Aug 19, 2020 Replies: 338 Add bookmark Either quantum state has to collapse at macroscopic level, or reality is unreal. Read the whole story Click to expand...
Either quantum state has to collapse at macroscopic level, or reality is unreal. Read the whole story
CraigJ ✅ Ars Legatus Legionis 12y 27,010 Subscriptor Aug 19, 2020 #23 Aug 19, 2020 Add bookmark #23 Maldoror said: megabaseballdork said: What is so unpalatable about super-determinism? Click to expand... No free will. Or, if that is too on the nose, free will is an illusion. Click to expand... Which is mostly is. A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants. ••• More options Report Add bookmark Share Upvote 36 (38 / -2)
Maldoror said: megabaseballdork said: What is so unpalatable about super-determinism? Click to expand... No free will. Or, if that is too on the nose, free will is an illusion. Click to expand... Which is mostly is. A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants.
CraigJ ✅ Ars Legatus Legionis 12y 27,010 Subscriptor Aug 19, 2020 #90 Aug 19, 2020 Add bookmark #90 alastairmayer said: Reality is what it is, but our perception of it may be (and probably is) messed up. That said, causality is overrated. Click to expand... Be careful - violating global causality might cause the sun to go nova... ••• More options Report Add bookmark Share Upvote 2 (2 / 0)
alastairmayer said: Reality is what it is, but our perception of it may be (and probably is) messed up. That said, causality is overrated. Click to expand... Be careful - violating global causality might cause the sun to go nova...
CraigJ ✅ Ars Legatus Legionis 12y 27,010 Subscriptor Aug 19, 2020 #131 Aug 19, 2020 Add bookmark #131 alastairmayer said: CraigJ said: alastairmayer said: Reality is what it is, but our perception of it may be (and probably is) messed up. That said, causality is overrated. Click to expand... Be careful - violating global causality might cause the sun to go nova... Click to expand... Are you sure about that? (And yes, I got the reference -- Niven's story with the same title as Tipler's paper.) Click to expand... Yes I'm sure. Maybe. I think you'll have to tell me. ••• More options Report Add bookmark Share Upvote -1 (0 / -1)
alastairmayer said: CraigJ said: alastairmayer said: Reality is what it is, but our perception of it may be (and probably is) messed up. That said, causality is overrated. Click to expand... Be careful - violating global causality might cause the sun to go nova... Click to expand... Are you sure about that? (And yes, I got the reference -- Niven's story with the same title as Tipler's paper.) Click to expand... Yes I'm sure. Maybe. I think you'll have to tell me.