Bla bla bla. The public interest just happened.That's a legit use of getting a warrant to evidence for resolving a henious crime, and is definitely in the public interest.
I'm happy to sever more and more ties with those backing MAGA as each day passes.You can't make this government look bad enough to flip enough support to curtail their behavior. They aren't a political movement, they're a religion. A fuck load of the ardent supporters completely severed ties with their entire families to back MAGA.
I am all for protests in these times, but peaceful protests are the way
"And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusetts: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen yard in order. I hope in god this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted." - Thomas Jefferson
Have you spoken with the reporter shot with a riot control gun while he was doing his job, too?show me a single video of the national guard doing something different then what my comment says they are currently doing...
The patriotic act is resistance to tyranny.Hard to be a patriot when your military arm is dispatched to intimidate or prevent unarmed civilians exercising their constitutional rights to peaceful protest.
It. is. not. right.
Edit: spelling
Correct. While I think militia might be an inaccurate description, the Black Panthers were focused on self defense, self determination, and community uplift. They ensured the police thought twice about brutalizing black citizens (so much so that the laws were suddenly changed with the intent of disarming them: Mulford Act signed by Reagan) and provided resources (including, but not limited to, free breakfast and lunch programs for kids) to those in the community less fortunate. All of that gets swept under the rug in our schools though, with the message simply being they were "bad" terrorists like X and not like the "good" blacks who followed MLK.They started as a militia designed to follow police in their communities to bear witness and intimidate them with the threat of violence (open carry) should they think of abusing people. Then they moved on to mutual aid.
So you consider the accused to be guilty automatically — no trial. You are, as is the usual case, on the wrong side of history.Again, I have zero sympathy for the freaks that got nabbed. Its one thing to be accused, another to be long wanted repeat disgusting offenders or cartel launderers...
The problem with using violence is that that's a playing field where the government is even harder to beat. Especially with a senile lunatic like trump ignoring all the laws that are supposed to bind the power of the government.Some people say "Violence is never an option" but the wording of the sentiment fundamentally misstates the relationship between violence and peace.
Peaceful options will nearly always be better than violence, and everyone involved would much rather prefer peace. But the options of peace can be sabotaged, ignored, and functionally taken away from those dissatisfied with the world. The cold truth of the matter is that violence is always an option, and the best way to prevent violence is not to crush it, not to send in the national guard, but to give peace a fighting chance.
We had widescale peaceful protests of these issues, and we have seen people fighting as diligently as they can along peaceful channels. It is foolish to assume that people see these peaceful methods as their last resort when faced with existential crises.
TOONCIS LOOK OUT!Marines signed up to be the first in or the last out, the sharp end of the spear. Using marines for crowd control is like driving a Ferrari to the store to get groceries.
Actually no, it's like telling your cat to drive to the store to get groceries.
Do you know what the Black Panthers actually stood for or what they actually did in/for the community? Hint: it wasn't burning down buildings or "killing pigs" like our shitty white American sanitized education system would have you believe.
Her, although there could be more than one.Have you spoken with the reporter shot with a riot control gun while he was doing his job, too?
and I said to you "show me The video of a national guard doing something different then what I said they were doing in my comment."Have you spoken with the reporter shot with a riot control gun while he was doing his job, too?
The reporter was protesting? Dude, do you hear yourself?and I said to you "show me The video of a national guard doing something different then what I said they were doing in my comment."
la police were firing rubber bullets and tear gas at protestors.
If the USians can keep their country together until trump's gone, maybe they can elect a government that gets rid of it ... one can home at least...ICE isn't going to behave regardless, they've happily thrown flashbang grenades at completely peaceful protesters and deliberately shot a reporter with rubber bullets for standing there and reporting.
Getting ICE to behave is not a sane goal.
Exactly the question I have. I wish someone would address this somewhere in the news. I don't fully understand the authority structure of the National Guard and to what extent they are controlled by the states vs the federal government.Why are the leaders of the National Guard troops carrying out an illegal order from Trump? If the CA governor didn't sign off on the mobilization, it's an illegal order, yes?
Don't ever do that!Marines signed up to be the first in or the last out, the sharp end of the spear. Using marines for crowd control is like driving a Ferrari to the store to get groceries.
Actually no, it's like telling your cat to drive to the store to get groceries.
I am all for protests in these times, but peaceful protests are the way.
no I am not stating the reporter was protesting,The reporter was protesting? Dude, do you hear yourself?
Pro tip: don't give him your Grubhub credentials.Don't ever do that!
The last time I did it he came back with twelve cases of Chicken Feast in Gravy Fancy Feast, seven bags of Insane-in-the-Membrane Catnip, three laser pointers, four bags of Science Diet, a $400 self-cleaning litter box, and six boxes of Fresh Step, and fifty cans of StarKist in oil.
I don't expect anyone to out-shoot the military, but if the chain of command is politicized, and lawful orders become a grey area, bad things will surely happen. Exactly what that looks like is a real question, but a bunch of dead protesters is one real possibility. Worse still is the possibility that some troops open fire on protesters and other troops open fire on those troops (the Syrian civil war answer). Part of why this is so reckless is that it has an unbelievable number of ways it could go unexpectedly and catastrophically wrong. That doesn't mean we should abandon all hope, but if some marine's interpretation of the law of war is the only thing standing between you and a marine opening fire on the orders of his/her commander, I would not feel particularly confident about the outcome.Then we might as well give up now because we're not out-shooting the military. You really gotta make up your mind, either Trump is a superman with all kinds of incredible powers that there's no point in fighting because we've already lost, or Trump is just a sundowning, decrepit old man and at least some people in the military still have a sense of decency.
That sounds like a braindead hypothesis. I bet there are lots of reporters with cameras around the protests that are taking footage already. At least if the police isn't shooting at them to drive them away. And I bet many of the protesters are posting videos and pictures online for everyone to see.It is an interesting and chilling possibility that the Waymos could have been summoned by ICE or ICE-sympathizers specifically to create that video of protesters. And then, oh golly, we'll just serve Waymo a warrant for footage that we as law enforcement could not legally create on our own, especially of people who are protesting legally.
If they have been served a warrant, they don't really have a choice, do they? Ideally the data would be end-to-end encrypted and inaccessible, but then it'd be useless to Waymo for safety analysis, and I assume they need to keep it for X time length for regulatory reasons. Unless they're actively providing the data without requiring a warrant, I don't think they're doing anything inherently wrong.
They are authorized to support ICE in their ongoing activities of dubious legality. They are a single step away from having (again questionable legally) "authority" to engage in direct action against civilians.no I am not stating the reporter was protesting,
this is my original comment.
""the national guard at this point is only being used to protect federal employees and buildings.""
my point is the national guard is not participating in policing actions at this point. they are currently there protecting federal buildings assets and personnel.
I personally don't want a mediocre TV personality deciding what laws should be enforced, or that due process doesn't apply to people he wants out of the way.I personally don't want mob rule to decide who gets to go to work and who doesn't. this is in response to you saying the federal government should remove it's employee's.
You know who doesn't know what "majority" means? Tell me you don't know without telling me you don't know...you
you know who does want a mediocre tv personality deciding things? the majority of voters in the united states of america.
That's the point of peaceful protest. Right now, we are not in a state of civil war. Right now, what we need are for the muddled middle, the parents with kids and bills, the average American, to see that this administration is lawless and that ordinary people are taking a peaceful stand.
He hit none of those bars, silly wabbit.ah sorry to burst your bubble but he won the popular vote. by the way here is the definition of majority as well
majority=
a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total
a majority of voters
a two-thirds majority
What's your point? Hitler was also elected legitimately.ah sorry to burst your bubble but he won the popular vote. by the way here is the definition of majority as well
majority=
a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total
a majority of voters
a two-thirds majority
Riots in the street when a fascist takeover (under the pretense of martial law) is imminent. How dare they?!!!I personally don't want mob rule to decide who gets to go to work and who doesn't. this is in response to you saying the federal government should remove it's employee's.
He got just under half of the vote.ah sorry to burst your bubble but he won the popular vote. by the way here is the definition of majority as well
majority=
a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total
a majority of voters
a two-thirds majority
The cameras on a self-driving car produce an enormous flood of video data. It is just not possible to save very much of it. To upload video, it has to be sent through the car's cellular data link, which has only limited capacity - much like streaming video from your phone over cellular (not wifi). Alternatively, robotaxis could be equipped with a big disk for saving video, uploaded through a high bandwidth link when the car returns to its garage. I worked at a company that used both methods in its small engineering test fleet.Sure, but as a mobile camera and sensor platform cruising through a protest against government overreach, it's not unreasonable to expect they will be used to collect information about protestors after the fact for further prosecution etc. There is probably an argument that Waymo should not operate in situations like this because they are going to be targeted by law enforcement as data sources, and by protesters to prevent their use as data sources. I'm not accusing you of burying the lede, but it's an interesting aspect of this emerging technology.
Don't make the mistake of thinking all supporters of Trump are the same, obviously you can't convince everyone, but there is a lot of other kinds of supporters. There are 2 things that really push people one way or the other: money and security. These protests will be portrayed as either "violent thugs attacking law and order" or "violent police attacking peaceful protesters", both affect the feeling of how secure you and your family are, you really want to them to be seen the right way.You can't make this government look bad enough to flip enough support to curtail their behavior. They aren't a political movement, they're a religion. A fuck load of the ardent supporters completely severed ties with their entire families to back MAGA.
I could be wrong, but I don't think it was the national guard that shot him. Details are important.Have you spoken with the reporter shot with a riot control gun while he was doing his job, too?
My reply is more to Dr. Gitlin than to you, but you have a very good point. Trump is known to want to grab power, and has had ICE agents in plain clothes and unmarked vehicles arrest innocent people.What evidence is there that these were burned by protesters? Obviously it's possible, but you've stated it as a fact. So you have proof, right?