New data shows which states were more deadly for pedestrians in 2023

Preliminary road-safety data for the first half of 2023 has been published.

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Yes, they already have.

Yes, they already have.

 

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Adopting 20mph speed limits and other traffic calming efforts is adapting. And some people are resistant to the change. Same as it ever was.

And what new technology, exactly, are you saying we’re adapting to?

 

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You do realize there are professional engineers on YouTube, right?

Of course there are.
Notjustbikes is not one of them.

 

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I provided what you could use to educate yourself, and you rejected it out of hand, because the first one had an ad sponser (that is easily skipped)

That’s called “voting with your wallet”.

and the second one wasn't literally a road design engineer, and you made it clear you didn't watch either video.

I never said I didn’t watch the notjustbikes video. I simply reject the arguments therein.

So no, your synopsis isn't accurate, because of course it wouldn't be, would it?

What if I told you there were other sources talking about the same subject?

 

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No, it isn't "absolutely is". That link is talking about collisions between cars.

There is no "absolute" reason a rule that might be reasonable for a 65 mph hour highway should be applied to a 20-25 mph area that people want to be a mixed used space (not just used only by cars).

There is also a notion that roadways that are safer for pedestrians are going to be safer for cyclists.

A “mixed used (sic) space” is inherently less safe.

 

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Not new technology, just reality. It's really just a question of priorities. Which do we prioritize as a society, the convenience of drivers and the ability to move a higher number of cars through a populated area, or pedestrian convenience, safety, and health? As far as I can tell you can't have both. Personally I'm firmly on the latter side, and I'm very happy to see that there appears to be a growing movement that agrees with me. Time will tell where we end up, but I'm very excited to see us adapt to more human centric priorities than what is currently on display.

I’m firmly on the side of the former.
Removing cars from a road strikes me as elitist and NIMBYism. It creates zones that are essentially off limits to people who don’t live in the immediate vicinity and/or have mobility issues.

This “movement” you describe is taking place in my neck of the woods, and the results are disastrous. I push back on this as hard as I can.

Also twenty is goddamn plenty. There are kids out there that are trying to live.

20 is a snail’s pace.