New Noctua 140mm Fan: NF-A14x25 G2 PWM

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I've been a fan-boi of Noctua fans, back from when "you could have them in any color you wanted-- also long as it was brown".

I was noodling around their website after writing a complaint, about never receiving the FREE parts to upgrade a NH-L9a-AM4, L-Type Low Profile Cooler to Socket AM5 with the "NM-AM5-L9aL9i mounting-kit required (free of charge)".

That's when I noticed that the NF-A14 is now obsolescent. The NF-A14 has been my goto fan for many builds (those in cases it could fit). That big, slow, moving 140mm fan could move a lot of air--quietly.

The NF-A14 G2 PMW looks to be the same treatment that resulted in the NF-A12x25 PWM 120mm fan which has been around at least a few years now? I only recently did a build with with them in a narrow case. They've only just started getting cheap enough to work with.

The NF-A14 G2 PMW is "out there" now, but its not cheap. I note that this fan is showing-up on Noctua's latest CPU coolers like the NH-D15 G2 using the round fan enclosure.

Any of you deep-pocketed guys that do a build with them as case fans-- post pics!
 
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Well in something like a old school Phanteks Enthoo Pro (Anandtech), sounds like 3x140mm's are almost a given (2x front intake, 1x rear exhaust). Top clearance for a 140mm-fan radiator looks like it might be dicey due to memory slot position/actual DIMM clearance (Reddit) otherwise I'd say it would be a good candidate for up to 3x more 140mm at the top-- spec says 65mm clearance so even a thick 38mm radiator and 25mm fan should work but maybe not? (and I guess there's the bottom but in my experience you rarely need that much fan).

Something more modern like a Silverstone Seta D1 (Techpowerup), with no 5.25" bays installed, could take up to 4x140mm (up to 3x front intake, 1x rear exhaust) plus up to two more 140mm at the top. Radiator fitment looks tighter (manual), says up to 58mm thick at top, plus some additional consideration for drive cages and possible memory module interference beyond that.

Anyway... yeah. Even something more conventional like a Lian-Li Lancool 207 (Techpowerup) looks like you are doing at most 4x140mm...
 
Well in something like a old school Phanteks Enthoo Pro (Anandtech), sounds like 3x140mm's are almost a given (2x front intake, 1x rear exhaust). Top clearance for a 140mm-fan radiator looks like it might be dicey due to memory slot position/actual DIMM clearance (Reddit) otherwise I'd say it would be a good candidate for up to 3x more 140mm at the top-- spec says 65mm clearance so even a thick 38mm radiator and 25mm fan should work but maybe not? (and I guess there's the bottom but in my experience you rarely need that much fan).

Something more modern like a Silverstone Seta D1 (Techpowerup), with no 5.25" bays installed, could take up to 4x140mm (up to 3x front intake, 1x rear exhaust) plus up to two more 140mm at the top. Radiator fitment looks tighter (manual), says up to 58mm thick at top, plus some additional consideration for drive cages and possible memory module interference beyond that.

Anyway... yeah. Even something more conventional like a Lian-Li Lancool 207 (Techpowerup) looks like you are doing at most 4x140mm...
just a side note that in my most recent build with Ryzen 78003D, I had a 360mm AIO cooler for the CPU.
When I built it I realised that each fan had its own connector and it didn't have a splitter handy or enough ports on the motherboard so I left the cooler with a single 120mm fan... for about 18 months until I sold the computer.

One does not generally need tons of fans for optimal performance. Even with GPU considered I don't see more than 3 fans vastly improving performance - yeah maybe the case will be a bit cooler but as long as CPU and GPU don't throttle (i.e. 80-90C), I don't see an issue running the case slightly warmer.
 
One does not generally need tons of fans for optimal performance. Even with GPU considered I don't see more than 3 fans vastly improving performance - yeah maybe the case will be a bit cooler but as long as CPU and GPU don't throttle (i.e. 80-90C), I don't see an issue running the case slightly warmer.
The 7800X3D generally ran at about 80 watts, plus whatever your video card was doing, probably ~200W.

Compare that to an Intel CPU (250 watts peak) with a new 5090 (600 watts peak) and you've gotten into a whole new category of heat load, about three times as much. You're likely to want multiple fans, so you can keep the system relatively quiet by spinning them slowly.

And even if you're considering a saner heat load like the one you had, multiple fans can still be substantially quieter, since they can often be at the slowest speed the motherboard supports.
 
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Yep that's the way I go. 7 A14 G2s and 3 A12s in my case. Fan curve is 300rpm idle, 500rpm full load. My OC'd 4090 doesn't get over 65C at full load because of the massive case airflow, even with the GPU fans set to the minimum fan rpm (~800). The only thing I actually hear while gaming is the coil whine as the airflow noise is imperceptible lol.
 
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7 A14 G2s and 3 A12s in my case.
At first that seemed like a lot, but then I thought about it, and realized I'm running six fans myself. I can hear it, the three fans on the AIO do spin up a bit, but it's not at all irritating. I could probably reduce the noise, but the heat levels are real nice on this 5800X3D, generally high 70s at worst, and the 4080S seems happy, rarely spinning its own fans up terribly high. I haven't bothered with checking its actual temperature, since it doesn't sound like it's working hard.
 

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I ended up buying one to throw into a North XL as an exhaust, along with the two that came with a D15 G2 (which I didn't purchase myself). I don't have pictures because I sliced three fingers open on cardboard during the build and was too enraged to mess with my phone. But it's exactly what you would expect from Noctua: A really solid, ugly fan with an overwhelming amount of accessories, which is quieter than the stock fans at every RPM. I keep it in the 20-50% PWM range and it's completely silent. Running at full blast it has a not-offensive turbine whooosh sound signature, versus the Fractal Aspect 140mm fans which are more like a plastic bag filled with angry buzzy wasps once they pass 1000rpm.
 
I don't have pictures because I sliced three fingers open on cardboard during the build and was too enraged to mess with my phone.

Its the Millennial Mantra: "If you ain't got no pics... It never happened."

Just like nobody believes you had an evening of pleasure with those two super models , that night in Vegas back in 1985 when you still had hair and a 32" waistline, cuz there were no pics-- I'm skeptical about you forking out US$40 for a "Super Fan" and not documenting it, because you got a Boo Boo?

Back in the day, there was an Ars dude that lost two fingers to the razor sharp metal edges inside a RAIDMAX tower while doing a build. He zip-tied the stumps, with one hand and his teeth, put his separated fingers on ice, finished the build, and posted pics. Then he went to the ER.

There was a small pool of drying blood visible on that RAIDMAX's case floor in the interior shots.

Consider this Positive Pressure?

But it's exactly what you would expect from Noctua: A really solid, ugly fan with an overwhelming amount of accessories, which is quieter than the stock fans at every RPM.

True dat.

You forgot to mention the awesome Customer Service, and the awesome written technical collateral. For example: NF-A14x25(r) G2 performance: improvements for heatsinks, radiators and cases However, it seems that most folks on Ars now eschew the written word, and can only quote YouTubes on anything with numbers involved?

versus the Fractal Aspect 140mm fans which are more like a plastic bag filled with angry buzzy wasps once they pass 1000rpm.

True dat.

I can honestly say, "I have never had a Noctua fan fail on me." I have a crate of pulls full of crap fans that were bundled in cheap and even expensive computer cases. (The old timey RAIDMAX cases had the worst fans.) They range from sounding like a vigorously applied, in-use, cocktail shaker full of nuts and bolts to almost brown (now sometimes black or grey) Austrian silence.

Nothing beats a Noctua fan. There are fans out there that push more air, but if you need a fan that's quiet and pushes a lot of air-- Noctua. They're the fans everyone else tries to beat.
 
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I got a substantial unexpected payout of unused vacation time recently, so I decided to splurge and grab a trio of Noctua A12 fans for my Meshify C case to replace the occasionally noisy mix of Fractal/Arctic Cooling fans (2 front intake, 1 rear exhaust). As I was about to put them in my cart, I noticed that Newegg now carried the P12 Redux fans, which don't come with as many accessories and are now grey instead of brown/beige for a much more reasonable price. I finally got around to installing them last night, and set the intake fans to 70% and the exhaust to 90% continuously. All I hear now in my case under load is a pleasant whoosh sound that stays constant and pleasant, and I wondered why I didn't do this sooner!
 
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If you're a Noctua fan boi and also doing regular builds, you'll know that the NF-A14x25 G2 PWM is in short supply, and being scalped besides.

I myself was fooled by the enshittification of one of The Usual Suspects. In my eagerness to get one, I bought a NF-A14x25 G2 LS-PWM, the "Low Speed" version at a very low-price. Unlike some of The Usual Suspects, that respond to a quoted string ("NF-A14x25 G2 PWM") with "NO STOCK", they put a product nobody in their right mind would buy, at the top of list. Hence its availability and low price, which I reflexively clicked on, in a burst of instant gratification due to next day delivery.

Note that the products look the same, have almost identical sales collateral, and their Product ID only differs by three (3) characters.

In this day of ubiquitous, fan controllers both hardware and software why would anyone neuter a very quiet and performant part like the NF-A14x25 G2 PWM to a max of 800 RPM? Its even more confusing that the low-speed part has the same MSRP as the 1500 RPM regular model?

However, I digress?

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The Evil Usual Suspect's tactic of bait and switch, and Noctua's product differentiation, made me think "There is a NF-A14x25 G2 PWM 'out there' for me under a different Product ID?" That product was the NF-A14x25 G2 PWM Sx2-PP.

You can read about it yourself. Still I now have two (2) NF-A14x25 G2 PWMs at a lower unit price than the single part, which is out-of-stock everywhere. The fans in the box are separately labeled NF-A14x25 G2 PMW PPA and PPB. There is no indication which of the two is the faster by ~25 RPM. However, I'm only using them as case fans under PMW fan control-- what does it matter?

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HTH to youse guys still doing builds out there?
 

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Anyone else try these new fans? They look to be more available now. I need maybe 6 more 140mm fans if I use the non-Noctuas that came with my case.

But that’s maybe $260 if I got three of the 2-packs. Then I see Arctic P14 Pro five-packs for $40 and I wonder about those since I’d still have non-Noctua’s in my case anyway.
 

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I've got a pile of them but haven't gotten around to testing yet, and honestly the testing environment I will have for these is not going to be quiet enough to give any meaningful impressions in this forum.

But that’s maybe $260 if I got three of the 2-packs. Then I see Arctic P14 Pro five-packs for $40 and I wonder about those since I’d still have non-Noctua’s in my case anyway.
Not specifically sure about the Arctic P14 Pro, but I know HwBusters likes the Arctic P14 Max at medium noise levels, so you may be close on alternatives that are much more cost-effective.

https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-case-heatsink-radiator-fan-picks-hardware-busters/
 
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I really like Noctua fans in general (no experience with this specific model0, but good god they're expensive.

Nice business to be in, if you can manage it. Their products are very well designed, but lordy they must have a huge margin on them.

edit: of course, there's also the argument that the fans almost never break, they have an excellent chance of outliving their buyers, so there's not going to be much of a replacement market. Once they've sold a fan, that particular problem is solved permanently. They may need to charge a mint, since any further purchases you make will be for new machines, not the existing ones.

edit: fixed a typo.
 
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I'm not so sure about the huge margins. Noctua presumably employ a reasonable number of people in Austria, with Austrian salaries and employment benefits. Plus their R&D bill must be entertainingly large, seeing how long it takes to bring their products to market.

Plus, with a Noctua fan you expect extremely good QC, and that is another expensive thing to achieve.

I'm sure they're doing fine, and the gross margin on any given sale may well be decent, but the cost of manuafacture is of course not the only cost.

I tend to put them into computers that are running 24/7, I'm more sanguine about fan failures in PCs.
 
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I had previously purchased a 120mm Noctua fan, and I do have to say that their accessories are luxurious (I used the extension cable that came with that fan). If I recall they ship a splitter, an extension, and an LS cable (don’t know if that’s replaced by the LS models now though).

I keep seeing these Noctua fans back in stock (and out of stock). But on amazon they’re being sold by Noctua and they have availability here and there.
 

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I have 10 (now that I type that, I realize I have spent a great amount of money on fans...) in my current HS420 build. 8 on radiators and 2 as case fans. They work well, they're quiet, my system stays cool. No QA misses on any of them like I've had with some fans in the past. I've had them since they released and no issues from them so far.

Is it better than a cheaper fan? Most likely, but probably not at the cost differential per fan, hah.
 
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And fans can be re-used forever! Like monitors and fittings and radiators!! D5 pumps and reservoirs too. CPU blocks to a lesser extent if cross gen changes not much and if you can get updated mounting kit. I guess a good case should also live forever (thinking of @steelghost ’s small Fractal Node).
 

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And fans can be re-used forever! Like monitors and fittings and radiators!! D5 pumps and reservoirs too. CPU blocks to a lesser extent if cross gen changes not much and if you can get updated mounting kit.
Well only to a point. Bearings do wear out.

/me eyeballs his stacks and stacks of dead fans

I guess a good case should also live forever (thinking of @steelghost ’s small Fractal Node).
This is (mostly) true.
 
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Well only to a point. Bearings do wear out.
Fluid bearings show little to no wear from use, although some types get some wear at startup and shutdown. IIUC, the rifle bearing variants (a type of FDB) that Noctua uses don't really show wear at all, even during startup.

I'm not sure if that includes crazy angles, though. I have a vague idea that some FDBs can show wear if they're not oriented either horizontally or vertically. But I'm not sure which ones or which angles.

Sleeve bearings are the cheapest, and will usually last one to two years of continuous usage. Single ball-bearing fans are better, and I think will last about three. Double ball bearings last five years or longer; they were the quality option for a long time. Fluid bearings can often last as long as their seals hold up, at least at an orthogonal angle. Again, some types show startup and shutdown wear, and are best used continuously, and I believe some types are unhappy mounted at a diagonal.
 
Looking at that linked website's "Partner" section was interesting. Noctua has been placing their fans in Seasonic PSUs and Asus GPUs.

The prices of these co-branded parts seems high to me. That's given that without the Noctua fans, the fans in the base product have already been of high-quality. Using Noctua fans feels like gilding the lily?

Also, Brown Fan Nazis are going to love to hate, no matter where they find them.
 
I had just decided to add two 140mm exhaust fans to my ultra quiet PC build, for clarity my standard for quietness is it should be very difficult or impossible to tell whether the PC is even on, so I thought I should get these supposedly "best fans"

I was thoroughly disappointed

while waiting for these Noctuas to arrive, out of curiosity I went and picked up some Silent Wings 4 from a local micro center which worked incredibly well, they have a maximum fan speed that's just barely tolerable in noise (spec says 13.6dba) which is great because most motherboards will boost the fan to full speed at startup, so it is important you're not too reliant on PWM to drop the speeds.
The build quality of the fans is also impeccable I love how the screw holes are fully suspended and isolated from the rest of the frame, guaranteeing there is no vibration transfer to the rest of the case. The cable is amazing, it is soft, it is black, it is long but also the frame is designed perfectly such that any extra cable can be easily wrapped around the fan neatly.

then when the Noctuas finally arrived, NF-A14X25 G2 PP, I tested it, and it was SO LOUD
the specs say 24.8db, I don't know if I've just come accustomed to ultra quiet computers or what but I felt it was intolerably loud, even in open air with no obstructions, you can easily hear it anywhere in the room, while wearing headphones which is just unacceptable to me. It does come with the low noise adapter sure but even with that it is still quite loud, so turning on the PC will definitely still give me an unmistakable woosh of fan noise.
In fact the Noctuas are so loud they're significantly louder than the SW4 at same RPM, it is still louder at 200 lower RPM. To be fair the Noctua also blows harder, but without any measurement equipment, it is hard to tell if there's any difference in noise-normalized performance. From what I can find online, the Noctua can do 60CFM at 20dba, but the SW4 maxes out under 20dba at ~50CFM, so I'd say they're about the same if noise-normalized.

Without any performance advantage, the Noctua just loses at everything else in my opinion. The cable still has that super stiff sleeve which causes the cable to just fold instead of bending smoothly, I doubt that's actually good for the cable. The cable is super short, there's no built-in cable management like the SW4. And the final nail in the coffin, rubber pads aren't doing it no more, it may be revolutionary 20 years ago when no one else was trying to be quiet, but today, a stiff frame right up against steel case with a flat sheet of rubber in-between ain't gonna isolate the low-frequency noise fans like this produce. I believe when mounted to my case, the Noctua just produces more noise due to vibration transfer where as the SW4 does not.

To me, Noctua has become an outdated status brand rather than real cutting edge engineering, it's like the Leica camera, the Mercedes-Benz, the fact that they keep using the brown color is proof they know their brand value is higher than their engineering/performance value.
 
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What fan were you comparing them against? You say SW4 but I'm not clear exactly what that is.

As far as performance advantage... they technically do have one, but I think it's pretty clear from the benchmarks that you're paying 2x or 3x or 4x the cost for tiny, tiny fractions in performance. LCP rotors and whatnot are not limited to Noctua these days, nor to Noctua's price point.

I believe when mounted to my case, the Noctua just produces more noise due to vibration transfer where as the SW4 does not.
Okay, still not clear what SW4 is (Silentwings 4?) but that does surprise me. I have several sets of Noctua 140mm's here and neither products appreciably more vibration than any of their competitors. I wonder if the offset RPM, which is great for heatsinks, is an issue otherwise?

Derp:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-case-heatsink-radiator-fan-picks-hardware-busters/
Hmm. Sounds like Noctua is a lot more airflow. Slow them down even more? Compared temps? Although they're still a terrible value.
 
To be fair the Noctua also blows harder, but without any measurement equipment, it is hard to tell if there's any difference in noise-normalized performance.

The cable is super short, there's no built-in cable management like the SW4.
And the final nail in the coffin, rubber pads aren't doing it no more, it may be revolutionary 20 years ago when no one else was trying to be quiet, but today, a stiff frame right up against steel case with a flat sheet of rubber in-between ain't gonna isolate the low-frequency noise fans like this produce. I believe when mounted to my case, the Noctua just produces more noise due to vibration transfer where as the SW4 does not.

"blows harder"?

I think you're referring to the static pressure? What is the difference in the data sheet specs? The Noctua 140mm is 2.56 mm H₂O.

"The cable is super short, there's no built-in cable management like the SW4."

The cable on the 140mm G2. on my desk, is 8" long. How long is your fan's?

Boxed versions of that Noctua fan also come with a "NA-EC1 30cm extension cable". (I'm reading off the box, likewise on the edge of my desk.) I think they're 12" long? That gives you 20" in the box. You can also daisy chain the extension cables, if you have an EATX case.

"And the final nail in the coffin, rubber pads aren't doing it no more, it may be revolutionary 20 years ago when no one else was trying to be quiet, but today, a stiff frame right up against steel case with a flat sheet of rubber in-between ain't gonna isolate the low-frequency noise fans like this produce."

All of the boxed G2s (120mm & 140mm") come with with a properly sized "NA-AVG2-LR anti-vibration gasket. It wraps around the fan's frame edge that is in contact with the case. Did you use the gasket?

Did you try the Noctua fan with the NA-RC16 Low-Noise Adaptor (L.N.A.) in the box? That makes the fan quieter, although at the expense of CFM.

I'm sorry you're disappointed with the G2s.
 
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"blows harder"?

I think you're referring to the static pressure? What is the difference in the data sheet specs? The Noctua 140mm is 2.56 mm H₂O.

"The cable is super short, there's no built-in cable management like the SW4."

The cable on the 140mm G2. on my desk, is 8" long. How long is your fan's?

Boxed versions of that Noctua fan also come with a "NA-EC1 30cm extension cable". (I'm reading off the box, likewise on the edge of my desk.) I think they're 12" long? That gives you 20" in the box. You can also daisy chain the extension cables, if you have an EATX case.

"And the final nail in the coffin, rubber pads aren't doing it no more, it may be revolutionary 20 years ago when no one else was trying to be quiet, but today, a stiff frame right up against steel case with a flat sheet of rubber in-between ain't gonna isolate the low-frequency noise fans like this produce."

All of the boxed G2s (120mm & 140mm") come with with a properly sized "NA-AVG2-LR anti-vibration gasket. It wraps around the fan's frame edge that is in contact with the case. Did you use the gasket?

Did you try the Noctua fan with the NA-RC16 Low-Noise Adaptor (L.N.A.) in the box? That makes the fan quieter, although at the expense of CFM.

I'm sorry you're disappointed with the G2s.
"blows harder" simply as feels like more air when I put my hand over it. it should translate to more or less airflow. like I said yes the noctua does seem to have more airflow but it is also louder. does it have more airflow at same noise level? hard to tell because it's very hard to slow it down enough to match the SW4.

8" sounds about right, but the SW4 have about twice that long. yes I know you can extend it but the super hard sleeve and and extra connector would make it even harder to manage because again it tends to fold in sharp angles and can for example stick up into the fan itself if too long.

the gasket is just a sheet of rubber, it isn't enough, the system is still too stiff because there is a very large contact area and the rubber is not soft enough for that large of a contact area. In comparison each of the 4 screw holes on the SW4 are obviously wiggly loose, thus they will be effective at isolating vibrations.

yes withe the low noise adapter the maximum speed is still 1200rpm which is still significantly louder than the SW4 at 1100RPM, the Noctua is about equally loud at 900 or lower. This means even if I install the adapter, there will be a significant woosh when turning on the PC.

What fan were you comparing them against? You say SW4 but I'm not clear exactly what that is.

As far as performance advantage... they technically do have one, but I think it's pretty clear from the benchmarks that you're paying 2x or 3x or 4x the cost for tiny, tiny fractions in performance. LCP rotors and whatnot are not limited to Noctua these days, nor to Noctua's price point.


Okay, still not clear what SW4 is (Silentwings 4?) but that does surprise me. I have several sets of Noctua 140mm's here and neither products appreciably more vibration than any of their competitors. I wonder if the offset RPM, which is great for heatsinks, is an issue otherwise?

Derp:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-case-heatsink-radiator-fan-picks-hardware-busters/
Hmm. Sounds like Noctua is a lot more airflow. Slow them down even more? Compared temps? Although they're still a terrible value.
it's explained at the very beginning of the post, silent wings 4

vibration as in sound vibration, not something you can feel by hand. the noise is in the few hundred hz range, because of the stiff contact system of the big frame+uniform flat rubber pad, that can transfer to the case, magnifying the noise.

I did see that hardware busters review, the lowest noise level they test is 20db, but the silent wings 4 max out at less than 20db so there's no direct comparison. I will say interpolating the available data, the Noctua likely has more airflow, but that small advantage can't even justify its disadvantage in vibration dampening, cable quality, and certainly not price.
 

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but that small advantage can't even justify its disadvantage in vibration dampening, cable quality, and certainly not price.
Sorry, missed that you said Silent Wings 4 at beginning. The vibration issue surprises me. The different approach to cables is definitely something to be aware of. The lack of value does not surprise me at all.

did see that hardware busters review, the lowest noise level they test is 20db, but the silent wings 4 max out at less than 20db
I assume the Noctua does too, but in your case the Noctua sounds like an immediate return, even without the vibration issues you’re experiencing, there’s no value to be hand and hence no reason to spend the money.
 

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I dropped two 140mm G2 Noctuas in my Define R5 recently, and there’s nothing that made me think they’re loud. They also came with silicone mounting gizmos. No screws needed, and no rigid coupling to the case.

1096, any chance you got a fake fan? An aliexpress special? Your experiences don’t exactly match up with mine. Although I do agree with one thing: I don’t love the sleeving they use.
 

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I actually got an inexpensive set of Noctua extension cords. Imagine paying for something that's only those sleeves, all folding all the time! :)

I'm sorry you hated your Noctua experience, but maybe they're fake or faulty?? I haven't purchased a Noctua fan since pre-pandemic, but I loved the fan I got from them. I think Noctua has good attention to detail and ships all the accessories you might want with the fan, which is super helpful despite their folding cables.

I found the new G2 fans to be far too pricey on principle. I really like the Arctic P14 PRO fans, they run very slowly and can ramp up respectably and they're cheap. A little thick (so before for radiator use or in tight spaces). And quieter than my water pump.