Russia seems to have lost contact with its first lunar probe in half a century
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Even two years ago, NASA would likely have been working feverishly to help them reestablish contact. Sad that the Russian government put us in a place where even basic space cooperation is hard again.
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I have never said this before about the failure of any nation's scientific endeavors, but...
good.
Until Putin is dead and Russia can act like a responsible global citizen, I hope everything they try to do crashes and burns.
good.
Until Putin is dead and Russia can act like a responsible global citizen, I hope everything they try to do crashes and burns.
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Before 2022, I'd be sad. Now schadenfreude kicks in. The fewer successes Russia can show off (especially to their own citizens), the better.
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When you give half your country's GDP to like a dozen oligarchs it might make it difficult to function as a nation? Who'd have thought.
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Not wanting to jinx it by saying it loud, but I am still hoping for a nice and very energetic lithobraking manoeuvre from Luna 25. Just losing comms with it still being in the pre‑landing orbit would be kinda anti‑climatic!
That would serve them right, IMO. Although I am pretty sure TASS would still try to twist a high‑speed lithobraking crash event into a "very successful landing" somehow...
That would serve them right, IMO. Although I am pretty sure TASS would still try to twist a high‑speed lithobraking crash event into a "very successful landing" somehow...
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I'm a bit torn, I think the efforts around moon exploration is great, I would just as prefer to not have Russia be able use it for propaganda. Consequently, I'm fine with this turn of events
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Russia's first Lunar mission.
Calling the previous Soviet missions "Russian" is rather inaccurate, especially considering that most of the key people in the Soviet space program were Ukrainian.
Calling the previous Soviet missions "Russian" is rather inaccurate, especially considering that most of the key people in the Soviet space program were Ukrainian.
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Absolutely agreed. Russia is an ultranationalist state that has descended into fascism under Putin's rule. If a successful Luna 25 mission would provide fuel to Russia's nationalist forces and delay the ideological reckoning that must eventually appear (if Russia is to stop having imperialist and irredentist ambitions), then the mission must fail.
Too often people make the mistake of believing that science is always pure and faultless, when it can be intimately connected to the social and political goals of a sponsor country. That is the case here.
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They want to land their hardware on the Moon and claim it’s theirs, just like they’ve done with the Arctic seabed.
Apparently having the biggest country by land mass IS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH for that greedy, old, bald and botoxed stooge.
Apparently having the biggest country by land mass IS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH for that greedy, old, bald and botoxed stooge.
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Maybe it drilled a hole in itself. Incidentally, the picture of the lander at the top seems like it could be a space blanket thrown over a pile of trash.
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That seems very misleading. The moon is visible over Russia 12 hours per day, just like everywhere else in the world. Russia's lack of access to the US's Deep Space Network means they don't have 24 hour a day visibility, but I wouldn't call 12 hours a day "relatively few". Tilley's post was clear but the characterization of it in the article is misleading.
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Given that the primary purpose of this mission is political in nature and not really scientific, I won't shed a tear for this mission's demise. And I'm saying this as a rabid space geek who grew up watching every shuttle mission and dreaming of space since I was a wee lad.
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Given the longitudinal extent of Russia's territory, it should be closer to 18 hours a day. Their lack of tracking ability is no one else's fault but their own.
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Has an appropriate scapegoat been selected and disseminated to keep everyone's story straight?
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This and this again!
Russia singlehandedly and quite neo‑colonialy appropriating all of the Soviet achievements that came out of CCCP's constituent nations is just so on par with their current propaganda.
Probably the best to call them "Muscovy", that's about right. High hopes here all their colonies break free soon, they surely deserve the last decolonisation that there is.
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Nope, they are still choosing the appropriate basement window for the inevitable fall from grace.
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Yes, I think they are positioning him by the window as we speak.
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I don't know the exact IAU rules on naming topographic features on moons and planets, but if it ever crashes, can we please name the resulting small crater Zmiinyi? I'd definitely vote for that!
"Putin Khuilo crater" would work as well, but I think there might be some IAU rule about very offensive swearwords (i.e. "Putin")...
"Putin Khuilo crater" would work as well, but I think there might be some IAU rule about very offensive swearwords (i.e. "Putin")...
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Barring a previously unknown singularity and strange cosmic cloud appearing in lunar orbit to steal and rebuild Luna-Glob into L'Glob and send it back to us, I think it's safe to say that no, Luna-Glob is not alive. Whether it is still in space and operational, however...
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Well, seeing how the war has gone for Russia, there might be some evidence for a military Jinxing department...It seems obvious that luck (if luck even exists...there's no proof it does...reality may very well be a chain of totally random events) can't be manipulated - otherwise there would be how-to's on YouTube and everyone who watched them would be able to win the lottery, get the girl ánd live happily ever after, just to name some stuff.
Same for negatively manipulating luck known in the US as "jinxing" ..if that was a real thing for example many if not all institutions would employ battalions of jinxers to mess with perceived enemies' luck etc.
Still, in spite of what logic and experience dictate these superstitions remain véry popular.
Interesting creatures, humans.
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Yeah, that propaganda would be on par, as the documentaries I have seen only show German Nazis on the moon.
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Space ships get lost all the time (at least they used to...). They lost a whole damn launch center earlier this year for failing to pay rent...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baikonur_Cosmodrome#Post-Soviet_era Last paragraph of the anchored section
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Per usual that is what the management consultation will focus upon.
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