Russia seems to have lost contact with its first lunar probe in half a century
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Exactly. Russia is not the same country despite having the same capital city. Not surprising didn’t know Ukraine was the brains of the Soviet space program.
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Russia proving they are not even at the 80s level of tech anymore. Get rekt orcs.
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You'd think that some of those Oligarchs might want to build hotels on the moon with their piles of hard earned cash.
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For land based, they have a 70 meter antenna in Crimea, and two sites in Russia. I think the old Pluton Array (also in Crimea) they used for Venera is non-functional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Deep_Space_Network#cite_note-Tashkent_Times-1
They worked around coverage gaps while flying Venera to Venus, so this is a problem they have had experience solving. And by that I mean, they'd call Jodrell Bank . Can't do that anymore.
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I upvoted you because your sentiment is humane, and I wish that it were true. But I don't think it's as benign as you and I wish. Even in the United States, some 40% of the population appears to have fascist tendencies. I cannot hold those people blameless, because they cannot fall back on the "don't know any better" excuse. They are fascist because they want to be, because that's the moral character they have chosen, whether through family tradition or moral laziness matters little. In Russia, it's often said that the state controls the media and the Russian people simply lack access to factual information. The War in Ukraine has shown that to be false. There are plenty of opportunities to get at the truth, if the people want to know it. Turns out most of them don't. They blindly accept what the government tells them not because they are prevented from knowing the truth, but because they are too morally and intellectually lazy to want to know the truth. That would take more effort.
Laziness is human nature, of course, so do we refrain from holding people accountable for their choices if those choices are based on moral or intellectual laziness? No, those choices should and will come back to bite them. That should also be true for each of us, whatever the nationality. In the final analysis, Russians are just as responsible as Americans for the leadership they accept and the national decisions they acquiesce to. Their country was not taken from them by force, they sold it cheaply. Taking it back now is more difficult, but it's not impossible. If they accept it as it is, then they deserve the consequences of that choice.
No, Russian children do not deserve to suffer, but then again, nobody is bombing their schools, museums, hospitals, theaters and homes, nor is anyone threatening to do so. Ukranian children aren't so lucky.
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Hey Vlad, we're not as stupid as you think. If you read the comments enough to know that "many Arsians seem rather happy with the misfortunes of this spacecraft," then you should have read the numerous succinct and well-expressed reasons for that sentiment, and you wouldn't have to ask why.
Nor is there a need to make shit up to justify your own hypocrisy.
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the economy of Soviet Union was already shit for quite some time, and some have argued that it is the forceful investments into the military and space race, at the expense of the citizens consumption and other productive activities (e.g. producing cars, educating people better, etc.), which led to the USSR collapse. So it is rather the collapse of the Russian economy which led to the USSR entering a tailspin than the other way around, and unreasonably high level of space investments was one of the key accelerator to that tailspin.
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Launched by Ukraine, oh noes!
This is the equivalent of 'mah dog ate mah homework'.
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Apple fanboy 101
Ars Tribunus Militum
Like in Foundation, when a nation isn’t able to do now what it could do fifty years ago, it’s a sign of decadence.
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No. Both this and Chandrayaan-3 are targeting ~70°S. They’re far further south than any previous mission, but they’re nowhere near the South Pole, nor are they targeting permanently shadowed craters.
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Fair enough— edited. It’s what happens when you post while tired and angry. Every day, wondering if your friends are still alive.
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The ones that are being marched around their playgrounds in military drills, and taught in school how to field strip an AK-74. Eventually the brainwashing takes hold and it’s too late. The Hitler Youth may have been victims themselves, but they’re still the Hitler Youth.
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If you read the histories of the Rus and where the Tsars originated, then you'll see that Ukraine has always been the brains of the Russian Empire and Soviet Union. That's where the Make Russia Muscovy Again meme comes from.
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Luna 25 successfully makes a landing* on the moon a day ahead of the schedule in the 5-year plan!
Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft crashes into moon (BBC News)
*landing performed using a lithobraking maneuver
Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft crashes into moon (BBC News)
*landing performed using a lithobraking maneuver
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Hahaha.
Success would have been used for Russian prestige, and Russian prestige is weaponised for the conquest and genocide of Ukraine.
So for now, every time that Russia fails like this, I will smile.
Success would have been used for Russian prestige, and Russian prestige is weaponised for the conquest and genocide of Ukraine.
So for now, every time that Russia fails like this, I will smile.
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Was about to post that link, but thought I’d better check to see if I’d be ninja’d before posting
Taking geopolitics out of it, I like to see the human race make advancements - hopefully the Indian lander will make a successful landing.
For the Russian government, this failure could be a little bit embarrassing…
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It seems that Luna 25 has successfully intercepted the Moon. The skies over Russia are safe once again!
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If they just made a copy of Luna-24, these may actually be tubes… but as luck has it, Russia remained one of the few (if not only) country that still manufactures these (e.g., Svetlana plant).
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Russia can go and f itself but it still saddens me of what have become of once great, world leading space organisation.
Space is hard, issues will happen no matter what is the organisation culture, the level of dedication, the education and talent of people involved, and how much money/time is available.
But russian space program is running on fumes, on very old talent from soviet union, who do their best based on decades long procedures, equipment. But they retire, equipment breaks down...
And russia spends money on houses in Italy, sports clubs in England, giant yachts in Greece.
They could be so much more... they wasted all that was left to them.
Space is hard, issues will happen no matter what is the organisation culture, the level of dedication, the education and talent of people involved, and how much money/time is available.
But russian space program is running on fumes, on very old talent from soviet union, who do their best based on decades long procedures, equipment. But they retire, equipment breaks down...
And russia spends money on houses in Italy, sports clubs in England, giant yachts in Greece.
They could be so much more... they wasted all that was left to them.
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BBC News is reporting that the spacecraft has crashed into the surface of the moon
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66562629
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66562629
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Radio news just said it span out of control and crashed into the moon.
I guess when they don't have a Ukrainian maternity ward to aim at their targeting sucks.
I guess when they don't have a Ukrainian maternity ward to aim at their targeting sucks.
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