Of course you want Hieronymus Bosch action figures from heaven and hell

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Hydrargyrum

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This website is an extraordinarily awesome commentary & high res explorable version of the Garden of Earthly Delights. It has a bunch of audio commentary tracks. Like a guided tour at a museum which allows you to get unreasonably close to the work. Or an interactive documentary.

Warning: it does have audio (obviously)


https://tuinderlusten-jheronimusbosch.ntr.nl/en#

EDIT: Never mind, it's linked in the article!

Well, consider this post just as an endorsement of the site, anyway. It really is best-in-class for art delivery via HTTP.
 
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I thought these were going to be action figures from Amazon's Bosch with Season 3 coming up.

Ha! Glad to see I wasn't the only one. I just started reading the books after having watched the Amazon series and was trying to puzzle out who the hell would want a Hieronymus Bosh action figure. And then I was enlightened.
 
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These don't seem like they have any moving parts, so aren't they just "figures" and not "action figures"?

Most of them got some action in their day, which is why they are in their current forms.

My son is going to love these, and the challenge of painting them. I am not so sure how keen my DIL will be to decorate the house with them, so i expect i will be looking at a few of them next year, and ruminating more on my closeness to finding out if that is an accurate rendition of my post-earthly future.
 
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Overheard from a denizen of Bosch hellscape; "Youbetcha hell is hot, hot as hell! But it's a dry heat."
Who knew hell had so many awesome, quirky creatures and subhumans? Perhaps these were thought-provoking and a deterrent in in the 15th century, but should they appear suddenly on Earth today they would simply be fanciful curiosities.
 
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I have an art background and made a point of seeing his work in person. Amazing stuff with so much imagination. No one had ever done anything quite like it before.

There are often paintings or stone carvings in cathedrals that have scenes of the Last Judgement or other scenes of the blessed or the damned and without fail, the damned are always more interesting. They are so creative in what happens to the fallen but Bosch took it a step further and really, truly made the others, such as the birth of Eve (left side of painting) super interesting too. Adam looks at Eve and kind of says to God, "That's for me!?!"

That said, I look at these figurines as kind of cheap. Yes, later generations can take the work and run with it but this just seems lost without the context of the painting. But if others like it, so be it, and enjoy but make sure to study the original in detail to really understand what you're buying.

That link to the interactive website is an excellent place to start and have in the past given it to friends and family.

(one last note: In the lower right of Michelangelo's last judgement, there is a figure with donkey's ears getting his privates bitten by a snake. That's is Biagio de Cesena, one of the pope's guys, who annoyed Michelangelo. Everyone recognized Cesena and he complained to the pope. Il Papa told him to get over it. Link here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... angelo.jpg)
 
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I have an art background and made a point of seeing his work in person. Amazing stuff with so much imagination. No one had ever done anything quite like it before.

There are often paintings or stone carvings in cathedrals that have scenes of the Last Judgement or other scenes of the blessed or the damned and without fail, the damned are always more interesting. They are so creative in what happens to the fallen but Bosch took it a step further and really, truly made the others, such as the birth of Eve (left side of painting) super interesting too. Adam looks at Eve and kind of says to God, "That's for me!?!"

That said, I look at these figurines as kind of cheap. Yes, later generations can take the work and run with it but this just seems lost without the context of the painting. But if others like it, so be it, and enjoy but make sure to study the original in detail to really understand what you're buying.

That link to the interactive website is an excellent place to start and have in the past given it to friends and family.

(one last note: In the lower right of Michelangelo's last judgement, there is a figure with donkey's ears getting his privates bitten by a snake. That's is Biagio de Cesena, one of the pope's guys, who annoyed Michelangelo. Everyone recognized Cesena and he complained to the pope. Il Papa told him to get over it. Link here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... angelo.jpg)

Does that painting look like a mosaic of Darth Vader to anyone else?
 
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My son is going to love these, and the challenge of painting them. I am not so sure how keen my DIL will be to decorate the house with them, so i expect i will be looking at a few of them next year, and ruminating more on my closeness to finding out if that is an accurate rendition of my post-earthly future.
These come pre-painted, in case being able to paint them was part of the attraction. (A big part of the reason they're so expensive.)
 
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While we're on the topic of Hieronymus Bosch, I can strongly recommend the Jheronimus Bosch Art Center in Den Bosch. The paintings are replicas (but who cares, really?) but they've got literally *all* Bosch paintings, and the location, background information, and staff were wonderful.

One of the best museums I've visited. Certainly a lot better than many better known museums with endless boring paintings of flowers, portraits, and similarly *extremely* dull paintings.
 
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mirthful1

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So this has nothing to do with Harry Bosch from the series of Connolly novels??

FWIW, the fictitious "Harry" Bosch (Harry being short for Hieronymus) was named after the Dutch artist. My late brother was a huge fan of those books and Hieronymus (or a variation) was always his online name.
 
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Overheard from a denizen of Bosch hellscape; "Youbetcha hell is hot, hot as hell! But it's a dry heat."
Who knew hell had so many awesome, quirky creatures and subhumans? Perhaps these were thought-provoking and a deterrent in in the 15th century, but should they appear suddenly on Earth today they would simply be fanciful curiosities.

Some of those figures are from heaven and the garden of Eden, too. Bosch covered all the bases.

I believe the figures are rich in symbolism, not all of which has survived since the painting was made. Wikipedia has a decent introduction to this particular work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Garde ... y_Delights
 
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My son is going to love these, and the challenge of painting them. I am not so sure how keen my DIL will be to decorate the house with them, so i expect i will be looking at a few of them next year, and ruminating more on my closeness to finding out if that is an accurate rendition of my post-earthly future.
These come pre-painted, in case being able to paint them was part of the attraction. (A big part of the reason they're so expensive.)

Well, I probably will not be musing on my mortality gazing at one of these. I will just have to settle for listening for Times Winged Chariot. I already have as gifts a Kraken, and a skeletal Gummy Bear.
 
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Overheard from a denizen of Bosch hellscape; "Youbetcha hell is hot, hot as hell! But it's a dry heat."
Who knew hell had so many awesome, quirky creatures and subhumans? Perhaps these were thought-provoking and a deterrent in in the 15th century, but should they appear suddenly on Earth today they would simply be fanciful curiosities.
Ever walked Hollywood Blvd or Times Square?

These guys would be street performers at BEST. :D
 
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I always thought the pink-flesh colored Paradise Fountain looked like a uterus and Fallopian tubes, which would make sense given it references human creation. Makes me wonder if Bosch had access to dissected corpses, as so many Renaissance artists did. In his era, I suspect that sort of thing could have gotten you burned as a witch.
 
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eviladrian

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Why did you have to show me this?
Now all my money is gone!

For real though, these all look great!

While you're on Amazon, you might want to check out Ian Watson's The Gardens of Delight, a whimsically literal story about people who find themselves on an alchemical journey through the triptych: https://www.amazon.com/Gardens-Delight- ... 1904853455
 
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"He was a member of a conservative Christian organization in his hometown, but that may have been more of a social rather than spiritual pursuit."
Of course, we must assume that he could not have been serious about that, right? Doesn't fit our 21st century 'enlightened' world view.

There is actual debate about this, since so little information is known. Similar to did the Nazi join the party just for his professional career, or personal views debate.
 
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Dutch artist ???
The guy lived here: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertogdom ... bant_(1350).svg

I had no notion of the concept Dutch. He was Brabantian, and lived in the Burgundian Netherlands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgundian_Netherlands. As such, he was ruled from Leuven or Brussels.

Hence you should call him a Low countries artist, born in present day Netherlands.
The main meaning of Dutch in English is literally "born in the Netherlands," present-day or otherwise (the same as Nederlander), so I'm confused by your objection. Historically, that's true of the Dutch language too. Netherlander never caught on in English; we call your neighbors Germans instead of Deutsche/Duitser, so there's no confusion.

I believe Bosch would call himself a Nederlanscher (as Nederlander was then spelled) rather than a Brabanter to a foreigner; it was a time of great regional pride.
 
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I just love it! Most likely he was high on moldy Rye bread. A common affection in this time period.

"One of the most common grain fungi is called ergot, and it contains a chemical called ergotamine, which is used to make lysergic acid--not LSD itself, but one of the precursor chemicals, which can have similarly trip effects."
 
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[url=https://arstechnica.co.uk/civis/viewtopic.php?p=33099007#p33099007:2p5l7p6s said:
bmcage[/url]":2p5l7p6s]Dutch artist ???
The guy lived here: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertogdom ... bant_(1350).svg

I had no notion of the concept Dutch. He was Brabantian, and lived in the Burgundian Netherlands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgundian_Netherlands. As such, he was ruled from Leuven or Brussels.

Hence you should call him a Low countries artist, born in present day Netherlands.

It's true that at Bosch' time this wasn't part of "the Netherlands" as we know it today, but the history of the Netherlands is long and complex, with many different rulers over the centuries.

Bosch was born in Den Bosch – he's even named after it – which is well within the modern Netherlands; he spoke Dutch, and is culturally very much linked to the modern Netherlands.
So in that sense he's "Dutch", even though that's not strictly true if we're pedantic.

If we apply the pedantic meaning, we couldn't really call vast swathes of people "Dutch" (or, for that matter, "German", "French", or many other nationalities) even though in the more common-sense meaning they obviously are linked to that modern nationality.

There is obviously a point where you need to use more historical terms; e.g. a Roman living in modern-day Netherlands 2,000 years ago isn't really "Dutch", but it seems to me that Bosch is well past that point, and that he can be safely classified as "Dutch".
 
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