Police arrest suspect accused of “unprecedented” DDoS attack on Spamhaus

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Zorro[/url]":1omg02eh]"Kamphuis' Facebook page has also claimed he has diplomatic immunity."

That's Dutch for "Arrest Me!"

Sounds like they should open a window in the CyberBunker and get some fresh air in there, obviously he's not been getting enough oxygen.
 
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FoolioDisplasius

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he should still be presumed innocent until proven otherwise
It's a sad day when journalists have to remind us of the most basic principle of our justice system. Kudos to Ars for specifically pointing out that it does not endorse the kind of witch hunt triggered by articles of the big 3.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24375675#p24375675:3ve03rcq said:
FoolioDisplasius[/url]":3ve03rcq]
he should still be presumed innocent until proven otherwise
It's a sad day when journalists have to remind us of the most basic principle of our justice system. Kudos to Ars for specifically pointing out that it does not endorse the kind of witch hunt triggered by articles of the big 3.
This is exactly why Dutch police, prosecution service and media only release initials of arrested suspects.

Here in Britain the media prefer not only to use full names but placenames and streetnames too. Just to make sure the angry mob has burned your house down before a court of law has deemed you innocent.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24375675#p24375675:1yhsa5ce said:
FoolioDisplasius[/url]":1yhsa5ce]
he should still be presumed innocent until proven otherwise
It's a sad day when journalists have to remind us of the most basic principle of our justice system. Kudos to Ars for specifically pointing out that it does not endorse the kind of witch hunt triggered by articles of the big 3.

Except "presumed innocent until proven otherwise" is a LEGAL restriction on the conduct of the prosecution. It does not bind anyone else. Kamphius is a world-class scumbag by his own words and actions- whether you think we should all presume his innocence amidst all of his "I didn't do it, really, wink wink" posturing means nothing at all.

His attacks on Spamhaus alone make him worthy of my contempt, not to speak of his explicit support of "the right to send spam". So I fervently hope that SK is Kamphius, and I also hope he gets the book thrown at him.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24375947#p24375947:2s51mue3 said:
Morris von Habsburg[/url]":2s51mue3]This is exactly why Dutch police, prosecution service and media only release initials of arrested suspects.

Here in Britain the media prefer not only to use full names but placenames and streetnames too. Just to make sure the angry mob has burned your house down before a court of law has deemed you innocent.

I wish they did that here in the US. Instead of, you know, this. :(
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24375511#p24375511:3ihzs6ak said:
Zorro[/url]":3ihzs6ak]"Kamphuis' Facebook page has also claimed he has diplomatic immunity."

That's Dutch for "Arrest Me!"
Aww, and here I was hoping it was Dutch for "Prenda 2.0".
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24375623#p24375623:2s47st4y said:
Mo'Handy[/url]":2s47st4y]This event could be a wake-up call to spammers and DDoS perps-- it is possible that the internet does not provide an impenetrable cloak of anonymity. Perps can be caught, after all.
Do explain how the arrest of a suspect should lead to your assertion?
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24375675#p24375675:9slhok8p said:
FoolioDisplasius[/url]":9slhok8p]
he should still be presumed innocent until proven otherwise
It's a sad day when journalists have to remind us of the most basic principle of our justice system. Kudos to Ars for specifically pointing out that it does not endorse the kind of witch hunt triggered by articles of the big 3.

Ours as in the Dutch? Ours as in the United States of America? Or Ours as in the global communities?

Cause, not all countries do have an assumption of innocence until proven guilty in their constitutions or judicial codes.

Though, last I checked, the United States and all EU members do have that. Acting that way though...
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24376079#p24376079:9v2uih9k said:
stiltner[/url]":9v2uih9k]Innocent until proven guilty.

Unless you're dark skinned and reddit finds out about you.

Then your only choice is to drown yourself to get away from the psuedo police.

If you are referring to Sunni, you are referring to a cause and effect that does not exist. As I understand it, he was in the water before the bombing at the marathon.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24375947#p24375947:16g5ury2 said:
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24375675#p24375675:16g5ury2 said:
FoolioDisplasius[/url]":16g5ury2]
he should still be presumed innocent until proven otherwise
It's a sad day when journalists have to remind us of the most basic principle of our justice system. Kudos to Ars for specifically pointing out that it does not endorse the kind of witch hunt triggered by articles of the big 3.
This is exactly why Dutch police, prosecution service and media only release initials of arrested suspects.

Here in Britain the media prefer not only to use full names but placenames and streetnames too. Just to make sure the angry mob has burned your house down before a court of law has deemed you innocent.

I've seen that in local newspapers but not in national media. Is that really spread to national media?
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24375675#p24375675:dmdwhyml said:
FoolioDisplasius[/url]":dmdwhyml]
he should still be presumed innocent until proven otherwise
It's a sad day when journalists have to remind us of the most basic principle of our justice system.

Ah, yes, I remember the good old days when people didn't typically leap to conclusions and form mobs based on shreds of evidence.

No, wait, I don't. Most of the minutia of due process exists to reign in our natural inclinations.
 
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It would be truly fitting that a parasite spammer is the first to be executed for over all damage to the net.

I would gladly pay for the bullet, the rope, the scaffold, and I would have zero problem pulling the handle.
I would have more problem stepping on a cockroach, it might be useful for something.

Spammers make great fertilizer.... (They are 100% full of crap.)
After you execute them just give them an enema and bury them in a match box.
 
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Why wasn't this guy in his "impenetrable bunker"?

Oh, and thanks DOOManiac for the Daily Show link - unfortunately it is not available in Australia. I had to click through several sites before I found one that would let me watch a brilliant video. Somehow I don't think it's Jon Stewart who's enforcing that blockade, but it provides yet another explanation for why so many Australians are apparently raising the skull & crossbones and setting sail for ye olde bootlegged Game of Thrones.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24378871#p24378871:myew17yn said:
Postulator[/url]":myew17yn]Why wasn't this guy in his "impenetrable bunker"?
Being in that bunker was all a bit of hubris. While his company 'Cyberbunker' was at one point housed in that bunker, the bunker's current tenant confirmed they moved out "at least ten years ago".

Source is in Dutch only unfortunately: http://www.automatiseringgids.nl/nieuws ... -kloetinge
 
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The US is too busy for such things. The government seeks ways to "turn off" the internet at will, as well as ways to tell others around the planet what is and isn't appropriate content. Sure, piracy is a problem, but the government involvement regardless of sovereignty is a bit much. When the Republicans propose the "Envoy Act" again, and the US has a copyright agent in every embassy taking directions from media lobbyists, maybe someone else will finally think it's gotten a bit ridiculous.
 
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Mo'Handy[/url]":12s19o1b]This event could be a wake-up call to spammers and DDoS perps-- it is possible that the internet does not provide an impenetrable cloak of anonymity. Perps can be caught, after all.

Everyone can eventually be caught, it just takes having the methods available and putting all the pieces together. As time progresses, more things are exposed sometimes via the hubris of the culprits and sometimes via newer methods. People don't seem to realize that anonymity only exists when no one can find out anything at all about you. Bragging in tweets, IRC, on blogs, the internet, even coming out in public to deny or confirm things like this person did, reveals tiny clues, bits and pieces, that are eventually put together to form some sort of profile of the person and that happens because you never know what the others trying to profile you already know so those tiny clues could fill a spot in their puzzle that locks everything together.

I had a guy that ripped me off for something, back in the day when tricks with paypal could be used to take back payments for purchases and send fake payments. It took me almost five years, but using his little bits of information scattered around here and there in his posts on various forums I was able to gather enough information to eventually give me a name and address. I made it my mission to find this guy, looked at his posts on dozens of forums every day. Then I had his sorry butt arrested and it turned out he had done the same thing to others, so he ended up serving three years for fraud due to the information I had discovered plus he got sued and we got our money back. From various things I was able to find out the person was male, his various aliases used on the internet, and lots of various pieces of information but for a long time I had nothing to tie them all together. What really put the final piece in the puzzle was a picture he posted taken by him, in the picture according to his posts there was a friend of his with a local celebrity in Alaska taken, as he posted, "in front of my work" and I already knew (or least it was indicated) from various other posts other information that indicated the type of work he did and that he worked with "two others". There were no identifying landmarks or any names or anything identifying as to location in the picture but there was a time and date stamp in the picture and the posts revealed the name of the 'local celebrity'. Contacting the 'local celebrity' finally yielded the work location where the picture was taken at which only three people worked, one female and the other two male. One male at the work place was identified from the picture as the friend in the picture so it left the other guy at the work location as the rip off guy. That gave me a reasonable belief to take to the prosecutor, and it went from there.

Never assume simply because its the internet that anonymity exists. The most simple, smallest, seemingly unrelated things can be put together correctly eventually and you can be found.
 
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As Sven learned the hard way, a reporter is never your friend. Nothing is "off the record." Don't try to buddy up to them by telling secrets, even if you assume they already know. Unless you are some kind of dictator or corporate fat cat with the power to destroy them, they won't think twice about destroying you if they can get a good story out of it.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24376035#p24376035:buqesp46 said:
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=24375675#p24375675:buqesp46 said:
FoolioDisplasius[/url]":buqesp46]
he should still be presumed innocent until proven otherwise
It's a sad day when journalists have to remind us of the most basic principle of our justice system. Kudos to Ars for specifically pointing out that it does not endorse the kind of witch hunt triggered by articles of the big 3.

Except "presumed innocent until proven otherwise" is a LEGAL restriction on the conduct of the prosecution. It does not bind anyone else. Kamphius is a world-class scumbag by his own words and actions- whether you think we should all presume his innocence amidst all of his "I didn't do it, really, wink wink" posturing means nothing at all.

His attacks on Spamhaus alone make him worthy of my contempt, not to speak of his explicit support of "the right to send spam". So I fervently hope that SK is Kamphius, and I also hope he gets the book thrown at him.

You've got that exactly backward. Presumption of innocence applies to everyone EXCEPT the prosecution. The prosecutor's job is to overcome the presumption of innocence.
 
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