Pixel Realities: The New and Upcoming PC Monitor Thread

Which ROG displays did you choose for the sim setup? It looks immersive AF but the comment was likely referring to holding high FPS and high 1% lows at native rez. Seeing as how how “high FPS” is already heading towards 1,000FPS, or 480Hz on the low end, that statement holds true for lacking GPU grunt and upscaling capable of bringing much in the way of any title spooling so high.
They are MSI 322URX. I'm running them at native res, so 11520x2160 (with FPS capped to 224 to stay in VRR range) for the 1x3 arrangement and 3840x2160 for the extra.
 
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I am/was a fan of 21:9 ultrawide esp vs two monitors (hate bezels), but the current availability of large and inexpensive 16:9 4K monitors is easier (ie mainstream for games). The 5.2k ultrawides are interesting but I would prefer that consumer gear adjust to >4K including pushing the pixels via newest DisplayPort protocols. And when that happens there’ll be nice and roomy 16:9 or 16:10 monitors that are more mainstream for things like game support, windows support (text size and GUI assumptions), etc.

With monitor curves - I like a curved monitor but usually much much less than what seems to be common. I know variable/adjustible curve ones exist but they add complexity and failpoints and I’d probably not bother if non-adjustable alternative models were also available.
 

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Are 5ks really gaming displays? I suppose if you run them at half resolution but 4k gaming is still not a solved problem, if we are shooting for native res.
It has been a solved problem for years. I have been gaming on a 4K, 32" display since 2022 on a 3090. Older games run at 144Hz without problems and look stunning. Yes you won't get 144fps natively on every game, but graphics cards have gotten faster and upscaling technologies are improving all the time. It's still a major uplift relative to 1080p or 1440p.
 

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It has been a solved problem for years. I have been gaming on a 4K, 32" display since 2022 on a 3090. Older games run at 144Hz without problems and look stunning. Yes you won't get 144fps natively on every game, but graphics cards have gotten faster and upscaling technologies are improving all the time. It's still a major uplift relative to 1080p or 1440p.

You missed part of that post.
 

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Wow I didn't know it would be so easy!

I'm upgrading dual Apple Studio Displays connected to a MBP M4 Pro to a pair of 5K XDR. I was wavering on selling the old pair or moving them to my self-built Windows PC with a Nvidia RTX 4070 card but no Thunderbolt ports on the mobo. In the past, I had read it was difficult if not impossible to get them working on a PC without Thunderbolt. I had no idea all that was needed to make the displays work, along with their webcams and speakers, was a bidirectional Displayport to USB-C cable. Plugged them into my PC and everything just works. Twinkle Tray app works to control brightness.

Cable: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F9XTY49Y?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title
 
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Wow I didn't know it would be so easy!

I'm upgrading dual Apple Studio Displays connected to a MBP M4 Pro to a pair of 5K XDR. I was wavering on selling the old pair or moving them to my self-built Windows PC with a Nvidia RTX 4070 card but no Thunderbolt ports on the mobo. In the past, I had read it was difficult if not impossible to get them working on a PC without Thunderbolt. I had no idea all that was needed to make the displays work, along with their webcams and speakers, was a bidirectional Displayport to USB-C cable. Plugged them into my PC and everything just works. Twinkle Tray app works to control brightness.

Cable: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F9XTY49Y?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title
Congrats! I’d love to see these new displays in person, and to blind myself in their LED backlighted array glory of what, 2K nits? Awesome. Also, 5K @27” is a personal favorite size and resolution combo going back to the iMac days. You must be in HiDPI heaven there.

Are you doing anything to KVM between the two systems or just running one machine per monitor or swapping out on occasion?
 

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Got the pair of XDR yesterday. Both only work together at 5K HDR 60Hz with the M4 Pro MBPj 14", waiting for a M5 Max MBP to arrive. Unless there's a software glitch, I can't get one to so 120Hz and the other 60Hz. I do 90% of my computing needs on the MBP when travelling, and its attached to the dual displays when at home.

The old dual ASD are going to just be attached to a Windows machine, Intel 14700K, GTX 4070 super, 96GB DDR5 RAM. I built it for Windows 11 and Lightroom, but didn't know at the time how incredibly fast and efficient Apple's M chips are and how horrible Windows 11 has become. Lightroom relatively flies on the M4 Pro but struggles so bad on Windows. I only have one piece of software that requires Windows these days, so the machine sits unused most of the time. Silly that the system costs way more today than when I built it due to SSD and RAM prices.
 
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Got the pair of XDR yesterday. Both only work together at 5K HDR 60Hz with the M4 Pro MBPj 14", waiting for a M5 Max MBP to arrive. Unless there's a software glitch, I can't get one to so 120Hz and the other 60Hz. I do 90% of my computing needs on the MBP when travelling, and its attached to the dual displays when at home.

The old dual ASD are going to just be attached to a Windows machine, Intel 14700K, GTX 4070 super, 96GB DDR5 RAM. I built it for Windows 11 and Lightroom, but didn't know at the time how incredibly fast and efficient Apple's M chips are and how horrible Windows 11 has become. Lightroom relatively flies on the M4 Pro but struggles so bad on Windows. I only have one piece of software that requires Windows these days, so the machine sits unused most of the time. Silly that the system costs way more today than when I built it due to SSD and RAM prices.
Ya know, the dual-head 120Hz output isn’t surprising on an M4 Pro (lovely chip but they gimped the output capabilities to upsell people on the M4 Max) but it sounds like on your Windows rig you may not have GPU acceleration enabled in Lightroom. It should be fast, despite Adobe’s total shitshow of bugs atop of Microsoft’s, CS should still fly on that hardware. You might also be getting bottlenecked on IO if you don’t have a really fast SSD in the Win11 rig, as Lightroom and RAW files can get into swap territory really fast, even with 96GB assuming that you’ve built a sizable import or standing library for editing. I have a mostly hate-love relationship with that program regardless of OS for all of its quirks.

Anyhow, yeah, nothing is going to touch the M4 or M5 for IPC per watt. The Apple Silicon is truly impressive, and I hope that more native optimizations for Metal keep happening on other good software packages.

Well, enjoy the light show. I was just contemplating buying another OLED for a Godbox that I’m building. My M4 Max is pushing a 4K/240Hz QD-OLED quite merrily for most things but a personal experience in trying to get Nvidia-level denoising to work on the M4 Max being a failure led me to building a Windows box for heavy lifting once again. Shame as about 90% or more of my entire workflow was doing fine on the M4 Max, but GPU grunt just isn’t there yet. Perhaps 4-5 more generations they’ll offer some serious horsepower there. It sure seems like they’re signaling a steady trend that direction as the M5 Max should be about about 20% more GPU grunt than my maxed out M4 Max MBP has in it. Hope that you enjoy yours. That’s a nice setup.

Cheers