Ring cameras are about to get increasingly chummy with law enforcement
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I can give a shout out to the aqara doorbell, I have it running battery powered, it’s isolated network-wise and can only communicate with my appletvs (home hubs) to use through homekit
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Seconded. I've been running Unifi cameras for about a year and they've been great. It was a PITA to run the cable for them, but totally worth it.
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sure would be nice to hit them right in the customers wallet...would be nice to see a bunch of Ring doorbells getting sledgehammered and the videos posted to social...
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Reminder that not everything you read some random person on the internet saying is actually fact, and you should check with verifiable sources, no matter how many people are upvoting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_(company)
Everything Amazon has done with Ring since buying it is of course terrible. But they did not create it. What you're thinking of is (if anything) Amazon Key, which in many ways was much worse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Prime#Amazon_Key
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No comments about telling the iceholes to get the flock out of here? Ars, I am disappoint.
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Voix des Airs
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I'm surprised Flock even asked. Their usual MO is to just put their cameras wherever they want (you've almost surely seen them - they're everywhere -beside roads and just assumed they were something official/supposed to be there), wait until there are complaints and then act shocked and hurt that someone would accuse them of such a thing.
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infernal666
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Decently powerful UV laser pointed at the sensor is easier and leaves no image of you on the camera.would be nice to see a bunch of Ring doorbells getting sledgehammered and the videos posted to social...
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I've been pretty happy with reolink cameras/video doorbell. If you like they can be set up without internet, and run locally with their app, or via the camera's web server - I use it with a home assistant integration which is supported fully by reolink, and is all local, and I don't use the reolink app. I might eventually do an frigate based NVR someday when I trim my project list down a bit.
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The current system actually prevents police access. The only thing they can do is "blanket request" an area and it shows up in a notification in your ring community dashboard. The system doesn't iterate the cameras or addresses - just a geofenced block of an area.
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Well, SCOTUS is right now busy dismantling the electoral system to allow for a permanent MAGA domination. Tens of millions of Americans lined up for a fascist state, after all.
So expect much more of that kind of news, and the system will make it sure you have no right to privacy or recourse if your data is used.
So expect much more of that kind of news, and the system will make it sure you have no right to privacy or recourse if your data is used.
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Nope. I'm the same and I live in one of those cities the right like to claim has super-dangerous no-go zones (London, original flavour not Canadian).
Everybody living in their fortified castles and video surveiling each other 24/7 sounds like a nightmare. You gain more safety by talking to your neighbours and at least attempting to be part of a community than with any number of CCTV cameras.
No amount magic doorbells is actually going to make the cops actually do anything about burglary.
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Have you considered that maybe some people have different conditions and experiences than you, and that maybe your point of view isn’t comprehensive on the matter? For example, how many abusive exes have made you worried about your safety? What if your community is more distributed than the condo door six feet away? And for some people the cameras are to monitor the police, not enable them
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Here in Europe, our society isn't based on fear and hate of the other and violence. Very few people own gun to "defend their homes" and while not everything is a rosy paradise, a strong social contract and police-based protection is always better than gated communities and houses with cameras and electric fences.
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True. Cops won't do anything with your video if you can't tell them who's in it and where they live. But you'll need that footage if you want homeowners insurance to pay out.
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I don't disagree with your second sentence, but your first sentence paints in extremely broad, quite fanciful strokes. If European society is so fundamentally different from the US, why did Brexit happen? Why are rightwing parties in Germany and elsewhere ascendant? Why are rightwing rallies sweeping the UK, among other places? From my perspective, there sure seems to be a lot of "fear and hate of the other" in Europe.
The cracks in European society are showing, and rightwingers and the wealthy are going to be hammering at those cracks nonstop. The US is not some exceptionalist bizarro land that you can just laugh off, it's the canary in the coal mine. We got caught with our pants down, so please, for the love of all that is good, do not make the same mistake.
People around the world need to gear up to fight fascism and authoritarianism, both imposed from abroad and in their own backyards. Please, please, please don't be stupid and complacent like so many Americans were and are.
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They are also associated with Amazon. Wouldn't put it too far that something similar is going on there too.
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MaidenHaus
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I have a TAPO D210 camera/doorbell with local storage, Cops having access to my video recordings is exactly why I didn't go with a RING camera/doorbell. The two cameras I have inside the house are TAPO cameras as well with local storage.
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"“It will be turned on for free for every customer, and I think all of them will use it,” Langely told CNBC."
"We're counting on our customers being mainly suburbanites afraid of brown people, and also being clueless about how these things work."
"We're counting on our customers being mainly suburbanites afraid of brown people, and also being clueless about how these things work."
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Amazon, exactly like Sinclair, is "on your side". Just look at how humanitarian Bezos is, especially towards his employees. And he is well aware of fossil fuel caused global warming, that is why he had the world's largest sail boat built for him, which requires a large diesel powered ship to follow it everywhere since it is too large to fit into some harbors, and the tall masts prevent helicopter use.
"Bezos's sailboat, Koru, requires a diesel-powered support ship, Abeona, because the yacht's tall masts make it impossible to land a helicopter on it, and the support vessel carries supplies, water toys, and crew quarters. Additionally, Abeona provides the necessary power and logistics for the yacht's operations while cruising." And like many other billionaires, he was strongly anti-Felon45 until he wasn't, and now he totally adores der Orange Führer. Sociopaths and psychopaths have united. /S
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/jeff-bezoss-sail-green-superyacht-diesel/
"Bezos's sailboat, Koru, requires a diesel-powered support ship, Abeona, because the yacht's tall masts make it impossible to land a helicopter on it, and the support vessel carries supplies, water toys, and crew quarters. Additionally, Abeona provides the necessary power and logistics for the yacht's operations while cruising." And like many other billionaires, he was strongly anti-Felon45 until he wasn't, and now he totally adores der Orange Führer. Sociopaths and psychopaths have united. /S
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/jeff-bezoss-sail-green-superyacht-diesel/
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Sometimes the surveillance state camera system is the cameras you paid for with your own money along the way.
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They are simply building out Nazi infrastructure. All the wire cage camps they are building out in the desert for migrants will soon have permanent resident dissidents.
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You dont have a MAGA sign in your front yard!?!?!?!?! You must be one of THEM! ... ... ... We got our eyes on you!
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You think it's hypocritical for Democrats to exhale carbon dioxide, but thanks for sharing.
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No Ring items here, Blue Iris and IP cameras are my solution. While I may be sympathetic to helping solve a crime I don't want my assets turned into assets of a surveillance state. If I hear that something happened, I'll review my captures and decide if I want to participate. Of course, if law enforcement drives up my drive way to look for cameras that may exist, they are only one judge away from getting the data by force. In that case the easy way for them is taking all my computers and letting someone else sort it out.
In reality, not much difference from the situation in the article.
I've been considering a dash camera but keep weighing if it would be a tool to help me or hurt me, it cuts both ways.
In reality, not much difference from the situation in the article.
I've been considering a dash camera but keep weighing if it would be a tool to help me or hurt me, it cuts both ways.
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Anti Jimmy
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The problem doesn't lie in those instances when the camera can help justice, but rather when it exacerbates injustice.
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Or bri... ahem "get" public officials to sign their drone surveillance contracts without properly consulting their city's own Surveillance Task Force (this after that same mayor had signed a license plate reader contract after the task force had unanimously voted against it).
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Do you have any links to some expert discussion of the flock stuff? the way they present it in this article seems pretty reasonable, but the fine print matters.
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