Review: Jodie Whittaker’s Time Lord returns to classic Doctor Who form

Showrunner Chris Chibnall revived an old nemesis, a former ally, and a classic monster

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Is it just me, or was this season a bit scary for a kid's show?

It seems like the prior Doctors were more apt to face more cartoonish monsters of the week.

I've been going back to Eccleston's run as Nine with my six-year-old and there's a lot of scary in there, too. Goofy things like the mannequins are actually *more* terrifying to some kids, because they're *real* and you see them in Target every time you go shopping...

Plus honestly Judoon are kind of silly.

That scared you?

 

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Is it just me, or was this season a bit scary for a kid's show?

It seems like the prior Doctors were more apt to face more cartoonish monsters of the week.

It was never a kids show.

yes it was/is. Modern day - It was conceived for production, and still today billed, as a 'family show'. In other words, it was conceived as a wholesome show that kids can watch. Although many adults do watch it watch, its main demographic audience is school kids. It has a UK classification of 12, meaning that it's suitable for that age and above - kids show too.

Doctor Who circa 1963-1989 was initially planned as a children's show for ITV. The remake in 2005 was planned as a children's fantasy series.

 

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Is it just me, or was this season a bit scary for a kid's show?

It seems like the prior Doctors were more apt to face more cartoonish monsters of the week.

It was never a kids show.

yes it was/is. Modern day - It was conceived for production, and still today billed, as a 'family show'. In other words, it was conceived as a wholesome show that kids can watch. Although adults do watch it, its main audience is school kids. It has a UK classification of 12, meaning that it's suitable for that age and above - kids show too.

Doctor Who circa 1963-1989 was initially planned as a children's show for ITV. The remake in 2005 was planned as a children's fantasy series.

While I do agree with fact that Dr Who has always been a show for the family but it has always been a BBC production.

Doctor Who circa 1963-1989 was initially envisioned as a series for ITV. But Sydney Newman moved to BBC and David Whittaker reworked the series to be suitable for a mix of audiences and the show ended up at BBC. They wanted to get the viewers of other shows so when it got to BBC it was reworked to expand its audience from strictly children's fantasy series for kids to a universal audience and a 'family show' label was slapped on it. The rework worked and the show became very popular.

In 1996 BBC threatened to drop the show over disputes about money. To force BBC to the mat for more money a production with ITV was arranged and ITV was willing to meet the money demand. To not lose the show BBC caved and the show went back to BBC.

So in an odd way/sense twist of fate type of thing, you can thank ITV for Doctor Who being on BBC. If ITV would not have been available and BBC did not cave, the fall back was to move the show to either Austraila or the US.

 

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I'm afraid you completely disqualified yourself from reviewing this dreadful incarnation when you admitted without any embarassment that "I thought [series 11] was solid and showed a lot of promise".

Whittaker is a terrible doctor, worse even than McCoy, and it fully deserves it's derogatory nickname of Dr Woke.

Complete junk.

I'm afraid you completely disqualified yourself from commenting on this review when you claimed "Whittaker is a terrible doctor".

I'm sure you'd much rather they went back to the good old days of not caring about social issues...oh wait, they don't exist except in the fevered imaginations of grumpy, middle aged guys.

Some of us don't watch our sci-fi shows for the "social issues." And we certainly don't want those social issues crammed down or throats in the way that execrable plastic pollution ep did.

And it's a real shame people, such as yourself, can't discuss the show without resorting to childish insults.

sci-fi is not supposed to be only about social issues, but that is basically what its evolving into along with other TV/movie entertainment. Its a shame too, its becoming so prevalent in sci-fi and other TV/movies that its actually starting to drive people away. There is such a thing as overload and that is whats happening.

Just because you want your entertainment to not be about social issues does not mean you do not care about social issues.

Apparently 'Faceless Man' thinks social issues are entertainment and doesn't know how to separate the two.

 

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I'm afraid you completely disqualified yourself from reviewing this dreadful incarnation when you admitted without any embarassment that "I thought [series 11] was solid and showed a lot of promise".

Whittaker is a terrible doctor, worse even than McCoy, and it fully deserves it's derogatory nickname of Dr Woke.

Complete junk.

I'm afraid you completely disqualified yourself from commenting on this review when you claimed "Whittaker is a terrible doctor".

I'm sure you'd much rather they went back to the good old days of not caring about social issues...oh wait, they don't exist except in the fevered imaginations of grumpy, middle aged guys.

Some of us don't watch our sci-fi shows for the "social issues." And we certainly don't want those social issues crammed down or throats in the way that execrable plastic pollution ep did.

And it's a real shame people, such as yourself, can't discuss the show without resorting to childish insults.

sci-fi is not supposed to be only about social issues, but that is basically what its evolving into along with other TV/movie entertainment. Its a shame too, its becoming so prevalent in sci-fi and other TV/movies that its actually starting to drive people away. There is such a thing as overload and that is whats happening.

Just because you want your entertainment to not be about social issues does not mean you do not care about social issues.

Apparently 'Faceless Man' thinks social issues are entertainment and doesn't know how to separate the two.

Apparently some people on here failed basic reading comprehension. I never said any of that. My comments were strictly about Doctor Who which has dealt with social issues for pretty much its entire run (approaching 60 years now), some times better than others.

There's plenty of entertainment that doesn't deal with social issues, so go watch that instead of bitching about a show that does because you don't like the current cast and/or show runner.

Hell, there's plenty of old Doctor Who on DVD or Blu Ray that you can buy and watch as often as you want, so you can enjoy that and not worry about the current show.

And while we're at it, I'm sorry if anyone was insulted by anything I said in my previous post, but I don't know how you would have been, unless you are a grumpy middle-aged man who just wants to whine about modern TV not making them happy.

You didn't write this...

Faceless Man wrote:
I'm sure you'd much rather they went back to the good old days of not caring about social issues...oh wait, they don't exist except in the fevered imaginations of grumpy, middle aged guys.

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marsilies wrote:

So you're confirming that you're one of the people on here that, in his words, "failed basic reading comprehension"? His original comment was about Doctor Who, which has always cared about social issues.

I'm just asking if he wrote that, after all he did write "I never said any of that." when its right there in his own post. Apparently you did not comprehend that.

 

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marsilies wrote:

So you're confirming that you're one of the people on here that, in his words, "failed basic reading comprehension"? His original comment was about Doctor Who, which has always cared about social issues.

I'm just asking if he wrote that, after all he did write "I never said any of that." when its right there in his own post. Apparently you did not comprehend that.

This is what I mean about failing basic reading comprehension. I was talking about the TV show Doctor Who not "Entertainment". Even if I had been talking about entertainment in general, I said it "cares about social issues" not that "social issues are entertainment", or even that not wanting your entertainment to be about social issues means you don't care about social issues. I said that complaining that modern Doctor Who us ruined by "caring" about social issues is denying that the classic series also "cared" about social issues.

I suppose it's my use of the word "caring". That must be confusing you.

But you did write that anyway, not matter what you meant.

No, what 'confused' me is below this;

Theodophilus P. Wildebeeste wrote:
I'm afraid you completely disqualified yourself from reviewing this dreadful incarnation when you admitted without any embarassment that "I thought [series 11] was solid and showed a lot of promise".

Whittaker is a terrible doctor, worse even than McCoy, and it fully deserves it's derogatory nickname of Dr Woke.

Complete junk.

You replied:

Faceless Man wrote:
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I'm sure you'd much rather they went back to the good old days of not caring about social issues...oh wait, they don't exist except in the fevered imaginations of grumpy, middle aged guys.
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He expressed he did not like it, you insulted him (intentional or not) by making it look like his dislike was not valid because he did not care about social issues as if that was some type of qualification to like or dislike the show.

Faceless Man wrote:

I said that complaining that modern Doctor Who us ruined by "caring" about social issues is denying that the classic series also "cared" about social issues.

No you didn't. That may be what you meant in your mind some way or another but this is what you wrote and insulted in response to his dislike:

Faceless Man wrote:
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I'm sure you'd much rather they went back to the good old days of not caring about social issues...oh wait, they don't exist except in the fevered imaginations of grumpy, middle aged guys.
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so because he disliked it you think he'd rather go "back to the good old days of not caring about social issues" as if he never cared about them because he disliked Doctor Who.

This part from you:

Faceless Man wrote:
I was talking about the TV show Doctor Who not "Entertainment".

entertainment
[ˌen(t)ərˈtānmənt]
NOUN

the action of providing or being provided with amusement or enjoyment.

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If you watch Doctor Who for enjoyment, be it for the social issues being touched on or the Tardis or anything else with the show, its entertainment.

The TV show Doctor Who is "Entertainment". Just because it touches on social issues does not mean it isn't entertainment. There is no separate "Doctor Who" and "Entertainment" - "Doctor Who" for a fact is entertainment.

If you watch it because you care about social issues then fine, but don't expect everyone to watch it for that reason because the show is for a fact entertainment to a large part of its audience.

Caring about social issues or not is not a requirement to watch and/or like or dislike Doctor Who. The show is intended to appeal to a wide range of audiences, not just those who care about social issues.

Some of that audience may or may not like the show and the reasons can be many/varied, but if someone dislikes it then it does not have to be about "back to the good old days of not caring about social issues...oh wait, they don't exist except in the fevered imaginations of grumpy, middle aged guys" like you implied was the qualification for not liking Doctor Who.

 

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This season was total garbage

careful - Faceless Man and marsilies will accuse you of not caring about social issues if you don't like something about the show.