I don't know much about Indian politics, I have lot of Indian colleagues and I suppose I could ask them. But even if it turned out that India is not as democratic as I'd like, I still would want this mission to succeed. Heck, I don't even wish for the failure of Chinese space missions.I'm not sure I'd like to hand a propaganda victory to a nationalist despot.
Not turned to plasma. That would be the case from TLI entry I suspect. In LLO, you're only getting the other outcomes.Pulverized, sure, but atomized, vaporized, turned to plasma? … Impact velocity is only going to be ~2km/s.
If we're lucky, putin will pull an other hitler in his bunker.I'm sure Russia will blame Ukranian "terrorism" for their failure, despite the fact that they are Hitlering their way through eastern Europe to conquer land masses.
They can't produce their own weaponry and must buy it from humanitarian countries like North Korea, and can't build UAVs so must get those from peace loving countries like Iran... and they can't seem to avoid crashing into things, like the Crimea bridge, Kyev, and now The Moon.
There is no monopoly on common sense, on either side of the political fence -- Sting.
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P.S. Puck Futin.
Its real mission was lithodiving to find the elusive moonshark, ally to the West, but regolith proved wildly uncooperative with the Party.If they have any sense, they'll blame the failure on moon sharks.
It is on the Moon, in pieces.Putin 2022: "But they told me, three days and our army is in Kiev..."
Putin 2023: "But they told me, three days and our spacecraft is at the Moon..."
That figure for heat of fusion is too low by more than a factor of 1000.2 km/s is 2 MJ/kg kinetic energy. The heat of fusion of aluminum is only 321 J/kg and the latent heat of vaporization is 0.7 MJ/kg.
I'm stealing this to reply to another idiotic comment like that on the Washington post.Tell you what, when they stop genociding Ukraine, I'll consider being less gleeful in their failures.
Yeah we have Russian wives and mothers, cry about not the loss of their men, but not getting enough $$$ as compensation.For all those brilliant minds admonishing folks for rooting against the success of Roscosmos, perhaps it’s worth remembering that they are not merely from the same country as those committing genocide in Ukraine, they are actively supporting that genocide. Anyone having an emotional meltdown over me rooting against those who support genocide is free to feel morally superior because they supported a PR whitewashing “mission” just because it happened in space. They can tell themselves it’s about pure science and supporting space exploration, and that who is doing the exploration is less relevant than the mission.
Me? Gee fucking whiz, I think the genocidal aspirations of Roscosmos makes it okay for me to root against their missions .
The upward flow is hardly a trickle.As much as I never thought I'd say this, but to be fair to Russia...
That's hardly a problem unique to Russia, the west is replete with super-rich assholes who hoard all the money like Musk and Bezos and the like.
Trickle-down economics might be bullshit, but trickle-up? That's definitely a thing.
When you give half your country's GDP to like a dozen oligarchs it might make it difficult to function as a nation? Who'd have thought.
Degradation of checks and balances against increasing wealth and power for a decreasing few will have a similar result under any system. There is a good argument that these checks and balances can be better protected in a democracy if the people remain well informed enough not to be manipulated, and retain real power to make changes.A growing number of people will suggest that would be the end result of late stage capitalism as well.
That isn't right. It was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of which the Russian RSFSR and Ukrainian SSR were part. Ukraine was actually a founding member of the UN, and so had a seat in its own right, unlike Russia. They weren't independent, but it is fundamental to understanding how and why the USSR broke up as it did, and why Ukraine is able to claim a continuing identity quite apart from Russia.Don't get me f---ing started on this! Pre 1991 - Soviet Union. After 1991 - Russia. There was no "Russia" back then as an international entity, ditto Ukraine.
Not really. I mean, yes sort of, but with the right atmospheric conditions, you can bounce VHF off the moon to communicate with the other side of the Earth using HAM legal equipment and power levels. You don't need the DSN to talk to the moon, even with relatively low fain antennas on whatever is on or around the moon. Of course the lower the gain on the lunar end, the higher the gain needed on Earth.In low Earth orbit. That's easy. When my lab had some communications problems with a CubeSat, we actually got some help from a ham radio hobbyist who lived farther from ground-based interference than the antenna on our building's roof. But even the Moon is much farther away and communications require things like big, directional antennas. Which are, for all practical purposes, at least, mid-range radio telescopes.
I read too many books and watch far too many YouTube war documentaries so I know you meant trillion, not billion.Speaking of, the budget in Russia was recently modified so that military spending is now one third of the federal budget.
In contrast, the US military spending, by far the greatest in the world, is about 3% of the budget.
So the county is selling its entire future on this gamble, which has no chance of paying off. The minerals and grain in perpetuity are worth less than they’ve dumped into this.
For further contrast, the US’s ten years in Vietnam cost about 1 billion in total, inflation adjusted, or about 1/23rd GDP or about 2.5% on a yearly basis. That war caused the fall of the gold standard and rampant inflation and the resulting high interest rates of the 1980s that nearly cost our family our house.
So yeah, they can’t afford this but they’re in full HODL mode like a guy with two bored apes.
Geyser economics?The upward flow is hardly a trickle.
Besides, who wants novichok all over their balls?Personally, I wouldn't let Putin anywhere near my balls. I don't have that much respect for him.
Republicans are anti-climatic.Just losing comms with it still being in the pre‑landing orbit would be kinda anti‑climatic!
You shuold have seen all the ohter tyops and erorrs I freqeuntly make in my posts. Let's just say I have aRepublicans are anti-climatic.
The scenario you describe would be anti-climactic.
yes. and we see it happening right here in the us too…When you give half your country's GDP to like a dozen oligarchs it might make it difficult to function as a nation? Who'd have thought.