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Say hi to “Siri AI"—Apple announces new, more “conversational” voice assistant
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"Apple once again stressed that these new Apple Intelligence features were built with “non-negotiable” privacy protections to make sure your Siri AI conversations aren’t available to Apple or anyone else."
Until the TOS/EULA changes at some point and then they are.
Until the TOS/EULA changes at some point and then they are.
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Great, another AI upgrade no one asked for. Maybe now Siri will be able to reliably play songs in the car from Spotify.
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Can we still switch it off in the system preferences? Didn’t see that mentioned anywhere in the article.
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Since no one is picking up pitchforks yet, either a) it's there, or b) there's no information about it
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Apple is probably the only major company I would trust to do this.
And some of these features look actually useful and convenient. Imagine that!!
IIRC the lead guy presenting it previously ran the Vision Pro development. So there might be a chance that it even works.
And some of these features look actually useful and convenient. Imagine that!!
IIRC the lead guy presenting it previously ran the Vision Pro development. So there might be a chance that it even works.
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"Non-negotiable" in the sense that you don't get to negotiate with them and they'll do whatever they want
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I would consider it a victory if Siri would reliably play songs from my local music collection that reside in the music app. There are a few specific songs where Siri refuses to play the local copy, but playing the song from Apple Music works fine, so it is not a transcription error.
My suspicion is that there are bugs in the metadata parts of the database entries that cause this. But fixing that problem requires human intelligence, not AI.
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There are certainly problems, but use cases like schedule on a web page to calendar appointment with seemingly just a click or two is pretty nice (sports game season schedule, film festival schedules or any kind of multi day event like a convention or conference). I also have no problems using AI to decipher something I’m pointing my camera at.
I welcome these kinds of improvements where there is no need for “personal context” aka your PII data.
I welcome these kinds of improvements where there is no need for “personal context” aka your PII data.
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I already have "Apple Intelligence" off on 26.6 Hopefully that toggle's setting ports over.
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While Proton's Lumo is more privacy focused it sorely lacks Frontier model capability. Let's see how Gemini performs in Apple's Private Cloud Compute environment.
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Yeah me too, but with the LLM being so foundational to new Siri, I wonder what’s left when you turn it off.
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The bigger part of that report, I thought, was that Apple couldn’t get full Gemini to run on their own Apple Silicon servers, so might have to run on Google’s servers, which would be another layer of the privacy onion. Was there any info on that aspect of the “private cloud compute”?
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Wow, terrible timing.
The AI industry is just now figuring out how much everyone hates AI and Apple is leaning in.
It has its uses, but the hype train and the destruction of our environment it leaves behind just aren't worth it.
The AI industry is just now figuring out how much everyone hates AI and Apple is leaning in.
It has its uses, but the hype train and the destruction of our environment it leaves behind just aren't worth it.
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given the length of development cycles, they've probably been working on this for many months and weren't about to abandon it just to make us happy.
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I love the fact that even though I meticulously put the album version of "Miss Sun" by Boz Scaggs in a custom playlist, I never know if I am going to get that one or one of three other live versions. I mean, I picked the album version on purpose, but okay, play the versions I don't want to hear.
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Generally appeasing the “shareholders” and the pundits. As to the users, as long as Siri works then I don’t care what’s in the box. It could Schrodinger’s cat for all I care.
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I mean, I do want Siri to work better, but I'm not sure that adding Gemini is the answer. Siri is a fairly painful experience at this point, although I do love it for simple tasks while I'm driving like "hotspot on" for the kids. But I don't really want Siri to do things that are more complex. I just want the easy stuff to be more reliable and do more easy stuff without telling me "I can't do that". They keep showcasing complicated stuff it could do that I don't even want it to do. Please don't suggest to me that you could look up a recipe or contact someone for me when I didn't ask for that! Sigh.
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Listen, I also have some strong opinions about LLMs and data privacy, but as far as their privacy claims are concerned, they actually did commit to opening Private Cloud Compute up to auditing. they even said so again in the keynote today. Obviously, that doesn't mean it's flawless, but they are at least trying to solve the hard technical problems around this.
[Yes, there are rumors that the previously descrinbed PCC hardware might struggle with the Gemini-derived models used in the new Siri, but they reiterated their commitment to auditability so I imagine they're figuring it out]
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Plenty of people have been asking where the new Siri is for the last two years. You are not everyone.
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All I need Siri to do is "set timer 30 minutes", "set alarm 6:30", "dr's appointment, 6/7, 2:30pm", "text daughter". I don't need or want it to help curate my quest for knowledge. YMMV.
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Yeah, the word "conversation(al)" appears nine times in TFA. I do not want to have a "conversation" with any of my digital devices. I am never interested in doing that. The way this works is: I issue a device a command (by button or by voice, I mostly don't care) and then the device executes it. That's the nature of this relationship.
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God, that's the worst thing about Google's Gemini on Android phones. It's overly verbose and "conversational". It's infuriating and never shuts up. And of course it's mandatory! Bring back the assistant!
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Make speech to text reliable and trainable. I'm tired of typing on the phone when no one is around and I am free to do so but the translation is so poor that it is often faster to type. And let me train the predictive spelling.
Loquacious Siri, do not want.
Loquacious Siri, do not want.
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Will they finally restore a feature they took out of Siri a couple of years ago: hey Siri, add milk to the note grocery list. That used to work great, especially when you’re in the kitchen, your hands are dirty, and you need to put something on the grocery list it’s shared with your spouse, and then suddenly they pulled that ability for some strange reason. If it lacks that feature, then I don’t care about the rest.
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No one asked for it... except you, asking for Siri to work properly. lol what?
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