. Given our values as democracies we can't make a mental condition illegal (crimethink).

I don't have the solution. I'm throwing this out there in hopes that the idea will propagate out to the right ears and spark something.

When you have 1) a blood test to determine such illness and 2) an actual treatment for it, please get back to us.

Until then, I'm going to assume this guy is just a sociopathic asshole who's chosen to act the way he does, and who will suffer the consequences of those actions.

Yo dumbass, are there blood tests for psychosis, depression, and all the other mental illnesses we do treat?

Didn't think so, might want to read the comment and not do the typical knee jerk reaction to something you don't understand

 

[SixDegrees]

z0phi3l[/url]":1zran3de]

SixDegrees[/url]":1zran3de]

rdeforest[/url]":1zran3de]I swear this is relevant:

We as a society need a more constructive approach to mental illness and that approach needs to include cases of extreme narcissism. We need an ethical way of identifying and treating such cases. The greatest difficulty being that narcissists never see why their condition is a problem that the rest of us need fixed. Given our values as democracies we can't make a mental condition illegal (crimethink).

I don't have the solution. I'm throwing this out there in hopes that the idea will propagate out to the right ears and spark something.

When you have 1) a blood test to determine such illness and 2) an actual treatment for it, please get back to us.

Until then, I'm going to assume this guy is just a sociopathic asshole who's chosen to act the way he does, and who will suffer the consequences of those actions.

Yo dumbass, are there blood tests for psychosis, depression, and all the other mental illnesses we do treat?

Didn't think so, might want to read the comment and not do the typical knee jerk reaction to something you don't understand

What a hilarious rejoinder, given your post just above.

 

[CraigJ ✅]

Hinton[/url]":3ahqaalx]

Mannymal[/url]":3ahqaalx]Most likely they told him something he did not want to hear. Probably that he is gonna do jail time. Now he will find a legal team that will tell him they will get him off the hook. They will take his money, and he will do jail time anyways. The feds do NOT mess around with securities fraud.

Yeah, something like "take the plea bargain".

If he goes with the one that refuses to do that, he might do even more time.

Here's hoping.

Speaking of searching for corrupt lawyers, 3 weeks to Better Call Saul!