Pirates are already playing Forza Horizon 6 days before its launch

They should get ahead of it and just release it now. It's only a week early.
In a sensible world they would. Except they got greedy and they're charging people extra for "premium 4 days early access", so they can't release it early without undermining their own selling point.
 
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They should get ahead of it and just release it now. It's only a week early.
Unfortunately, part of the $120 edition is being able to play it four days earlier than everyone else, so they'd have to figure out a way to soothe those pre-ordering sucker egos early adopters.

For my part, I'm looking forward to picking it up for ~$20 in a couple years, assuming society still exists.
 
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Wait, the entire game is pre-loaded? I thought only sections of the games were pre-loaded, like textures and such. That seems so risky to let people download the entire game, even if encrypted, because of stuff like this.
In most cases the entire game is pre-loaded, but no it's not really that risky in the cases where people actually do upload encrypted assets as they are supposed to. It's not like cracking modern encryption is a simple matter, especially when you only got a week to do so.

As far as I know it's never happened that somebody actually decrypts the files early, the only incidents are cases like this where somebody uploads decrypted files by accident.
 
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In a sensible world they would. Except they got greedy and they're charging people extra for "premium 4 days early access", so they can't release it early without undermining their own selling point.
oh and here I was maybe having just a tiny speck of sympathy for the big corp, but now fuck em.
 
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In a sensible world they would. Except they got greedy and they're charging people extra for "premium 4 days early access", so they can't release it early without undermining their own selling point.
As someone who bought that version, I don't care. Give those people an extra free car token thing or something and tell them to get over it. That was a preorder bonus of that version. The actual value of that version is getting the expansions.
 
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Forza Horizon 4 was one of my few driving game purchase regrets. After that I had no interest in any others.

It isn't how arcady it is, I like the Flat Out games. It is how unpredictable the handling is with a wheel, understandable since it is a console controller game.
FH4 wasn't good, but FH5 was fantastic.
 
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Wow I haven't heard the term "cracker" in a month of Sundays! Well, as used in this context. These days most reporting just uses "hacker" for everything.
Fun ... in very old days, hacker did not exist. Cracker did. Talking about eighties, early nineties of you can guess what century.
Tried myself, cracking a copy protection, effectively learning 68000 assembly with it (yes, Atari ST). There always has to be a switch, where one party is sent in, and the other out. There were also (later,) little scandals outside cp, when MS did stuff to stop debugging in early MS vs PC-Dos, starting windows 3(.11? may be earlier). Entertaining, but very time intensive, so I quit and did more real programming, even got me a job. Have no clue what the tricks are these days, but I'm sure they are awesome, but not simply for sale..
 
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You know what really blows? It’s that sh¡t like this leads to more leniency for DRMs to dig deeper into the hole making it more and more difficult for legit buyers to enjoy their games we’ve properly paid for.

i don’t particularly believe Denuvo’s claim of 20% reduction in revenue because many people who pirate either wouldn’t have bought the game in the first place or will buy the game at a reduced price at some point in the future. The one’s putting out YT videos and making noise on social media are only doing it for clout.
 
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Fun ... in very old days, hacker did not exist. Cracker did. Talking about eighties, early nineties of you can guess what century.
Tried myself, cracking a copy protection, effectively learning 68000 assembly with it (yes, Atari ST). There always has to be a switch, where one party is sent in, and the other out. There were also (later,) little scandals outside cp, when MS did stuff to stop debugging in early MS vs PC-Dos, starting windows 3(.11? may be earlier). Entertaining, but very time intensive, so I quit and did more real programming, even got me a job. Have no clue what the tricks are these days, but I'm sure they are awesome, but not simply for sale..
I could have sworn I'd heard the term "hacker" before the 90's, so I had to look up it's etymology, and apparently it was used earliest in 1975, and gained wider usage in the mid-80's.
 
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Seriously? Has actual consistency? If so, I might give it a go.

I should clarify that I am on a PC, not a console.

FH4 was just frustrating more than enjoyable, though it did have elements where it could have been great.
I played through 5 on PC twice. I can't remember anything from 4 other than I was disappointed. I don't remember why, but 4 didn't do it for me or my buddy I played with.
 
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