Measles continues raging in South Carolina; 99 new cases since Tuesday

Astra Architect

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The vaccine isn’t 100% effective. Any vaccinated person who is infected by an unvaccinated person should be able to sue for all medical costs, lost wages, etc. Standard of evidence should be preponderance - first unvaccinated person at your workplace or school or whatever to show symptoms counts as the person who infected you.

Any parent whose unvaccinated child suffers permanent injury should be charged with child endangerment unless the parent was medically advised to not vaccinate their child.
 
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Fatesrider

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Sigh. I should just copy this to the clipboard and keep it at the ready.

I can’t adequately express how furious this situation makes me. Possibly the greatest, most effective medical advance in history is in danger of being dismantled by fools and people are going to suffer and die as a result.
I will mourn the loss of those who wanted vaccinations and couldn't get them.

But I will not mourn the loss of those who voted for these fuckwits in the first place. And I will actively cheer the deaths of those who supported this kind of bullshittery whether actively or passively. They generally are not the brightest bulbs on the evolutionary Christmas tree, and the loss of their genes in the pool will not be missed.

Not everyone dying or suffering the direct or side effects of measles were deserving of them, of course. So my scorn isn't general, but quite specific. If you voted for these bastards, you got what you wanted. Live with it, or die with it. I don't care. YOU caused this.

As for the children of those who believe vaccines are somehow bad, I take a VERY Darwinist point of view about that. Thinning the herd is usually good for the herd. And since MY herd advocates for and gets their vaccinations, I don't have any shits to give for those in the herds who went the other way. And that includes their offspring, for basic evolutionary reasons. They thought they were getting their version of heaven on Earth. They just failed to realize they were voting for the devil. And they got what they wanted.

Life lesson: Always beware of what you want. You might just get it.
 
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Dano40

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You know who is vaccinated against this readily preventable disease?

This guy (points to self).

Way back in the 1960s, when the vaccine was far less tested but everyone had a fresh memory of how bad it was.
It didn’t take long for people to forget about blindness, deafness, and possible dementia down the road.
 
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LordEOD

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If my mission was to be installed as a country's leader and then do everything possible to cripple them from the inside out - this would be fantastic news.

As a matter of fact, I would think I was doing rather well; science is in the crapper, you have state agents executing civilians, health and human services knocked back a century.
Got all the rich folk onboard too - their own mother's they would sell for a quick dollar.

The US never stood a chance...
 
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DarthSlack

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You know who is vaccinated against this readily preventable disease?

This guy (points to self).

Way back in the 1960s, when the vaccine was far less tested but everyone had a fresh memory of how bad it was.

Protip: Get your measles titer checked or get a booster. Those vaccines from the 60's worked, but not all of them conferred life-long immunity. The shot I got didn't.
 
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Protip: Get your measles titer checked or get a booster. Those vaccines from the 60's worked, but not all of them conferred life-long immunity. The shot I got didn't.
Yeah, I was born in '66 and I'd be in the "get a new shot pronto" category if not for the fortunate circumstance that every time I went to a new college it was easier for me to get a new MMR shot than to track down my medical records showing I'd already had one. So I got boosters in '84, '85, and '08. I sure hope I'm covered now.
 
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iollmann

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I can’t adequately express how furious this situation makes me. Possibly the greatest, most effective medical advance in history is in danger of being dismantled by fools and people are going to suffer and die as a result.
Eh… this cynical bastard figures people need a certain level of mortal peril and if they don’t get it will create some. It is more exciting if it is your kids.

Otherwise, it is hard to imagine any sort of rational thought process leading to observed behavior.
 
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TechGuy8

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It is truly sad that the current federal administration is pushing against vaccination, with the so-called medical head (RFK Jr. Secretary of Health and Human Services) actively spouting anti-health propaganda.
This current government is so anti-science and anti-health (and anti- a lot of other common sense things).
For historical reference, here's a link to an interesting article about the measles vaccine push back in 1962.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6410476/
 
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D.Becker

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Protip: Get your measles titer checked or get a booster. Those vaccines from the 60's worked, but not all of them conferred life-long immunity. The shot I got didn't.

After spending most of a lifetime thinking that I was fully protected against now-extinct threats, I got the full recommended set of booster shots in October 2025.

It feels a bit like Jurassic Park -- "I never expected I would need to defend myself against that"
 
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Hacker Uno

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Having worked in that part of SC extensively in the late 1990s, there is a very large religious community which does not believe in medical care—period: "Being ill is a punishment by God, and anything mankind does to thwart God's will is a Cardinal Sin which will end you up in Hell."

That's at least part of the reason there are so many unvaccinated cases in the Greenville-Spartanburg area. Add in the fact the majority of the area is fiercely anti-government, anti-regulation, anti-alcohol, anti-education-for-women (and, anti-literacy in general!), anti-science (Satan's religion), anti-immigrant, anti-commonsense, and anti-just-about-everything-else, what can you expect?

They don't call that part of SC "The Buckle of The Bible Belt" for nothing,
 
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pnellesen

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Protip: Get your measles titer checked or get a booster. Those vaccines from the 60's worked, but not all of them conferred life-long immunity. The shot I got didn't.
Seconding this. I did the same thing after it became obvious the CDC was being dismantled and RFK Jr. was doing everything in his power to prevent Americans from getting ANY vaccines again. Fortunately my immunity (from the early '60s) was still good.

And thankfully, my doctor is not an anti-vax quack.
 
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The measles shot was brand new in 1963, when I was entering kindergarten; as such, just in time for me. My neighborhood friends were mostly a year or two older, and had had the measles. Of course, chicken pox and mumps still lay ahead for me. Neither were fun, but at least chicken pox did not present the threat of measles.

I had gone for decades with scarcely a thought about measles. The fact that it makes headlines now is testimony to my living in a country, where a substantial portion of the populace consider stupidity to be a virtue.
 
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How strange. Living in a nearly fully vaccinated area, I don't think I've even heard of a case of measles anywhere here.

I feel bad for the kids who are just unwilling participants on the crazy train. I hope they make it. As for their "parents"... shrug.
I was glossing over Michigan's vaccination rates for various things broken down by district a couple of months ago. It's not all quite so bad but much of it was concerning and some places, especially certain rural ones, were downright scary. Like in the ballpark of 50% scary. There hadn't been any cases in a long time of course, as with most of the rest of North America, but if something as contagious as measles really starts to take hold again, some of these communities are at risk of being absolutely ravaged.
 
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I guess the Ivermectin and raw milk isn't working as advertised.
Some people are saying that going out and catching measles on purpose is actually a great way to reverse male pattern baldness, turn a beer belly into a six pack, and cure impotence. I can't verify one way or the other, as I'm not a doctor. Do your own research, people.
 
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Arstotzka

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antivax trail.jpg
 
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dollyllama

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Saggy Kennedy, Jr. says: "You'll see! With a reduction in childhood vaccinations, autism rates are going to plummet--never mind that the government has cut support for healthcare and calls on states to stop gathering healthcare statistics, which will dramatically reduce the frequency of diagnosis of autism."
 
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