Musk’s shifting stance on AI dangers may complicate trial over OpenAI’s mission.
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Musk and Altman face off in trial that will determine OpenAI’s future
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We don’t refine the kind of oil we pump out of the ground for lots of reasons. We refine oil other countries pump out of the ground and ship here. It would take years to decades to change the refining infrastructure or build a new refinery; If you think housing nimbys are bad try building a refinery.
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FSTargetDrone
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First send him to serve a life prison sentence in the nearest Federal Penitentiary concurrent with seizure all of his assets.
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Can it be settled in a more civil manner? Have the two of them kick each other in the nuts, taking turns, for a day. Then call them in for a settlement meeting.
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Sincerely hope Altman's team bring up the whole CSAM-on-demand that happens when Musk is allowed to dictate the operational parameters of AI.
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Here's hoping.
Though given we're in the "jack up the price" phase it's probably close to bursting on its own anyway.
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That’s the slightly quaint aspect to the documents they’re relying on. Back then it was a lot easier to maintain the illusion that LLMs might lead to AGI. I’m not sure there are any mainstream experts that still believe that. People like Sutskever realized a while ago that a different approach would be required.
(Altman continues to talk crap about AGI but then he’s not exactly a disinterested party).
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Your argument implies something no one seems to be talking about - that currently, the idea that we'll ever be able to create an AGI is delusional slop.
What the OP is all about, then, is two tech-bros arguing about who gets to be the high priest of the godhead they're sure they'll manage to make any day now.
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Is this lawsuit going be a blocker when OpenAI tries to perform the IPO? Or it is going to be biggest SPAC in history instead?
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Scary Devil Monastery
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The problem is the ethics. Musk owning SpaceX means that we're still relying on a nazi to take us to space - and not even a former one who, like ol' Wernher, forever after kept his silence on matters political, but one who is actively pushing the white supremacy agenda.
When SpaceX makes money, some of that goes straight into supporting white supremacy, buying campaigns for the politicians currently pushing the GOP/MAGA agenda.
People who consider this largely irrelevant need to recall that Musk being in that spot is what got him DOGE - which in 2025 alone showed a cost of half a million lives lost, mainly children, because of his sudden shutdown of USAID.
The cost of supporting him and his companies is now measured in actual lives lost - Half a million lives per year until the rest of the world manages to build anew what the US created and suddenly abandoned.
That's the participation trophy of supporting SpaceX now. A share in the mountain of dead children Musk considers a favorable side effect with so many of them being brown and black.
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First one that manages to stay out of newspapers for 6 months wins...
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It seems like Sutskever and Brockman were right all along - wanting to be CEO should automatically disqualify you from being CEO.
Though I doubt either has clean hands...
Though I doubt either has clean hands...
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Easy. Musk. OpenAi is going to have its lunch eaten by Anthropic anyway.
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Anthropic is the only AI darling with a clear use case and product/market fit. Claude Code is a good product. ChatGPT didn’t monetize the buzz and Grok is just bad (it is also thinking-its-a-Nazi-bad but simultaneously a bad product).
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Elon Musk apparently does not realize that while all charities are non-profits, not all non-profits are charities. He talks like they planned to use AI to house and feed the world's poor.
The poor that, as the head of DOGE, he is directly responsible for genociding?
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Or, as I seem to remember, the princely sum of £1.
A very clear sign of judicial "I wish you could both lose".
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Good response. Очень рад за тебя товарищ. Видно ты нечего в химии, политке или в Арс форумах не осозал. But it's basic chemistry bruh.
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hahahahaha it absolutely is totally okay to loot a charity in America right now
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-pardons-michele-fiore-las-vegas-nevada-politician-fraud/
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At least two of the weapons supplied need to be a Boring Company "not-a-flamethrower" and a DOGE chainsaw. The battlefield can be a rocket range scattered with RUD components?
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What would be truly hilarious is if the judge could somehow decide that neither Musk NOR Altman have the claim to be the "rightful CEO" and awards control to someone else.
From all the bickering the only conclusion I can make is that I trust the motives of neither Musk nor Altman and having EITHER of them in charge if by some miracle OpenAI does produce an AGI would I believe result in catastrophy either way.
From all the bickering the only conclusion I can make is that I trust the motives of neither Musk nor Altman and having EITHER of them in charge if by some miracle OpenAI does produce an AGI would I believe result in catastrophy either way.
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"Musk is supposedly the one most committed to AI safety and AI as a public good."
And to absolutely cement his commitment to using AI for the "public good", the MuskRat can always point to Grok as wanting to be addressed as MechaHtler, and his continual defense of CSAM generated by Grok! That should convince every jury (which isn't entirely composed of psychopaths). The MuskRat is NEVER serIous. Remember when he wanted to save humanity by establishing a community on Mars? But only until someone else was going to get to the moon and his Mars fantasy was starting to fail. e.g., Being on Mars will be just like eating pizza on the beach, or some other horseshit.
And to absolutely cement his commitment to using AI for the "public good", the MuskRat can always point to Grok as wanting to be addressed as MechaHtler, and his continual defense of CSAM generated by Grok! That should convince every jury (which isn't entirely composed of psychopaths). The MuskRat is NEVER serIous. Remember when he wanted to save humanity by establishing a community on Mars? But only until someone else was going to get to the moon and his Mars fantasy was starting to fail. e.g., Being on Mars will be just like eating pizza on the beach, or some other horseshit.
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Those two are nothing like the version of themselves they were in 2016. No matter which loses the public ultimately always loses. Break up X and keep OpenAI a non-profit.
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