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Yeah, it's great for crowd control. Particularly when dealing with stronger enemies like the Geth Primes. Keep stasis on the strong guys, wipe out the Geth Troopers and rocket guys, then deal with the strong guy at the end.<BR><BR>If you want to incapacitate someone and shoot them, use lift.
maybe because I'm a soldier I dont usually deal with crowd control.I just run in and let God sort em out. What irked me is last night on hardcore I was on the wrex armor mission and the aholes kept using immunity and shield boost on themselves. It took forever to kill them because I didnt have anyone who could cancel their powers down. I tried stasis thinking "this'll take care of it"<br><br>No. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif --
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<br><br>One of the Adept specializations allows you to damage enemies in stasis.
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<div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NinjaMutha:<br>maybe because I'm a soldier I dont usually deal with crowd control.I just run in and let God sort em out. What irked me is last night on hardcore I was on the wrex armor mission and the aholes kept using immunity and shield boost on themselves. It took forever to kill them because I didnt have anyone who could cancel their powers down. I tried stasis thinking "this'll take care of it"<br><br>No. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- </div>
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<br><br>One of the Adept specializations allows you to damage enemies in stasis.
Zero Punctuation does Mass Effect:<BR><BR>http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorial...ctuation-Mass-Effect<BR><BR>Yes, Yahtzee, now that you have done Mass <STRIKE>Erect</STRIKE>Effect, you can go back to indulging yourself now.<BR><BR>(It was hilarious. Even though I love the game.)
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<br><br>*cough* -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif --
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<br><br>*cough* -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif --
The end of the game was very epic, but I'm confused what just happened: can anyone enlighten me?<BR><BR>V qba'g haqrefgnaq jung nyy gur shff nobhg gur Pbaqhvg jnf. Vg'f n znff erynl gung trgf lbh vagb gur Pvgnqry, jurer lbh pna tb naljnl. Jul qvq Fnera jnfgr nyy gung gvzr punfvat gur Pbaqhvg naq rkcbfvat uvzfrys nf n genvgbe, jura ur pbhyq whfg unir uvqqra va gur Pvgnqry qhevat Fbirervta'f nggnpx engure guna gryrcbegvat va? V xabj gur Cebgurna IV gryyf lbh Fbirervta jnf cngvrag; vf guvf jnl bs qbvat guvatf fhccbfrq gb unir n fyvtugyl uvture cebonovyvgl bs fhpprrqvat, fb ur'f jvyyvat gb jnfgr nyy gung gvzr qbvat vg?
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<div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Captain_Science:<br>The end of the game was very epic, but I'm confused what just happened: can anyone enlighten me?<br><br>V qba'g haqrefgnaq jung nyy gur shff nobhg gur Pbaqhvg jnf. Vg'f n znff erynl gung trgf lbh vagb gur Pvgnqry, jurer lbh pna tb naljnl. Jul qvq Fnera jnfgr nyy gung gvzr punfvat gur Pbaqhvg naq rkcbfvat uvzfrys nf n genvgbe, jura ur pbhyq whfg unir uvqqra va gur Pvgnqry qhevat Fbirervta'f nggnpx engure guna gryrcbegvat va? V xabj gur Cebgurna IV gryyf lbh Fbirervta jnf cngvrag; vf guvf jnl bs qbvat guvatf fhccbfrq gb unir n fyvtugyl uvture cebonovyvgl bs fhpprrqvat, fb ur'f jvyyvat gb jnfgr nyy gung gvzr qbvat vg? </div>
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<br><br>You can read this *MASSIVE END GAME SPOILERS* thread *MASSIVE END GAME SPOILERS* for a discussion.<br><br>Basically the only poster you should really pay attention to is the one called 'senduran' -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif -- (starting on page 6)
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<br><br>You can read this *MASSIVE END GAME SPOILERS* thread *MASSIVE END GAME SPOILERS* for a discussion.<br><br>Basically the only poster you should really pay attention to is the one called 'senduran' -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif -- (starting on page 6)
@Shrikebtr:<BR>It sounds like you got the Achievement when the <BR>"Find Benezia" quest changes title to (something along the lines of) "Benezia is in the Hot Labs." I picked up the Quarian Ally Achievement when that particular mission ended.<BR><BR>Since it in fact does sound as though at least some of the check-marks count towards the completions, is it as simple as counting check-marks when the Achievement is gained with Alenko to know <I>exactly</I> how many are needed? Not that it will matter much to me after my next run, I'll have all of the Achievements by then, and not have to worry about it.<BR><BR>If you don't mind waiting I'll try not doing any of the collection quests during my next game. Since it's a Kaidan/Ashley game Eden Prime should (will?) count for them, and hopefully I can get both Achievements before Virmire. I'll post here with Mission and Assignment counts if successful. <BR><BR>It'll probably be late into next week though if the pace doesn't pick up on my Insanity playthrough.
I'm amazed by how much time some of you have to game. I just finished all of the sidequests and started in on the post-Dr. main missions. I was thinking the rest would move pretty quick when I hit Feros and found a crap load more missions in the colony there.
Random thought that just popped into my head.<BR><BR>It's a hell of a lot of fun to continuously disconnect on the Council when they call for mission updates. They did a nice job including humorous little bits there that continue throughout.
On team mates spamming skills and gunfire into walls etc.: This is one of the reasons why I prefer biotics to tech skills, and why I am REALLY looking forward to my Vanguard run with Kaidan/Wrex/Liara. Granted there are only a few skills where this works, but at least it does... if your team mates pull their usual stupidity and loose lift or singularity on boxes or other destroyable/mobile cover, it will lift the COVER... which is amusing and also allows for the killing of the mans.<BR><BR>On ally achievements: I am just about convinced that you can get the ally achievements while completely ignoring the collection quests, and I am fairly certain this includes Liara as long as you ONLY do those things on the Citadel to LEAVE, and then head straight for her planet to get her, at which point she never ever leaves the party and you do every other quest that arent: data disks, elements, writings, and ID Tags ( I think thats all of them ).<BR><BR>I got Quarian ally last night, also on Noveria, right after the confrontation with Benezia. Note that the first thing I did at the beginning of this game upon arriving at the Citadel was to get Tali asap, making sure not to complete any assignments before then. By my count, I think I had 13 or 14 (I am at work now, can't remember the exact number) Missions completed and the same 46 assignments completed as I did with Kaidan. Meanwhile I STILL have all of Virmire and Ilos and the Endgame stuff to complete. Even assuming that each of those is only ONE mission, and considering that there are a few more UCWs that appear with stuff to do after Noveria/Virmire, thats enough "stuff" to make up for the 4 collection quests and the 1-3 missions you have to do to get off of the Citadel.<BR><BR>So for those keeping score: I got Sentinal ally achievement with 11/46. I got Quarian ally with 13/46. I have a feeling that the bottom 2 missions if I look will be Eden Prime stuff and the mission that gets you Tali.<BR><BR>Krimhorn: I think in my last two runs (I still need Garrus, Ashley, and of course Liara), I will track full completions AND check marks. I have a feeling there may be a concrete metric that can be weeded out here. The only possible fly in the ointment as it were is that perhaps "Mission" completions/check marks are weighted more then "Assignments".<BR><BR>I think this will be the first 360 game where I get every single achievement.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Shrikebtr:<BR>I think this will be the first 360 game where I get every single achievement. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>It was the first game I got every achievement on. As much as I usually take a completionist approach to games, I have a hard time going for all the achievements in most games as many of them are like Assassin's Creed; the first 600 or so points are easy. The next 200 or so take some effort, then the last 200 take an extreme amount of very boring work. You couldn't pay me to collect all 100 of the flags in all of those areas.<BR><BR>That said, getting all the achievements in Mass Effect does take at least 3 playthroughs, and it's much more likely to take around 4 and a half.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FractalLaw:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Shrikebtr:<BR>I think this will be the first 360 game where I get every single achievement. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>It was the first game I got every achievement on. As much as I usually take a completionist approach to games, I have a hard time going for all the achievements in most games as many of them are like Assassin's Creed; the first 600 or so points are easy. The next 200 or so take some effort, then the last 200 take an extreme amount of very boring work. You couldn't pay me to collect all 100 of the flags in all of those areas.<BR><BR>That said, getting all the achievements in Mass Effect does take at least 3 playthroughs, and it's much more likely to take around 4 and a half. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I kept thinking I'd go for 100% achievements, but there are a few flies in that ointment. 1) I don't want to have Kaiden in my party. I just don't like him that much. My first party was Ashley/Liara, my current one is Garrus/Tali, and my planned 3rd one is Wrex/Liara (for her achievement), 2) I've been playing the hybrid classes, so I need the AR achievement (going to try for that on a New Game+, hoping that the Spectre ARs without any points will be enough to kill things), Neural Shock, AI Hacking, Singularity, and Stasis. That requires two other characters, and unless I do the cast-reload trick on a couple throwaway characters, I can't see myself getting them. Oh well.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eyris6:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FractalLaw:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Shrikebtr:<BR>I think this will be the first 360 game where I get every single achievement. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>It was the first game I got every achievement on. As much as I usually take a completionist approach to games, I have a hard time going for all the achievements in most games as many of them are like Assassin's Creed; the first 600 or so points are easy. The next 200 or so take some effort, then the last 200 take an extreme amount of very boring work. You couldn't pay me to collect all 100 of the flags in all of those areas.<BR><BR>That said, getting all the achievements in Mass Effect does take at least 3 playthroughs, and it's much more likely to take around 4 and a half. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I kept thinking I'd go for 100% achievements, but there are a few flies in that ointment. 1) I don't want to have Kaiden in my party. I just don't like him that much. My first party was Ashley/Liara, my current one is Garrus/Tali, and my planned 3rd one is Wrex/Liara (for her achievement), 2) I've been playing the hybrid classes, so I need the AR achievement (going to try for that on a New Game+, hoping that the Spectre ARs without any points will be enough to kill things), Neural Shock, AI Hacking, Singularity, and Stasis. That requires two other characters, and unless I do the cast-reload trick on a couple throwaway characters, I can't see myself getting them. Oh well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>If I were going to go for the AR achievement on a character without the AR skill I'd use one of the Geth ARs, not the Specter ones, due to their higher accuracy. The're much harder to get, however.
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<br>I'm at 950 now, and busy blasting through an Insanity run with my level 60 vanguard (and skipping ALL the sidequests, so it shouldn't take too long).<br><br><blockquote class="ip-ubbcode-quote">
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<br>Ah, come on, he's not that bad. Just try to get Carth out of your head -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif -- (although it has to be said that Kaiden <i>can</i> be utterly fucking inane at times... "these prothean ruins remind me of tiles on a bathroom floor". Really Kaiden? Thanks, that was great you shared that amazing insight with us, it's sure to help us rescue Liara). I think i combined my run with him with the run when i did the romance with him, which somehow made him more bearable.<br><br><blockquote class="ip-ubbcode-quote">
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<br>Eletania is great for skilling up unskilled weapons, providing you have no problems with committing monkey genocide.
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<br>Ah, come on, he's not that bad. Just try to get Carth out of your head -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif -- (although it has to be said that Kaiden <i>can</i> be utterly fucking inane at times... "these prothean ruins remind me of tiles on a bathroom floor". Really Kaiden? Thanks, that was great you shared that amazing insight with us, it's sure to help us rescue Liara). I think i combined my run with him with the run when i did the romance with him, which somehow made him more bearable.<br><br><blockquote class="ip-ubbcode-quote">
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<br>Eletania is great for skilling up unskilled weapons, providing you have no problems with committing monkey genocide.
It's also worth noting that assuming they are accessible, you can definitely get 2 (maybe three) weapon achievements in one run. My current run through as soldier, I am using sniper rifles and ARs. I got the AR achievement on Feros (and after a crapton of UCW stuff). After that, I forced myself to exclusively use sniper rifles until I got the achievement, which I did I think early on in Noveria.<br><br>I would say screw it and go for the shotty achievement, except 1) I am not sure there is enough left to kill at this point in my game to get it, and 2) I am going to do a Vanguard run, so I don't want shotguns to get old before that -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif --<br><br>As for the achievements, I may not get ALL of them before putting the game down, but what I like is that it seems like for many if not all of the achievements in ME, there is a SANE shortcut. You don't have to go insane getting L50 or L60... just play NG+ until you get it. Hell even the Scholar achievement which I somehow missed on my first playthrough, is tracked separate from "careers" or characters, and just builds up over time.<br><br>Really the only achievements that demand on a significant outlay of time are completionist and the ally achievements, which of course is why I am obsessing over whether you can get these without the collection quests, because it is my theory that if you can skip the collection quests, you can cut the game time down by like 10 hours. Just land on every planet, head for the quest location (which even when it isnt clearly laid out, after 1 or 2 playthroughs you just know) kill shit, and take off again.<br>Granted the "beat the game" and "beat the game on x difficulty" achievements require that as well, but again, you could do those in 10 hours on an NG+ and bypass all side quests. Would probably be fun as hell to, as the game would consist of so much combat and so little in between crap -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif --<br><br>Anyway, the point is that despite the many glaring issues the game has, it is still very very fun, and they did a bang up job on the achievements. Even if I miss one or two now, I am certain I will come back and bang out the last few on a rainy day in a few months.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It's also worth noting that assuming they are accessible, you can definitely get 2 (maybe three) weapon achievements in one run. My current run through as soldier, I am using sniper rifles and ARs. I got the AR achievement on Feros (and after a crapton of UCW stuff). After that, I forced myself to exclusively use sniper rifles until I got the achievement, which I did I think early on in Noveria. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>It should be easy to get all three with a soldier. I have sniper and AR and the only story planet I've completed is Liara's.
I got the pistol and shotgun achievements in my first run-through as a vanguard without doing anything outside the main storyline. Three in one run should be easy.
I have a question about some Prothean ruins I ran across on my first playthrough:<BR><BR>Bar bar cynarg V sbhaq Cebgurna ehvaf gung unq n sybngvat fuval onyy va gur prager. Jura V nggrzcgrq gb npgvingr vg, V jnf gbyq V arrqrq n xrl naq gung gur xrl jbhyq or irel uneq gb svaq. V qvqa'g trg n dhrfg ragel sbe guvf, fb V nffhzrq vg jnf fbzr bss-gur-jnyy rkgen nqqrq va sbe nzhfrzrag. Unf nalbar qbar guvf be xabjf jung V'z gnyxvat nobhg? V qba'g erpnyy juvpu cynarg vg jnf ba, hasbeghangryl.
Gur xrl vf tvira gb lbh ol gur Nfnev pbafbeg sbe pbzcyrgvat bar bs gur dhrfgf vaibyivat ure.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Semi On:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It's also worth noting that assuming they are accessible, you can definitely get 2 (maybe three) weapon achievements in one run. My current run through as soldier, I am using sniper rifles and ARs. I got the AR achievement on Feros (and after a crapton of UCW stuff). After that, I forced myself to exclusively use sniper rifles until I got the achievement, which I did I think early on in Noveria. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>It should be easy to get all three with a soldier. I have sniper and AR and the only story planet I've completed is Liara's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>On my first play through I was a soldier and got all 3 of those and most of pistols.
I easily got both Pistol and Sniper on my first playthrough with Infiltrator. The thing is, I need to do a NG+ with her to get the level 50 and 60 achievements. I did find a couple Geth ARs, not sure if I sold them or not. Lack of upgrades is annoying, but I'll play around with them and the Spectre AR and try and get the achievement. I'll be Renegade, so I will scour that planet of monkeys!<BR><BR>Once I have the AR achievement I may break down and do two lightning playthroughs with an Adept and Engineer with ARs to get the last four skill achievements. Who knows, maybe I'll force myself to bring Kaiden along for one of them...not sure I could make myself romance him though.<BR><BR>Also, I second the comment on Assassin's Creed. I got the Masyaf flags, and that'll be it for me as far as collection goes. I'll do all the fighting ones, of course, but nothing else.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Shrikebtr:<BR>Hell even the Scholar achievement which I somehow missed on my first playthrough, is tracked separate from "careers" or characters, and just builds up over time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>This is incorrect - you must get it on a single playthrough.
I did all the collection quests and I tell you guys, they do nothing but give you exp and money.
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Finally broke down and bought a 360 and I'll be starting my Mass Effect Marathon sometime tomorrow afternoon. Any advice? I don't want to look too deeply through this thread or around the internet for fear of spoilers. Not looking for much, just a nudge away from the classes that will make my first play through painful or nifty things I should be on the lookout for once I start.
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<br>Any class can be fun on the first playthrough, it's the later ones on Hardcore/Insanity that can be a bit tricky with the squishier classes -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --
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<div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Skinny Little White Boy:<br>Finally broke down and bought a 360 and I'll be starting my Mass Effect Marathon sometime tomorrow afternoon. Any advice? I don't want to look too deeply through this thread or around the internet for fear of spoilers. Not looking for much, just a nudge away from the classes that will make my first play through painful or nifty things I should be on the lookout for once I start. </div>
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<br>Any class can be fun on the first playthrough, it's the later ones on Hardcore/Insanity that can be a bit tricky with the squishier classes -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --
Well, ok, this time I did it right and I got the ally achievements for Ash and Tali before I even finished up Feros and Noveria. It's so much easier when you know how to do it. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif --
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by iko:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Skinny Little White Boy:<BR>Not looking for much, just a nudge away from the classes that will make my first play through painful or nifty things I should be on the lookout for once I start. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Don't be an Engineer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>This is the truth.<BR><BR>My suggestion is to be anything except for an Engineer or Soldier on the first play through, but for vastly different reasons. Engineers just aren't very fun to play compared to the rest. They don't bring anything really interesting to the table.<BR><BR>Soldiers on the other hand are fun, but if you think you want to play through on the much harder difficulty levels you might want to save the Soldier for that for the survivability they have. I'm playing an Adept on Hardcore now and can be killed in just a couple of hits sometimes.<BR><BR>If you think you want to unlock all (or any) of the ally achievements don't swap party members in and out. Keep the same two always. If you do want to get them all then read up on how to get the Quarian Ally achievement because there are some caveats to it.
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<br><br>Are you honestly 100% sure about this? 1) I have read elseware it doesn't have to be 1 playthrough, and 2) I scoured the game for codex entries on my first game. Examined everything, talked to everyone, explored every conversation. This runthrough I decided "screw Scholar". I figured if I didn't get it that first run, I was not going to bother trying again.<br>Yet somehow I get it really early despite not trying, despite not talking to people and exploring the conversation trees. Hell I think I got it before doing any of the storyline planets. During the "I remember Me" quest in fact.<br><br>So either I am grossly misinformed as to how "Scholar" works (perhaps you only need to have 3 specific convos and examine 6 specific things and I did this on accident), or it tracks this between careers. Please to enlighten me if you know better -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --<br><br>Oh and this:<br> <blockquote class="ip-ubbcode-quote">
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</blockquote> <br><br>I will second the "don't do engineer" suggestion. Adept can be fun (thats what I did) but I seriously suggest you pick anything with more than pistols for your first run. Pistol only games can get boring, especially if it's your first run. You spend the whole game going "i bet shotguns are cool... or ARs... or snipers -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- "<br><br>So soldier, infiltrator, or vanguard first. That way when you do an engineer/adept/sentinel run, you can bring your favorite gun along.<br><br>edit: also, if you give a crap about the achievements AT ALL it would behoove you to decide which ones you want and plan ahead. You don't need to jump through tons of hoops to get all of them for Mass Effect, but you can save yourself a lot (15-30 hours apparently -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif -- ) of frustration by planning ahead. Example: there is an achievement for every NPC team-mate in the game (6 of them). You get these by "playing the majority of the game" with them in the party. This seems simple enough, except most people like to mix and match, try other people, etc. Or in the case of one character, you get her much later (sorta) than everyone else, and if you don't consciously work around that, it can be impossible to get her achievement.<br><br>People have been hashing out stuff about the achievements for a while now. If you have questions about any of them specifically, just ask. Note also, even if you are the kind of gamer that doesn't care about the achievements, a bunch of them provide actual in game bonuses. Either passive perks, or unlocking the ability to choose that skill/weapon as a bonus when you start a new game, etc.
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<br><br>Are you honestly 100% sure about this? 1) I have read elseware it doesn't have to be 1 playthrough, and 2) I scoured the game for codex entries on my first game. Examined everything, talked to everyone, explored every conversation. This runthrough I decided "screw Scholar". I figured if I didn't get it that first run, I was not going to bother trying again.<br>Yet somehow I get it really early despite not trying, despite not talking to people and exploring the conversation trees. Hell I think I got it before doing any of the storyline planets. During the "I remember Me" quest in fact.<br><br>So either I am grossly misinformed as to how "Scholar" works (perhaps you only need to have 3 specific convos and examine 6 specific things and I did this on accident), or it tracks this between careers. Please to enlighten me if you know better -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --<br><br>Oh and this:<br> <blockquote class="ip-ubbcode-quote">
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</blockquote> <br><br>I will second the "don't do engineer" suggestion. Adept can be fun (thats what I did) but I seriously suggest you pick anything with more than pistols for your first run. Pistol only games can get boring, especially if it's your first run. You spend the whole game going "i bet shotguns are cool... or ARs... or snipers -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- "<br><br>So soldier, infiltrator, or vanguard first. That way when you do an engineer/adept/sentinel run, you can bring your favorite gun along.<br><br>edit: also, if you give a crap about the achievements AT ALL it would behoove you to decide which ones you want and plan ahead. You don't need to jump through tons of hoops to get all of them for Mass Effect, but you can save yourself a lot (15-30 hours apparently -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif -- ) of frustration by planning ahead. Example: there is an achievement for every NPC team-mate in the game (6 of them). You get these by "playing the majority of the game" with them in the party. This seems simple enough, except most people like to mix and match, try other people, etc. Or in the case of one character, you get her much later (sorta) than everyone else, and if you don't consciously work around that, it can be impossible to get her achievement.<br><br>People have been hashing out stuff about the achievements for a while now. If you have questions about any of them specifically, just ask. Note also, even if you are the kind of gamer that doesn't care about the achievements, a bunch of them provide actual in game bonuses. Either passive perks, or unlocking the ability to choose that skill/weapon as a bonus when you start a new game, etc.
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<br>Absolutely, 100% positive.<br><br>There's one particular codex entry required for Scholar which can <i>only</i> be gotten on the Normandy, and only before Eden Prime - if you miss that, it is absolutely impossible to get it on that run (which could explain your first one not working).<br><br>However, if you get that one on the Normandy, you can get Scholar without even leaving the Citadel. If you were able to get it over two runs, I could've gotten it on my second playthrough, since I got the pre-eden prime entry on my first run but missed others, and on the second run I missed the pre-eden prime entry, but got everything else.<br><br>Started another new game *just* for that, and was able to get it very fast, but still had to pickup all the entries that time as well -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --<br><br><blockquote class="ip-ubbcode-quote">
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<br>If you read the details on the achievement, it only wants 2 or 3 categories filled out, and they don't have all that many entries - the rest of the codex is irrelevant to the achievement -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --
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<br>Absolutely, 100% positive.<br><br>There's one particular codex entry required for Scholar which can <i>only</i> be gotten on the Normandy, and only before Eden Prime - if you miss that, it is absolutely impossible to get it on that run (which could explain your first one not working).<br><br>However, if you get that one on the Normandy, you can get Scholar without even leaving the Citadel. If you were able to get it over two runs, I could've gotten it on my second playthrough, since I got the pre-eden prime entry on my first run but missed others, and on the second run I missed the pre-eden prime entry, but got everything else.<br><br>Started another new game *just* for that, and was able to get it very fast, but still had to pickup all the entries that time as well -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --<br><br><blockquote class="ip-ubbcode-quote">
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<br>If you read the details on the achievement, it only wants 2 or 3 categories filled out, and they don't have all that many entries - the rest of the codex is irrelevant to the achievement -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --
Awesome, thanks for the advice. I think I'll be a Vanguard my first time through and not worry too much about achievements. If the game tickles my pickle in the right spot I'll play through a few more times and get them then.
Just beat the game on Hardcore with Cybil Shepard Renegade Adept. Very satisfying and now I have a new gamer pic, weee 
<BR><BR>I ran her through with the added ability to use a Sniper Rifle that I got with my first play through as an infiltrator(which was very useful in the end game). Got the Wrex and Garrus achievements and the mastery achievements for every Adept ability.<BR><BR>I'm gonna start my Insanity run soon with a Soldier. Think I'm gonna go with a female Paragon set up. I was thinking about picking Lift for my add on ability. Does that sound like a good idea or would anyone suggest something else? I'm gonna run with Liara and Tali (still haven't gotten their achievements yet).
<BR><BR>I ran her through with the added ability to use a Sniper Rifle that I got with my first play through as an infiltrator(which was very useful in the end game). Got the Wrex and Garrus achievements and the mastery achievements for every Adept ability.<BR><BR>I'm gonna start my Insanity run soon with a Soldier. Think I'm gonna go with a female Paragon set up. I was thinking about picking Lift for my add on ability. Does that sound like a good idea or would anyone suggest something else? I'm gonna run with Liara and Tali (still haven't gotten their achievements yet).Liara and Tali are both pretty squishy...Tali keeps getting herself killed in the Hardcore run I'm doing and Liara isn't much better even with her Barrier.<BR><BR>If I was going to pick anybody for max survivability through Insanity I would take Ash and Wrex. Of course that depends on who you have already used before.<BR><BR>Lift is great really, though if you are looking for a skill to keep them from closing to melee range Throw is more helpful there. Honestly though if I was doing Insanity with a Soldier I would take Barrier for the increased shielding right when you need it most.
I have the achievements for Wrex, Garrus, and Ashley so my choices are Kiaden, Liara and Tali.
I just started playing this (holiday gift from girlfriend).<BR><BR>Wow. Awesome game. I finally decided to go to sleep (at 3:30 AM), but it was a tough decision.
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<br><br>It was the first game I got every achievement on. As much as I usually take a completionist approach to games, I have a hard time going for all the achievements in most games as many of them are like Assassin's Creed; the first 600 or so points are easy. The next 200 or so take some effort, then the last 200 take an extreme amount of very boring work. You couldn't pay me to collect all 100 of the flags in all of those areas.<br><br>That said, getting all the achievements in Mass Effect does take at least 3 playthroughs, and it's much more likely to take around 4 and a half. </div>
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<br><br>I <i>still</i> haven't gotten all of the Achievements for Fight Night yet...currently the only game I do is Enchanted Arms (and thinking about it is currently giving me flashbacks to the horrible english dub :shudder: ).<br><br>I'm glad that the Achievements are doable, and for the most part, grind free. Most of them are attainable simply by playing the game the way you would logically expect to play it.<br><br>@TFR:<br>What class are you? Do you have access to Adrenaline Burst? If so Unity and AB are your newest best friends. When I finally got sick of trying to fight by myself I just got into the habit of waiting until both were dead, finding a (semi) quiet spot and rezzing them. AB is great if you have to rez in the middle of a fight and they die before Unity recharges.<br><br>That said, squishy doesn't even begin to describe how easily my Insanity Adept was dying a few hours back. I stopped playing for nearly a week because I was convinced that I couldn't finish even one planetary side-quest. A quick trip to Feros and now I'm one biotic killing machine -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif -- .
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<br><br>It was the first game I got every achievement on. As much as I usually take a completionist approach to games, I have a hard time going for all the achievements in most games as many of them are like Assassin's Creed; the first 600 or so points are easy. The next 200 or so take some effort, then the last 200 take an extreme amount of very boring work. You couldn't pay me to collect all 100 of the flags in all of those areas.<br><br>That said, getting all the achievements in Mass Effect does take at least 3 playthroughs, and it's much more likely to take around 4 and a half. </div>
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<br><br>I <i>still</i> haven't gotten all of the Achievements for Fight Night yet...currently the only game I do is Enchanted Arms (and thinking about it is currently giving me flashbacks to the horrible english dub :shudder: ).<br><br>I'm glad that the Achievements are doable, and for the most part, grind free. Most of them are attainable simply by playing the game the way you would logically expect to play it.<br><br>@TFR:<br>What class are you? Do you have access to Adrenaline Burst? If so Unity and AB are your newest best friends. When I finally got sick of trying to fight by myself I just got into the habit of waiting until both were dead, finding a (semi) quiet spot and rezzing them. AB is great if you have to rez in the middle of a fight and they die before Unity recharges.<br><br>That said, squishy doesn't even begin to describe how easily my Insanity Adept was dying a few hours back. I stopped playing for nearly a week because I was convinced that I couldn't finish even one planetary side-quest. A quick trip to Feros and now I'm one biotic killing machine -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif -- .
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