The world’s first dentist was a Neanderthal, according to a recent study.
Yeah but the Dreamcast port of Chagyrskaya was the best one.Chagyrskaya 64 has a second cavity
For what looks like a molar it is surprisingly hard to pull effectively without a reasonable set of tools. The roots are deeply set in the jawbone. Amateur attempts at pulling molars are known to break jaws.I shocked they didn't just pull the tooth. My dad living on a Ranch growing up had 1/2 his teeth pulled by the time he was an adult in the 70's.
Probably because they didnt have pliers or grippy things. I'd assume they'd have to cut, wedge and knock it out. At which point drilling slowly starts to sound like the less bad option.I shocked they didn't just pull the tooth. My dad living on a Ranch growing up had 1/2 his teeth pulled by the time he was an adult in the 70's.
I know you're just riffing on the Geico ads, and I promise I'm not yelling at you about this joke, but it really pisses me off when people use neanderthals as a punchline. Particularly given that we very likely played a pretty damn direct role in extinguishing them.Dentistry: So easy a caveman can do it
I usually go the other direction: Novocaine's aftermath usually hurts me for hours afterward while the pain of the drill is gone as soon as the drill is out of my mouth, so I frequently request no anesthetic.I'm pretty resistant to local anesthetics and all of my dentists have understandingly upped the dosage for me except one. He snapped at me "That's not pain, that's pressure!" and refused to give me another shot while I tried not to squirm in the chair. He was also old enough to have performed the procedure described in the article.
my dentist put in my file that I'm resistant to local so they started immediately going for max dose instead of inject, wait, inject some moreI'm pretty resistant to local anesthetics and all of my dentists have understandingly upped the dosage for me except one. He snapped at me "That's not pain, that's pressure!" and refused to give me another shot while I tried not to squirm in the chair. He was also old enough to have performed the procedure described in the article.
and even Japanese macaques.
The majority of flesh wounds heal without treatment. Splinters, when ignored, will usually be encapsulated in dead tissue and naturally flake off with a chunk of epidermis in a few weeks. That doesn't mean that ignoring treatment of either is a good IDEA, but most people pretty badly underestimate the body's actual capacity to handle untreated wounds.I wonder if and how they sealed the canal(s). In a root canal they remove the infected pulp but also sterilize the canal and seal it to prevent infection from moving up into the tissues above the tooth. Maybe it just heals itself if left open like any wound? The patient apparently lived with it for years afterward.
Same, the last time I had a cavity filled (thankfully many, many years ago, I take better care of my teeth these days) I was at 3X jabs of the local anesthetic and still feeling pain. So I've known the pain of what a sharp implement inside your tooth feels like and I can't imagine how painful this procedure must have been, or how painful the infection was that lead to this procedure being the better choice.I'm pretty resistant to local anesthetics and all of my dentists have understandingly upped the dosage for me except one. He snapped at me "That's not pain, that's pressure!" and refused to give me another shot while I tried not to squirm in the chair. He was also old enough to have performed the procedure described in the article.
What did poor Og go through?
I once had a lipoma that turned out to go much deeper than ultrasound had suggested removed from my neck next to my spine while under local anesthetic and the surgeon was happy to shoot me up every time I said I could feel the scalpel cutting. Incidentally that procedure cured headaches I'd been having for a decade before the lipoma got so big enough for me to know it was there.my dentist put in my file that I'm resistant to local so they started immediately going for max dose instead of inject, wait, inject some more
one time it still wasn't enough and they were like "next step is injecting the roof of your mouth and that will hurt more than the drill and fill" so I opted out of that and the procedure wasn't really painful, just felt unpleasantly cold
And that's also why to this day every dentist has an ogginator in their toolkit.Poor patient was actually called "Theodore," but the dentist only asked what his name was after putting all the tools in his mouth, so he is forever "Og" on his chart, and therefore the archaeological record.
Wonder if it was painful...![]()
I'd be skeptical of any claims the opium poppy or its concentrated derivatives was available to Neanderthals in Siberia. They might have had willow bark and wild lettuce though. And alcohol.I know this is a funny question, but it is very possible that Neanderthals had discovered the painkilling effects of different plants, including the opium poppy.
That's interesting - of course I can only speak for myself, but to me the sensation of a local anesthetic wearing off is only very mildly uncomfortable. Dental drilling, on the other hand, I find pretty awful.I usually go the other direction: Novocaine's aftermath usually hurts me for hours afterward while the pain of the drill is gone as soon as the drill is out of my mouth, so I frequently request no anesthetic.
Honestly, it's not that hard to tolerate. It sucks, yes, but I have not lived a sheltered life free of the necessity to learn how to handle pain when necessary. And I'd prefer five minutes of sharp pain to several hours of dull ache (and possible self inflicted bite injuries), sooo...
I know I'm far from the only one, either, given that none of the four different dentists I've asked to skip the Novocaine objected or said "what do you mean, skip the Novocaine?" One expressed mild surprise, but registered neither objection nor skepticism. The others didn't even register mild surprise.
edit: and honestly, it's not hard to imagine a paleolithic hunter gatherer would have at least as much reason to learn how to tolerate pain as I have. I don't find it hard to believe that a paleolithic group that had already experienced the eventual relief from instinctive "picking" as described in the article would have the bright idea to speed up the process, either!
Was your dad my old dentist?I grew up with my dad saying "they'll give you shots and say all you'll feel is pressure, but it's still bad."
I have to wonder why pulling the tooth wouldnt be a better alternative than digging a hole in it. Especially considering they probably didnt have fillings back then.it would have been deeply unpleasant but better than the alternative.
So, here's the thing about the effectiveness of the Novocaine during the actual procedure: it only works if the dentist hits the actual nerve, instead of just squirting it in the general vicinity and saying "good enough."That's interesting - of course I can only speak for myself, but to me the sensation of a local anesthetic wearing off is only very mildly uncomfortable. Dental drilling, on the other hand, I find pretty awful.
I grew up with my dad saying "they'll give you shots and say all you'll feel is pressure, but it's still bad." That was my experience too and I thought it was normal, but sometime in my 20s my dentist said "No, that's not how it's supposed to work. Let's numb you a little more and try again." 5 minutes later and I could've cried: it really was suddenly just non-painful, dull pressure. The weird neural fingernails-on-a-chalkboard feeling and pain were actually gone.
It would never have occurred to me to prefer unmedicated drilling to the side effects of the numbness wearing off - for me, the one is so much worse than the other. It's kind of fascinating that it's the other way around for you. The nervous system is a heck of a thing.
You ever tried to sustain yourself on a paleolithic hunter-gatherer diet just by gumming it?I have to wonder why pulling the tooth wouldnt be a better alternative than digging a hole in it.
No, we presume they were cavemen because we have lived in domiciles for hundreds of generations and have difficulty conceiving of large populations that do without permanent shelter.We presume they were cavemen because caves preserve their remains best, so that's where we find them after more than 50,000 years. It's a form of survivorship bias.
No, somebody with pretty normal deductive skills figured out that instinctively picking at the painful area (as recounted in the article) eventually caused the pain to go away, and somebody with a lot of self-confidence decided to see if you could speed the process up instead of waiting around a few years for the picking to finally get through the enamel and expose the infected tissue to oxygen.I can't fathom how they got to a place where they figured out drilling a tooth would help the pain.
Someone with amazing deductive skills noticed someone with tooth pain stopped complaining after they accidentally chipped the tooth exposing the nerves?
You go to the dentist cave, the hygienist cleans your teeth and picks out the auroch sinew, they paint your teeth on the wall, Dr. Og comes in, asks if you've been behaving yourself, talks about his new vacation cave in Lascaux, off you go.Dentistry: So easy a caveman can do it
That's not a funny question, in fact, it's not any kind of question?I know this is a funny question, but it is very possible that Neanderthals had discovered the painkilling effects of different plants, including the opium poppy.
Neither is that, question mark be damned!That's not a funny question, in fact, it's not any kind of question?