On Jan. 6, there were 211 cases. The outbreak, which began in October, is now at 434.
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SC measles outbreak has gone berserk: 124 cases since Friday, 409 quarantined
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Please, everyone... just remember that RFK Jr doesn't actually think this is a problem. He truly believes that people need to be infected (not vaccine-infected) for the health of the world, It's stupid, yes, but that's what he actually believes. This is all according to their plan, regardless of who dies in the meanwhile.
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Good lord, would I love to hear RFK Jr. verbally respond to your excellent points here. Could you imagine the stammering???
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It's more than pandering. It's tacit acknowledgement that they do not give a fart in a windstorm about "promoting the general welfare" except insofar as "to ourselves and our posterity" means them personally and as narrow a class of people like them as they can possibly define. With "our posterity" totally optional because fuck our kids, amirite? They can figure it out for themselves.
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New Zealand has had them for many years.
But that was about the levels of gun violence in the USA.
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Possibly interesting: I'm 64 now andgot measles before the vaccine(s) existed.
I was lucky and dodged permanent damage.
Recently I asked my doc if getting a measles jab would be a good idea.
He told me my chance of getting measles again is pretty much zero, so didn't recommend the jab.
FYI I live in NL and have good healthcare so the cost of the jab is/was not a factor.
I was lucky and dodged permanent damage.
Recently I asked my doc if getting a measles jab would be a good idea.
He told me my chance of getting measles again is pretty much zero, so didn't recommend the jab.
FYI I live in NL and have good healthcare so the cost of the jab is/was not a factor.
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In Quebec I learned that there was a province-wide genetic shift in 1980, so that people born that year or later need two vaccine doses while those born before 1980 only need one vaccine dose. So I can't get a second dose.
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Well the UK has its own share and history of anti vaxxers. So I think that's the main reason. But the claimed scientific reason was that they were worried that it could lead to more shingles cases in adults. Either among people who got chickenpox but weren't re-exposed from children in middle age, or from people who got the chickenpox vaccine being more prone to developing shingles. I'm not an expert at if that was in any way plausible, but that was a reason given
Regadelss of how realistic that concern was, it doesn't seem to be manifesting, and also we now have a better shingles vaccine than in the 90s so for sure now there is no good reason not to do it.
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The answer to "I don't like getting vaccines" is, "Nobody likes getting vaccines... But they like getting 'X' even less."
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I think that's giving him too much credit. And yes I am aware that I am saying calling him a eugenics advocate is to much credit. But I don't think he is acting in good faith. You are right he doesn't mind who dies, but it's not in service of any perceived good other than his own money and power.
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Hardly. While we do have them, we don't let anti-vaxxers run our health care nor do they have much political traction here. Go to France if you want state level quackery. All NHS provided drugs, procedures, screening, vaccination programs must pass evidence based review by various regulatory bodies staffed by actual field experts not political appointees. But sometimes they can be slow to respond or overcautious since clear evidence isn't there. In this case it originally wasn't clear if chickenpox vaccination would reduce incidence of shingles, do nothing, or make it worse. And since chickenpox is typically a very mild childhood illness (and I say that both as a former immunologist and as someone that was unfortunate enough to get it as an adult and had complications because of it) elimination of chickenpox in children was not deemed sufficient cause to introduce it alone. It was licenced here but you had to get it privately (and thus pay). Now the shingles situation is clearer it has been approved and thus is now automatically administered universally for free.
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It’s probably worth pointing out that medically speaking: “isolation” is NOT synonymous with “quarantine”, even though they are closely related, and for a lay-person (like me) may be confusingly similar. ALSO of important note: those terms don’t clarify whether the status is: voluntary (apparently the norm these days in the USA—sigh) vs. enforced.
Easy to look these definitions up online, but here’s a pretty readable one that I found:
https://publichealthcollaborative.o...-difference-between-quarantine-and-isolation/
Easy to look these definitions up online, but here’s a pretty readable one that I found:
https://publichealthcollaborative.o...-difference-between-quarantine-and-isolation/
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It was offered, but not for free, and at least at first there was concern about the duration of protection (though that might have been a different vaccine to the one that’s used now).
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I won't believe this until he starts a war with NATO. He what ... ????
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Which is insane, because at least in Britian back when measles was endemic they still had mandatory quarantine for those infected or exposed, and strict hygiene rules for any communication with the infected (much more rigorous than for covid). IDK if that was the practice in most of America, but IIRC there’s an outbreak in one of the Laura Ingalls Wilder books where people are quarantined.
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Interestingly: Asking the AI Claude the following "I wonder if it is a factor for possible unreported cases of US measles, from anti-vaxxers who do not wish to give "ammunition" to pro-vaxxers ?" gives a very interesting answer - the reported numbers are higher in Canada, due to a few under-vaccinated Mennonite communities in Alberta and Ontario - but I suspect the actual number in the US is much, much higher than what is being reported.
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I'm not sure it's about looking bad in front of the world -- that would imply some sort of self-awareness among the antivax crowd that what they're doing to their kids could, in theory, be considered a bad thing from a certain point of view. I don't think we have much evidence of that, at least in numbers that would skew the data that much. IMO what they lack in knowledge they more than make up for in confidence.
But there IS a difference in kind between someone who's merely antivax, and someone who's against the entire medical profession. The former will effectively report a case of measles when they seek medical help for what turns out to be a (surprise!) pretty awful disease. The latter, on the other hand, would only seek outside help once the child had died (if then!). Given the same number of actual cases, the numbers reported within the latter group would be far lower.
Presumably, you could meta-explore this possibility by looking at how deadly the various outbreaks are. A higher ratio of fatalities could point to a hidden population of infected individuals who aren't reporting when they're merely sick (if we assume the true fatality ratio is about the same among the outbreaks).
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Cerebral? What Cerebrals? We don't need no dirty foreign commie Cerebrals here! And what's this about parasites? Any Cerebrals got parasites better not show their faces or there's gonna be trouble!
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I honestly think at this point that he has a mental illness that likes the thought of observing the country like his own personal Petri dish.
It makes me wonder if he idolized Josef Mengele.
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Everyone around him in the Trump administration admires the nazis, why not him?
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Have there been signs of people posting their infections as a show of piety yet? Virtue signaling through measles?
If I was a country thinking about bioweapon terrorism, this type of thing would be EXACTLY what I would hope for: a large percentage of the enemy population determined to avoid any scientifically proven methods of stopping me.
If I was a country thinking about bioweapon terrorism, this type of thing would be EXACTLY what I would hope for: a large percentage of the enemy population determined to avoid any scientifically proven methods of stopping me.
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The question is really: Is it the brain worm or RFKJ that is the parasite?
Why not both?
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And Republican House and Senate members who FUCKING KNEW BETTER still enthusiastically voted to approve him. A pox (literally) on every single one of those cowardly, sycophantic, death-worshiping assholes.
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A year before the election he was polling below 2% and had similar name recognition. Most people here don't even know the state assembly person who represents them, never mind the one who represents a different part of the city.
He was a nobody a year ago and his rise has been a masterclass.
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It's the perfect plan. If your kid survives measles, they won't need to be vaccinated for it.1It's the principle of freedom! Plus, ain't my kid sick or dead from measles.
Have I summed up antivaxxer mentality correctly?
If they don't, they won't need to be vaccinated for anything ever again.
1. but they will need to re-vaccinated for everything else.
edit: Maybe we've all had it coming since we started using "sick" to mean trendy and cool.
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It's hard to keep up. The case total was updated to 558 on Friday.
https://dph.sc.gov/news/friday-meas...les-cases-upstate-bringing-outbreak-total-558
Keep up with current status here. The next update is due Tuesday.
and it has spread across the state line into North Carolina.
https://dph.sc.gov/news/friday-meas...les-cases-upstate-bringing-outbreak-total-558
Keep up with current status here. The next update is due Tuesday.
and it has spread across the state line into North Carolina.
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