Review: The Mandalorian and Grogu is average Star Wars—no more, no less

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We'll stream it, eventually. Sometime after we get around to watching season 3. Probably.

It may say something about current offerings that most recently, on the one or two evenings per week I sit down with my son and ask what he wants to watch, he chooses the 1975 Jim Hutton Ellery Queen series. We're up to episode 14.

He may get to it with his mom before that, and that's fine. She's a Pedro Pascal fan.
 
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I had a completely different experience. The fight scenes for me were the best part of the movie.

I put it right up there with the best Star Wars movie of all time, Rogue One, and the second best, Empire Strikes Back.

The 15-20 min opening action sequence was intense and completely unforgetable.





Or maybe I just had a really good time because I took my 7 y/o little girl to her first Star Wars movie in IMAX 3D.
 
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Lets be honest with ourselves. Grogu sells... ALOT. This is all about making him be cute and selling more and more Grogu. You might as well have Mel Brooks jump out and say "Merchandising Moi-chen-dizing!" every 15 minutes.
FTFY. Half the joy of the joke is how he pronounces it.
 
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My understanding of Grogu through the rumor mill was that Filoni and Favreau intended for Grogu to stay with Luke, but Kathleen Kennedy overruled them for obvious commercial reasons, nearly causing Favreau to depart.

Does anyone have real sources for this?

I understand why Kennedy would do that, commercially speaking, but Dave Filoni in particular has proven his mettle with Star Wars, especially Rebels and Rogue One, and I think the series would have been better had the showrunners been allowed to run their show.
 
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Or maybe I just had a really good time because I took my 7 y/o little girl to her first Star Wars movie in IMAX 3D.
That's probably a lot of it, and it's a great thing. My kids are a bit younger and so far less interested in movies, but it's a blast introducing them to my old favorite books and seeing them excited by newer books that certainly weren't going on my reading list otherwise. I look forward to doing the same with movies, including whatever new Star Wars comes out! Even if I'm not entirely enamored with whatever current version of Star Wars.

But for now, much of the rest of the Filoni versions of Star Wars are a thorough meh for me. I've watched an episode or two of every show/season, even the first season (or two? I can't honestly remember) of The Mandalorian. And each time I try again I am vaguely entertained for a bit of time but thoroughly uninterested in more of the same. If it's you're comfort food, enjoy and have fun with family, but it ain't mine.
 
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This is exactly what I expected, which is disappointing. Until that awful third season, The Mandalorian was my favourite Star Wars story of the new generation. The premise lent itself so well to an episodic TV series, too: "bounty hunter & sidekick ride into a new town and have a new adventure every week". I wish we could have kept doing that, instead of bogging these characters down in weird Mandalorian / Jedi backstory or trying to turn them into a theatrical blockbuster.

I'll wait for streaming. "Squandered potential" seems to be Disney's catchphrase when it comes to Star Wars.
 
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It has the highest audience score over all other Star Wars movies, other than the original trilogy, and the highest ever since Disney bought the IP.

Jon Favreau isn't infallible, but I really like that he took pseudo control over the IP with Mandalorian, other than season 3.

Seems like a fun time, I'll make the journey to the theater to see it for sure, even if it appears to be mostly an extended season 4 crunched into a feature length film.
 
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Season 3 was already very weak, with bad dialogues, story-lines that were pulled out of a hat or abandoned midway, weak character motivations and lots of stuff that seemed to happen in between episodes or who knows when. Looks like the movie continues along the same line. Fine, but skippable.
This was better than season 3 and felt like a return to form. I found it fun and pretty well paced but it's not ground breaking or anything.

Considering how this is looking to perform at the boxoffice and who the director and writer of next years Starfighter film are I expect another multi year hiatus after 2027 for both film and streaming in live action Star Wars.
 
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Ushio

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This is exactly what I expected, which is disappointing. Until that awful third season, The Mandalorian was my favourite Star Wars story of the new generation. The premise lent itself so well to an episodic TV series, too: "bounty hunter & sidekick ride into a new town and have a new adventure every week". I wish we could have kept doing that, instead of bogging these characters down in weird Mandalorian / Jedi backstory or trying to turn them into a theatrical blockbuster.

I'll wait for streaming. "Squandered potential" seems to be Disney's catchphrase when it comes to Star Wars.
I would call this a return to form then as it's bascially just a series of riding into towns to capture/kill the bad guy.

There is no jedi or mandalorian back story in this film at all.
 
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My understanding of Grogu through the rumor mill was that Filoni and Favreau intended for Grogu to stay with Luke, but Kathleen Kennedy overruled them for obvious commercial reasons, nearly causing Favreau to depart.

Does anyone have real sources for this?

I understand why Kennedy would do that, commercially speaking, but Dave Filoni in particular has proven his mettle with Star Wars, especially Rebels and Rogue One, and I think the series would have been better had the showrunners been allowed to run their show.
Ah, Kathleen Kennedy, the destroyer of franchises. Now that Star Wars is in hands of Filoni… I'm not sure whether things will be better. After all, I heard that Boba Fett's show was terrible because if Disney's meddling with the script.
 
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The funny thing is: I'm landing firmly on the "Give me more Andor-like, more Rogue-One-like" Star Wars

Maybe its just the lack of young kids in my orbit at this point (my kids are all 20+ at this point) but none of us have any tolerance for the current crop of Star Wars content. There's so much potential to "explore the dark-side in a meaningful way" that isn't being touched.
When it came out: I took my kids to Rise of Skywalker. We walked out, looked at one another and went "that was atrocious" (more or less)
RoS is still the only Star Wars movie that's gotten exactly one viewing since release. :(

And it took Andor to restore a bit of faith in the state of Star Wars. :( And nothing else tracks.

its kind of disheartening, frankly. I'd like a bit of that youthful joy to show back up again.
 
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Snark's Law of Star Wars Extended Universe Media: the closer the new show or movie is to characters or events in the first trilogy, the further they get from being indisputably good, and vice versa.

Evidence? Rogue One, Andor. Counter evidence? The sequel trilogy, Solo, apparently this.

The story needs to stand on its own two feet first and foremost, always. Tie-ins, merchandising, sequels, and spin-offs are fine....but only if they naturally and organically serve a story that is compelling and makes an independent case that it really needs to be told. It can't be a story someone just thinks will get some asses in seats if it's told. You could watch Andor or Rogue One having never watched any other piece of Star Wars media and be told a good, solid, compelling story. QED.
 
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I would call this a return to form then as it's bascially just a series of riding into towns to capture/kill the bad guy.

There is no jedi or mandalorian back story in this film at all.

Sure, but what's great for a weekly TV show is not great for a theatrical experience. "This is just like an episode of the TV show" is generally speaking not a good observation to make of a movie you are being asked to pay extra money for and to make an appointment to go and see. (See also: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, or Star Trek: Insurrection).
 
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For better or worse, it pretty much feels like a longer bigger budget Mandalorian episode, or like a mini arc lasting a few episodes. I've seen some speculation/hopes that it'd retroactively tie in or fill in gaps in the main trilogies and/or expand on the broader universe (kinda like the Star Wars shows have tried to an extent)...but it doesn't. For better or worse.

From some interview I saw it sounded like Favreau saw this as an entry point for a new generation, and from that perspective it makes sense. It feels pretty self contained and has potential to jump off from there. Like for someone that knows little to nothing about Star Wars, it's almost like the only real context it uses from the grander universe is that The Empire has fallen, but there's still remnant bad guys out there.

I saw it on an AMC "XL" screen...which turned out to be a pretty regular or even smallish screen. I don't know to what extent (like just portions or the whole movie?) but they did film with IMAX in mind, and there's parts where I definitely would've appreciated a bigger screens. Anyway I liked it, saw it with friends that liked it...and will probably see it with family hoping for a true bigger screen experience.
My understanding of Grogu through the rumor mill was that Filoni and Favreau intended for Grogu to stay with Luke, but Kathleen Kennedy overruled them for obvious commercial reasons, nearly causing Favreau to depart.

Does anyone have real sources for this?

I understand why Kennedy would do that, commercially speaking, but Dave Filoni in particular has proven his mettle with Star Wars, especially Rebels and Rogue One, and I think the series would have been better had the showrunners been allowed to run their show.
It'd be interesting to hear the logic for staying with Luke, both from a story perspective and just like...logistically, with an aging Mark Hamill. Luke teaching baby Yoda to become a Jedi feels a bit on the nose.
 
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Could have easily been a 2-3 episodes of the show, but otherwise if you enjoyed the show, you’ll enjoy the movie.

Nothing earth shattering or revelatory to the greater universe, but honestly that may have been for the best. Enjoyable little adventure in the Star Wars universe hit better than if that had tried to shoehorn it more deeply into movies.

Also, Glup Shitto makes some fun appearances!
 
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