Sounds complicated! If only there were simple words to convey what all of that text is trying to say; maybe something like intron and exon.
Actually, I had heard of introns and exons (and understand what they are at a basic level). But I had never heard of "spliceosome", had to look it up.Which would, of course, be a disservice to probably a large segment of the Ars readership.
yes they found 2 areas which had increased numbers of mutations in the disease affected individuals. These mutations don’t change the protein from run4-2, since it itself is not translated to a protein, however these mRNAs get bound into the splicesome complex and provide variation and binding to facilitate splicing. In this case run4-2 At least that is my take- hopefully a splicesome expert can comment since the process is fairly complicated. In his case run4-2 is heavily active in brain and lungs, these mutations degrade performance within the splicesome and cause the disease phenotype.So, if I am reading this correctly the defect codes bad copies of an RNA component that is required for proper function of the spliceosome?
FTFYAnd yet human genes are not arrangedlinearly—or rather, they are arranged linearly, but notcontiguously.
A+ on naming. Medical taxonomists, take note.The cell’s machinery is obviously called the spliceosome.
Haha multipart MIME.It contains part of the amino acid sequence, then it has a chunk of DNA that is largely irrelevant to that sequence, then a bit more of the protein’s sequence, then another chunk of random DNA, back and forth until the end of the protein. It’s as if each of these prose paragraphs were separated by a string of unrelated letters (but not a meaningful paragraph from a different article).
It says what it does.I can't figure out what the heck this article is trying to tell me. What is "obviously called the spliceosome"?
A great video from CSHL :I can't figure out what the heck this article is trying to tell me. What is "obviously called the spliceosome"?
A great video from CSHL :
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aVgwr0QpYNE
It’s short and easy to see what the splicesome does.
Yeah, that struck me too. Kinda pointless and a little misleading.FTFY
But they aren’t, strictly speaking, coded by DNA either, are they? I would expect that what’s coded in DNA are the proteins that produce these molecules.Serotonin and estrogen aren't proteins.
Sorry, I know this is totally off topic. But it’s such a weird quip, I had to ask. What’s the problem with calling someone who… engineers software a “software engineer”?programmers who prefer to refer to yourselves as "software engineers"
Thank you. This was an egregious error coming from an Ars article contributor.Serotonin and estrogen aren't proteins.
An infinite number of monkeys are outside. They'd like a word.But they aren’t, strictly speaking, coded by DNA either, are they? I would expect that what’s coded in DNA are the proteins that produce these molecules.
Sorry, I know this is totally off topic. But it’s such a weird quip, I had to ask. What’s the problem with calling someone who… engineers software a “software engineer”?
(I mean, obviously there’s programming involved, but there’s also all the planning required before you actually get to that point. Turns out that just sitting down at a computer and writing code doesn’t tend to turn out all that well for all but the simplest projects.)
"only" is doing some very heavy lifting here.A gene that only makes an RNA is linked to neurodevelopmental problems.
In any particular case, with 1500 genes possibly involved, looking for the cause, or even a handful of causes, is probably a hopeless dream. Now there’s an entire new class of genetic factors to add to that count of possibilities. There may be a few critical genes in rare cases, but in most of them, the disability is more likely to arise from the interaction of scores or hundreds of genetic variants.Almost 1,500 genes have been implicated in intellectual disabilities; yet for most people with such disabilities, genetic causes remain unknown.
Sounds complicated! If only there were simple words to convey what all of that text is trying to say; maybe something like intron and exon.
As someone who only had a vague idea of what isn't expressed as being something like an appendix to the expressed stuff, I found the explanation in the article educational. Yes, being introduced to the terms may have sent me to Google - if they had sparked my mind in the same way as this explanation did, but that isn't the best way of communicating.Sounds complicated! If only there were simple words to convey what all of that text is trying to say; maybe something like intron and exon.
Recommended reading: What's In Your Genome by Laurence A. Moran, ISBN: 9781487508593This type of research is reassuring at a high level - I was ways frustrated reading the term "junk DNA", with the assumption/hubris that we understand all the machan isms of gene expression so perfectly as to dismiss the vast majority of our genome as vestigial.
I feel like there's a huge difference between this statement of saying that the commonly described scientific consensus in this area felt naive and, say covid denialism, though both seem on the surface similar. how does one express relief that one obvious oversimplification is starting to be rectified without justifying every other attack on scientific credibility?
See maparent above for an obvious solution to this false choice. Also, re-read my original comment and realize that the false choice is yours, not mine.As someone who only had a vague idea of what isn't expressed as being something like an appendix to the expressed stuff, I found the explanation in the article educational. Yes, being introduced to the terms may have sent me to Google - if they had sparked my mind in the same way as this explanation did, but that isn't the best way of communicating.
I've done a bit of web writing at work to explain technical issues to laypeople. I suppose that helps me see how difficult it can be to make effective communication as simple and digestable as most Ars coverage manages to be while still giving an accurate picture. Consistently acheiving that at the pace of a news magazine is impressive.
Strongly conserved in mammals doesn't mean mutations don't occur. Mutations occur in every sequence. It means it's rare for mutations in the sequence to result in a viable animal.While RUN4-2 (which is the small nuclear RNA referred to here) is not a “normal” protein coding gene - it certainly is included as a gene in the human genome annotation. So when one looks for mutations that could cause a disorder, we do look at these already. It makes an RNA which gets expressed- so it’s important. The interesting part here is that most of these are short (this RUN4-2 is only 141 bps) and incredibly conserved in mammals, so it is surprising that mutations can be found within humans in these genes that are very important (and so short on average maybe 200 mutations occur across 6B base pairs- so hitting this 141 is pretty rare anyway).
I think the snark got you the reaction it did. If you'd just explained the terms in terms of how they relate to that text, we'd all be quite happy with your post.I disagree. If any of you programmers who prefer to refer to yourselves as "software engineers" actually found the concept confusing or interesting, it would be much simpler for you to find explanatory articles if you knew the key words to search on.
Well, that explains the college students of today, here's hoping for the next generationMutations in this gene were found to be associated with a syndrome with symptoms that include intellectual disability, seizures, short stature, neurodevelopmental delay, drooling, motor delay, hypotonia (low muscle tone), and microcephaly (having a small head).
Yes it means that over something like 100-125 million years of evolutionary tuning did not provide alternatives to these base pairs - so the chance that they have major effects when mutated is very high. The identified changes were denovo mutations which occurred in individuals independently.Strongly conserved in mammals doesn't mean mutations don't occur. Mutations occur in every sequence. It means it's rare for mutations in the sequence to result in a viable animal.
I agree with maparent's solution and I'm not suggesting the article is perfect, a factual error has already been pointed out. Your original post was not offering a reasonable solution, it was just poorly thought out snark.See maparent above for an obvious solution to this false choice. Also, re-read my original comment and realize that the false choice is yours, not mine.
I recall spliceosomes briefly being a topic in my intro cellular biology course -- the material covered very little about them, just that they splice -- but I think there are other requirement-fulfilling intro bio, uh, sub-subjects for non-bio majors that maybe don't have a granular focus on cells and would omit something that specific?I can't say I recall hearing the term "spliceosome" before, though of course I've heard about introns and exons and mRNA splicing. Looking up the google ngram frequency, it's not a new term but definitely not super common either. Maybe just very domain specific in genetics?
The breathless tone of the article seems a little unnecessary. We've known for a long time mRNA works as a regulator and signaling molecule, and I believe there are known RNA-based enzymes in humans, too. Proteins don't do everything.