Researchers have already tested Google’s algorithms for political bias

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Conservatives: “We’re being persecuted for our political beliefs!”

Everyone else: “You’re being persecuted for wanting tax cuts and smaller government?”

C: “...no.”

EE: “Promoting economic growth through free market competition?”

C: “No...”

EE: “Free trade? Right to work? Unrestricted health care programs?”

C: “No, no, no!”

EE: “Then which beliefs are you being persecuted for?”

C: “Well... you know...”
 
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From fact-checking websites Snopes and PolitiFact, the scientists were able to get a set of YouTube videos that had been labelled true or false.
Are these sites unbiased? How can entire videos, as opposed to specific statements, be true or false?
A video containing no false or misleading statements can be labeled true.

Not sure why that’s hard to understand.
 
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Does this surprise ANYONE?

Most republican policies and arguments are against equality, and this perspective attracts those who well, you know, don't WANT equality. Who are against X or Y groups - and who spout hateful words.

Additionally, most republican arguments are not based on facts, soooooo...yeah.

If the policies aren't hateful and if the arguments were supported by facts, then they aren't taken down.

This factual data isn't going to affect them though lol. It's not going to convince them because they'll just say that their "alternative facts" are being ignored...
 
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But I'm a Republican piece of shit who's made multiple statements on the record confirming my racism, misogyny, and blind ignorance ... why is Google saying so many bad things about me? Wah! Muh bias!

The funny thing is that they seem to know they're horrible people, because they get upset when their actual stated positions are brought to light. Seems like they should be celebrating that exposure, instead.
 
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From fact-checking websites Snopes and PolitiFact, the scientists were able to get a set of YouTube videos that had been labelled true or false.
Are these sites unbiased? How can entire videos, as opposed to specific statements, be true or false?
A video containing no false or misleading statements can be labeled true.

Not sure why that’s hard to understand.


From fact-checking websites Snopes and PolitiFact, the scientists were able to get a set of YouTube videos that had been labelled true or false.

That said, I think many Conservatives think PolitiFact and Snopes are "left-leaning", so they are still going to argue that tech remains biased.
 
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From fact-checking websites Snopes and PolitiFact, the scientists were able to get a set of YouTube videos that had been labelled true or false.
Are these sites unbiased? How can entire videos, as opposed to specific statements, be true or false?
A video containing no false or misleading statements can be labeled true.

Not sure why that’s hard to understand.


From fact-checking websites Snopes and PolitiFact, the scientists were able to get a set of YouTube videos that had been labelled true or false.

That said, I think many Conservatives think PolitiFact and Snopes are "left-leaning", so they are still going to argue that tech remains biased.

Reality has a liberal bias.
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.
More people use it to claim they've been wrongly labeled with "hatespeech" for simply saying "unpopular" things.
Like "Stoning should be a legal punishment for gays."
 
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From fact-checking websites Snopes and PolitiFact, the scientists were able to get a set of YouTube videos that had been labelled true or false.
Are these sites unbiased? How can entire videos, as opposed to specific statements, be true or false?
That's fairly easy to figure out. If a video (or, as is the case with a proportion of ars comments) starts with a premise that is not factual and then expounds on that premise to make an argument on an issue/point of view/subject, then that video could be labeled 'false'. I myself, when watching obvious bullshit, just call bullshit 'Bullshit', but I'm assuming they're attempting to be polite when labeling bullshit 'false'.
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.
More people use it to claim they've been wrongly labeled with "hatespeech" for simply saying "unpopular" things.
Like "Stoning should be a legal punishment for gays."
Dylan: "Everybody must get stoned..."
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.
I think the UN defines it quite well:

What is hate speech?

There is no international legal definition of hate speech, and the characterization of what
is ‘hateful’ is controversial and disputed. In the context of this document, the term hate
speech is understood as any kind of communication in speech, writing or behaviour, that
attacks or uses pejorative or discriminatory language with reference to a person or a group
on the basis of who they are, in other words, based on their religion, ethnicity, nationality,
race, colour, descent, gender or other identity factor. This is often rooted in, and generates
intolerance and hatred and, in certain contexts, can be demeaning and divisive.

But do go on about how this clearly implicates your totally genuine feelings about, you know, taxes and small-government.
 
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"Conservatives" are not getting censored. Extreme far right and moderately left-Democratic to far-left voices are. Methodology for testing this is based on vague labels and a lot of reports on the trend seem to ignore Google's statements by Ben Gomes which openly admit to the political censorship policy using the terms "fake news" and "authoritative sources". https://blog.google/products/search/our ... ts-search/

Leftist/antiwar sites like WSWS, Antiwar.com, Black Agenda Report, AlterNet, Democracy Now!, Common Dreams, and Truthout all had their Google search traffic decimated, cut in half or worse by this policy of deliberate search result demotion.
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.
More people use it to claim they've been wrongly labeled with "hatespeech" for simply saying "unpopular" things.
Like "Stoning should be a legal punishment for gays."
Well, that's only "unpopular" with those that disagree with that notion. Those people that advocate stoning gays may also be "unpopular", so it's gets a bit complicated once the ball gets rolling.
/s if needed
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.
More people use it to claim they've been wrongly labeled with "hatespeech" for simply saying "unpopular" things.
Like "Stoning should be a legal punishment for gays."
Well, that's only "unpopular" with those that disagree with that notion. Those people may also be "unpopular", so it's gets a bit complicated once the ball gets rolling.
Killing all the Jews is only unpopular with Jews, so totally not hate speech.
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.
More people use it to claim they've been wrongly labeled with "hatespeech" for simply saying "unpopular" things.
Like "Stoning should be a legal punishment for gays."
Well, that's only "unpopular" with those that disagree with that notion. Those people may also be "unpopular", so it's gets a bit complicated once the stones gets rolling.


FTFY
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.
More people use it to claim they've been wrongly labeled with "hatespeech" for simply saying "unpopular" things.
Like "Stoning should be a legal punishment for gays."
Well, that's only "unpopular" with those that disagree with that notion. Those people may also be "unpopular", so it's gets a bit complicated once the ball gets rolling.
Killing all the Jews in only unpopular with Jews, so totally not hate speech.
Well, it's unpopular with me and I'm not Jewish and while I catch your meaning I must disagree with that.
See how complicated it gets?
 
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Was Rand Paul's speech/question on the Senate floor "hate speech"?
The one where he flouted federal regulations regarding whistleblowers?
I don't believe he actually called the person the whistleblower. But I don't know, because the video has been censored.

I think this person has simply become He Who Must Not Be Named.
No, just He Who Must Not Be Named In Legal Proceedings Wherein His Identity Is Irrelevant To The Veracity Of His Claims Which Were Independently Confirmed By Testimony Of Other Officials And Revealing His Identity Serves No Purpose Other Than To Enable Defenders Of The President To Attack Him Personally And/Or Fire Him From His Federal Job.

That doesn't quite roll off the tongue though.
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.

Until financial conservatives tell the following people to eat shit and fuck off out of the Republican party, you are bound at the hip to them and no amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth will change that.

* People who want to punish women for having sex.
* People who have no qualms splitting up Hispanic families and treating them like subhumans fleeing gang violence born out of us deporting people hardened in the crucible of our horrid prisons, who in turn destroyed everything.
* People who want to cut SNAP benefits to everyone because fuck those people, wink wink
* Etc.

You want your vaunted tax cuts, even though the corporations who will actually get them will gladly sell you lead-tainted bottled water if they could? Tell the Evangelicals, the neo-Nazis, etc. to get lost. Oh, you need them to win against people like me? Well then!
 
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People have different interpretations as to what hate speech means. It's a loaded phrase.

No it really isn't. It is a clearly defined phrase that some people opt to try and make it look like it's a loaded phrase or has different meaning or blah blah blah blah blah. Hate speech is discriminatory speech against an individual or group of people based on their race, disability, gender, sex, sexual orientation, religion and things that would fall under a protected class. Just because some conservatives or folks like you like to act like there are different interpretation because it suits your modus operandi does not mean much of anything in reality.
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.
More people use it to claim they've been wrongly labeled with "hatespeech" for simply saying "unpopular" things.
Like "Stoning should be a legal punishment for gays."

1. "Pedophiles should be castrated"
2. "Gays should be castrated"

Which of these statements is "hate speech"? Both? None? The most interesting case is if you think one of them is, and the other isn't. If you believe that, why?
One of these involves criminals who have willfully sexually abused children, while the other involves consenting adults.

Totally the same thing though /s.
 
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[compares homosexuals to pedophiles]

Which of these statements is "hate speech"? Both? None? The most interesting case is if you think one of them is, and the other isn't. If you believe that, why?
Could you try again without a construction that's inherently bigoted?
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.
More people use it to claim they've been wrongly labeled with "hatespeech" for simply saying "unpopular" things.
Like "Stoning should be a legal punishment for gays."

1. "Pedophiles should be castrated"
2. "Gays should be castrated"

Which of these statements is "hate speech"? Both? None? The most interesting case is if you think one of them is, and the other isn't. If you believe that, why?

#1 involves people who took advantage of pre-pubescent children who are neither physically, mentally, emotionally, or psychologically ready for sex, and it causes untold harm to them.
"2 "Gays", as you so eloquently put it, involves two or more consenting adults. As long as what they do does not kill them or others or render them mentally or physically crippled for life to the point they are wards of the state, they are free to do whatever they want. Put on that Big Bird costume and get out the whip and Pepto Bismol for all I care; they're consenting adults.
 
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Define "hate speech".

Some people quite literally use the term to describe anything they disagree with.
More people use it to claim they've been wrongly labeled with "hatespeech" for simply saying "unpopular" things.
Like "Stoning should be a legal punishment for gays."
Well, that's only "unpopular" with those that disagree with that notion. Those people may also be "unpopular", so it's gets a bit complicated once the ball gets rolling.
Killing all the Jews in only unpopular with Jews, so totally not hate speech.
Well, it's unpopular with me and I'm not Jewish and while I catch your meaning I must disagree with that.
See how complicated it gets?
Societies are complicated, but defining hate-speech is not.

If killing Jews was popular with you, and popular with a majority of people, would you call it complicated and not necessarily hate-speech?
Umm, you're clearly missing my snark. I'm trying to add a little satire to the proceedings. Relax.
 
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