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OpenAI feels “burned” by Apple’s crappy ChatGPT integration, insiders say
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Sam Altman complaining about missing "honest efforts" of others is beyond ironic...
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I don't want AI integration. In anything. Period. I'm not alone. Someone, give the customer what they want, please.
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(I know, the tech bros need to boost usage metrics to continue their destructive grift but stop trying to make me an accomplice)
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The ChatGPT integration goes exactly as far as I, an Apple customer, would ever want it to: completely optional and not in my face. I hope this continues when they integrate Gemini into their "smarter Siri" otherwise I will just be disabling Siri completely.
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Never once have I looked at any of my apple devices and thought "I wish this had more AI"
So, good job Apple. I guess.
So, good job Apple. I guess.
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openAI is going to sue Apple for breach of contract?
That sounds like a brave strategy.
That sounds like a brave strategy.
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Speaking for myself, I had the ChatGPT app on my Mac and I removed it after Altman's OpenAI rushed to replace Anthropic's Claude when the latter got out of its contract with the US Army. I replaced ChatGPT with Claude on my Mac and I suspect that many more people did the same. Altman is coming out as a greedy little twerp willing to lie and cut throats to get his way. This kind of lawsuit will certainly not endear him or his company to the Mac community.
With all the information that has been coming out in the last few months about Altman, one wonders what is Jony Ive doing getting himself involved with this individual. Let's hope he walks away from any deal he ever made with Altman. It's not like he needs money... Save your reputation, Ive, and walk away from Altman. This guy is toxic.
With all the information that has been coming out in the last few months about Altman, one wonders what is Jony Ive doing getting himself involved with this individual. Let's hope he walks away from any deal he ever made with Altman. It's not like he needs money... Save your reputation, Ive, and walk away from Altman. This guy is toxic.
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ubercurmudgeon
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Time for a sequel to Pirates of Silicon Valley entitled Whiny Little Bitches of Silicon Valley.
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The Apple implementation is great... I've never seen it come up, and never want it to. In contrast, on my work PC I'm constantly bombarded by Copilot popups and widgets and crap that I never enabled and am unable to disable.
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With OpenAI revenues being just a tiny fraction of their expenses, they're hoping to use a flimsy pretext to extract a few billion from Apple in some settlement in an attempt to keep the lights on a little while longer.
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I mean, you can turn off the google integrations to Mac OS with a simple toggle to choose some other search provider.
Did OpenAI really think that Apple was going to make their product front and centre on Apple products without them paying more than Google levels of payments?
Did OpenAI really think that Apple was going to make their product front and centre on Apple products without them paying more than Google levels of payments?
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Oh, no!
Poor OpenAI...
My heart bleeds for them, truly.
It's so unfortunate that Apple is considering what they believe to be best for themselves and their users rather than for Sam Altman. But yeah, go off threatening to sue them. That 1% drop in their share price after the news broke is probably more money than your entire company would be worth if it were being honestly valued.
Poor OpenAI...
My heart bleeds for them, truly.
It's so unfortunate that Apple is considering what they believe to be best for themselves and their users rather than for Sam Altman. But yeah, go off threatening to sue them. That 1% drop in their share price after the news broke is probably more money than your entire company would be worth if it were being honestly valued.
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It is useless at best, creates a lot of extra work and wrong things at beat, being a money and time pit.
Fuck em.
Fuck em.
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Oh no, poor OpenAI, Apple won't force their LLM slop onto iPhone users! Whatever will they do now that they won't immediately and effortlessly harvest all that juicy, private data? Oh the AI-ity!
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"Am [the companies] out of touch?
...no, it's the customers who are wrong."
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The invective directed at the AI Tech Bros by everyone reacting to this article is so comforting. It also shows you how delusional Sam Altman is. I can't believe he actually bought into the idea that Apple would do what he wanted it to do. Maybe he learned to drop ketamine from Musk?
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This. OpenAI apparently believed ChatGPT should have been added as always-on-by-default and shoehorned into every possible nook-and-crannie in the OS. Apple, instead, took the consumer-friendly approach (short of not adding it at all, of course.)
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Idk, I feel like agreeing to the partnership before knowing what the end state would look like, and then being surprised that Apple isn't giving you a frictionless (and I assume invisible to the user) road to the tens of millions of users is just a terrible strategy.
Apple broke the old carrier model to kick out the carrier installed bloatware. Did OpenAI really think they wouldn't reach the same fate? That Apple would really give up their brand control on the device?
Apple broke the old carrier model to kick out the carrier installed bloatware. Did OpenAI really think they wouldn't reach the same fate? That Apple would really give up their brand control on the device?
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Unless there are actual concrete conditions of the contract Apple failed to fulfill, I don't know what possible legal action OpenAI expects to take. 'They did what they said they'd do but it wasn't what we imagined' isn't grounds for a lawsuit.
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I vaguely understand all of that except the “could make smartphones obsolete” part. Ignoring the total lack of interest I have in using any LLM-based functionality, that “capability” still seems like just a feature or an app that runs on a smartphone, and not something that fills the roles of tens of thousand of other apps. It’s like claiming “Office” is going to make PCs obsolete. I’ll guess the smartphone will live on (though admittedly fewer use the “phone” aspect than used to), and to the extent it mutates into something noticeably different, I’m sure Apple will be there, taking their piece.
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Yes, by all means, Sam... further distract yourselves and drain company funds by suing a multi-trillion dollar company with completely stupid accusations. This will likely yield a good result for Apple customers (namely, you not getting what you want).
Also, as others have said, the idea of you — known primarily for your ability to manipulate and lie to your own people to get what you want — calling out another company for being dishonest is hilarious. Get bent, you sociopath.
Also, as others have said, the idea of you — known primarily for your ability to manipulate and lie to your own people to get what you want — calling out another company for being dishonest is hilarious. Get bent, you sociopath.
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Oh, my. Apple didn't make it easy for users to use ChatGPT without asking to do so and without knowing it was happening?
After searching my feelings, I'm not mad, bro.
After searching my feelings, I'm not mad, bro.
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Yes, sir. We'd like to open ourselves up to even more embarrassing discovery reveals!
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I am intentionally running older tech that either makes AI optional, or incapable.
At this point the risk of running out of date software seems less than allowing AI to crawl all over my system, with my private data on hardware I paid for.
The race to take away all of our freedoms, jobs, economic prosperity, literally everything for a dystopian techno feudal future is too fast. I would sooner go without than agree to use this garbage.
I expect a discount to use forced AI computers, what benefit does this garbage have for me?
At this point the risk of running out of date software seems less than allowing AI to crawl all over my system, with my private data on hardware I paid for.
The race to take away all of our freedoms, jobs, economic prosperity, literally everything for a dystopian techno feudal future is too fast. I would sooner go without than agree to use this garbage.
I expect a discount to use forced AI computers, what benefit does this garbage have for me?
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As a fellow Apple Customer, I think it goes too far.
I am ok with there being integrations. I am not OK with the degree to which it keeps nagging you to turn on Apple Intelligence, and the fact that it downloads all the files for the models, even if you've never set it up.
These are not small files, they take up a significant amount of space on machines with smaller drives, and those files add 0-value if have chosen to abstain from using AI on that machine. Making the downloading of the resources contingent upon the user having set up and enabled AI makes a lot more sense than the current set up.
So if Altman is wanting Apple's AI integrations to be even more obnoxious and pervasive, well, he can fuck all the way off a cliff - Wile E. Coyote style.
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Most people don't seem to want AI crammed into their devices and software, I'd imagin they were affraid of backlash. Considering how OpenAI is one the main culprits for memory, gpu, and storage price surges and by extension phone prices.
I turned all the Apple Intelligence stuff off and Siri is completely disabled. Every time there is an update I make sure they haven't tried reenabling any of it.
I turned all the Apple Intelligence stuff off and Siri is completely disabled. Every time there is an update I make sure they haven't tried reenabling any of it.
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Openly complaining that they want it to be more annoying and nonconsensual is just classic AI bro.
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Erm, IME gemini remains the most frequently wrong LLM money doesn't but.
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