Samsung Galaxy Note II confirmed, but not for the US
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that's a really really really long phone
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Since it's missing in the article: it's actually thinner, less wide, and taller than the Galaxy Note.
Note 1: 83 x 146.9 x 9.7 mm, 178 g
Note 2: 80.5 x 151.1 x 9.4 mm, 180 g
I'll pass. I don't think the screen size difference will be noticeable, and would prefer to keep the 102,400 pixels that the Note 2 loses. Maybe that 2.4 mm width change will allow it to fit in all my side-of-leg pockets, though, which my Note doesn't do...
Note 1: 83 x 146.9 x 9.7 mm, 178 g
Note 2: 80.5 x 151.1 x 9.4 mm, 180 g
I'll pass. I don't think the screen size difference will be noticeable, and would prefer to keep the 102,400 pixels that the Note 2 loses. Maybe that 2.4 mm width change will allow it to fit in all my side-of-leg pockets, though, which my Note doesn't do...
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Overall this is a 'meh' for a phone that I was previously really excited about.
On the plus side:
- very nice battery @ 3,100 Mah
- quad core processor is a plus
- kudos for shipping with Jellybean
- that grey version looks sharp
On the minus side:
- resolution going down even though th screen size went up
- US version might miss out on the quad-core love again
- still a pentile display
- touch wiz
There are rumors HTC is coming out with a 5" 1920x1080 phone. That could be a lot more appealing if the processor and battery are up to snuff. Ill also keep my eyes open for the iPhone 5 release now.
Samsung could have had a home run with a 1080p display, a slightly larger battery, guaranteed quad-core for the US, and going to SAMOLED+ or IPS for the screen. Oh well, now the competition gets a turn to make the perfect phone.
Edit: DYAC
On the plus side:
- very nice battery @ 3,100 Mah
- quad core processor is a plus
- kudos for shipping with Jellybean
- that grey version looks sharp
On the minus side:
- resolution going down even though th screen size went up
- US version might miss out on the quad-core love again
- still a pentile display
- touch wiz
There are rumors HTC is coming out with a 5" 1920x1080 phone. That could be a lot more appealing if the processor and battery are up to snuff. Ill also keep my eyes open for the iPhone 5 release now.
Samsung could have had a home run with a 1080p display, a slightly larger battery, guaranteed quad-core for the US, and going to SAMOLED+ or IPS for the screen. Oh well, now the competition gets a turn to make the perfect phone.
Edit: DYAC
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Oh yeah, thanks NulloModo, that was the other reason I'll keep my Note over the Note 2. PenTile just gets worse the bigger it gets (without resolution increase). So I'm guessing the Note 2 has a significantly more obvious PenTile squiggles. Even 1280x800 SAMOLED+ would have been a welcome improvement.
I'm not surprised they didn't increase the resolution, when they missed that on the 10.1" Note as well. Samsung is obviously playing the DPI game a little too slowly.
I'm not surprised they didn't increase the resolution, when they missed that on the 10.1" Note as well. Samsung is obviously playing the DPI game a little too slowly.
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Hmm. This thing, a second SIM with the same number to put in the e-ink Motorola F3 that is gathering dust on a shelf here and that I could use then to actually make phone calls with and to take with me when I need nothing but a phone in my pocket... might make a great team.
By the way, I think Samsung has done something entirely original with the deeply rounded corners here and especially in the S3. I didn't like the look at all at first sight (and I still think it looks somewhat ugly), but it certainly helps a lot to make the thing less of a nuisance in tight pockets.
By the way, I think Samsung has done something entirely original with the deeply rounded corners here and especially in the S3. I didn't like the look at all at first sight (and I still think it looks somewhat ugly), but it certainly helps a lot to make the thing less of a nuisance in tight pockets.
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A larger phone with a lower resolution and STILL pentile? Well, at least that makes it easy for me to keep my Note.
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Even corrected, that's still a big phone. No surprise there, but I'm pretty sure my old Motorola brick back in the day wasn't this wide.
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Again Samsung going for lower spec displays? Again I don't get it, that area is totally one of their strong suits.
Maybe trying for extraordinary battery life?
Maybe trying for extraordinary battery life?
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Ew, so they went with the Galaxy SIII design. Makes sense, I guess... unfortunately I hate gloss and brushed-metal.
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I'm sure there is market for quasi-tablet phones, as shown by the SIII success but I just can't picture myself holding one these things next to my ear without feeling silly.
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9.4 mm? It sure *looks* thinner.
I can't decide if the reflection is rendered deceptively close to the tapered edge of if the massive size just makes it look *relatively* thin.
I can't decide if the reflection is rendered deceptively close to the tapered edge of if the massive size just makes it look *relatively* thin.
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This looks very nice... butI am sort of allergic to OLEDs after almost a year of using a galaxy S2. Pentile makes it worse, ofcourse.
But the colour accuracy and contrast issues in even Samsung's best Super AMOLED Plus (no pentile), and noticeable burn-in (CRT style) after less than a year mean I am permanently OFF OLEDs.
And the thing has trouble rendering a decent white. And I adjusted ir for white and set it to "Movie Mode" and everything when I got it... but now besides the notceable burn-in patterns I can also see a subtle degradation of white levels again. Also... Movie Mode improved but did not fix the colour and quantization issues. Even third party apps like Screen Adjustor can't fix it.
I think the HTC One X screen and the iPad-3 screen are my ideal.
OLED was overhyped and just not ready.
But the colour accuracy and contrast issues in even Samsung's best Super AMOLED Plus (no pentile), and noticeable burn-in (CRT style) after less than a year mean I am permanently OFF OLEDs.
And the thing has trouble rendering a decent white. And I adjusted ir for white and set it to "Movie Mode" and everything when I got it... but now besides the notceable burn-in patterns I can also see a subtle degradation of white levels again. Also... Movie Mode improved but did not fix the colour and quantization issues. Even third party apps like Screen Adjustor can't fix it.
I think the HTC One X screen and the iPad-3 screen are my ideal.
OLED was overhyped and just not ready.
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Is it officially "Bad Editing Day" at ARS or something ?
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Hopefully Samsung will keep the quality level up. The first version of this was rather nice and I'm liking the info on the upcoming tablet version.
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Hopefully Samsung will keep the quality level up. The first version of this was rather nice and I'm liking the info on the upcoming tablet version.
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gr3yh47":2wk6ji6v said:Akemi":2wk6ji6v said:
epic 19:1 aspect ratio
You can use it to break into cars instead of using that thin crowbar thing.
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This kind of thing is the most damning evidence against Samsung aping apple.
Unfortunately unlike the sgs3 relative to its predecessor, and this is arguably a downgrade from the original note.
It really really didn't take long for Samsung's success to make them lazy, and that lack of a tendency to laziness is Apple's real strength.
BTW, I'm not an apple fan, but just a disappointed consumer.
Unfortunately unlike the sgs3 relative to its predecessor, and this is arguably a downgrade from the original note.
It really really didn't take long for Samsung's success to make them lazy, and that lack of a tendency to laziness is Apple's real strength.
BTW, I'm not an apple fan, but just a disappointed consumer.
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Just realized the screen res has gone down from 1280x800 to 1280x720. Goddammit.
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tuxRoller":284jbets said:
How did you arrive at that conclusion? It has entirely different dimension and use case than iPhone.
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'Evidence against aping' means that this is proof they didn't copy. I think you both agree on that.UltimateLemon":17qorcd8 said:
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oblib__":2tuhos6x said:
Must have misread it. The context of the entire post just sounded like the tuxRoller was thinking Note was a copy of something from Apple.
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The screen resolution drop is annoying, but otherwise very nice. But Samsung aren't saying if they'll even release it in Australia.
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iamaelephant":3kiq8sol said:
Ars is US based and is therefore going to be US centric. International events that could have repercussions in the US or that provide insight into matters concerning the US obviously also get coverage. If you're looking for detailed coverage of device availability in another country your best bet would be to check a site based on and dedicated to covering technology issues in that country.
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UltimateLemon":3putsxb3 said:
Ah, I wasn't clear, I suppose. By aping I meant that Apple decided to take the year off by releasing the marginally different (according to fans, and though I think adding another core and a much faster gpu is an nice upgrade) devices from the previous year and Samsung seemed to follow suit.
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oblib__":2ka3re8e said:
No, you're both right
My sentence was worded ambiguously. I also wasn't being completely serious. Apple fans seemed to think the previous iphone should've been a more serious update. Similarly Samsung did, and imho, a rather half hearted update of its line this year. The note is an especially good, or rather bad, example of this.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but most phones seem to be switching to a 16:9 aspect ratio. First the Note II, then the rumored display of the iPhone 5.
Any specific reason behind this sudden change?
Any specific reason behind this sudden change?
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SoC? Please explain your acronyms, Ars - even regular readers don't know all of the ones you seem to toss out.
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It's a pretty standard acronym in the phone world (about as common as CPU for processor). Next time it'll be faster to highlight SoC, do 'google search' on it, and the answer is in the third result: System on a Chip. Since the term is probably no more helpful than the acronym, you could then click on the wiki article and read all about it.Postulator":3vywp84l said:
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sn0v":zgj6qo6i said:
Maybe they think it feels better in hand? I have no idea.
Personally, it's not a change I like.
I don't really want a tablet that's 16:9 either.
I damn sure don't want a monitor that's 16:9!
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Was debating whether to go for S3 or wait for Note 2. Glad I went with S3 as it is good enough and large enough for serious work (reading few hundred page PDFs). Samsung has lately become my preferred brand. Although I like the real estate, Note 2 would have been a bit awkward as a phone.
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oblib__":3cgsep6p said:
I'm aware of the concept of System on a Chip, but wasn't aware of the acronym. I am also aware that any decent education teaches you to spell it out in full the first time you use it - even when only your professor is going to be reading your paper. Not doing so is just lazy.
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