Mass Effect 3 Co-op, ID exchange in first post, (No singleplayer discussion, please!)

[Josh A.K.A CLF]

Man, I'd forgotten what a beast the Human Sentinel is. Leveling the Sentinel is trival ... I've easily gotten through Gold matches using no consumables with an HS at Level 8.

Also, phasic ammo is also a nice mod for the kits that rely on BE's - especially if you're playing Geth or Cerberus. Once you strip the shields of Primes/Atlas they do down pretty quickly with a few BE's - the Phasic Ammo is a huge boost in dealing with shields on Elites. For Collectors and Reapers Warp Ammo is still probably the best for a BE character, but if it's Geth/Cerberus/Random, it's Phasic from here on out.

The same probably holds true for the Human Adept, Vanilla Asari Adept, and Asari Vanguard, though I'll likely still use Warp on the Justicar - undecided on the Fury.

 

[Wraith]

What kits would you suggest using the Typhoon with? i've been playing it on a juggernaught to offset the weight but the speed is annoying me.

 

[Josh A.K.A CLF]

Wraith[/url]":2xpq3chj]What kits would you suggest using the Typhoon with? i've been playing it on a juggernaught to offset the weight but the speed is annoying me.

The Destroyer is a match made in heaven for the Typhoon ... no surprise, since they were both released as part of the same DLC.

 

[LodeRunner]

Josh A.K.A CLF[/url]":3vui981l]

Wraith[/url]":3vui981l]What kits would you suggest using the Typhoon with? i've been playing it on a juggernaught to offset the weight but the speed is annoying me.

The Destroyer is a match made in heaven for the Typhoon ... no surprise, since they were both released as part of the same DLC.

Human Soldier, with max cooldown bonuses. Spam Adrenaline Rush, stand on ammo box. Never ending stream of bullets.

 

[cal_guy]

Josh A.K.A CLF[/url]":90zx9ltd]

Wraith[/url]":90zx9ltd]What kits would you suggest using the Typhoon with? i've been playing it on a juggernaught to offset the weight but the speed is annoying me.

The Destroyer is a match made in heaven for the Typhoon ... no surprise, since they were both released as part of the same DLC.

Especially when it had the 1 meter penetration when it was released.

 

[Wraith]

Yup, that worked. That's assault rifle mastery cleared again.

 

[LodeRunner]

Ya know, nothing indicates that there's a problem with the point distribution for the various faction challenges more than that I'm well on my way to wrapping around Collectors x4 while Cerberus languishes back at x2. I also have an excellent chance of getting Reapers to x4 before Cerberus hits x3. I ignore Geth since I've done so manually manually set Geth matches that it's on the way to x6 and not a fair comparison to the randoms I do.

Me thinks the spawn rates for certain enemies at higher difficulties is kinda skewed towards annoyance (mostly Dragoons replacing other enemy types. Why not just buff the other units instead of throwing more Dragoons in there? Pure laziness).

 

[MixMasterP]

Finished Outsider this morning, now have BotB.

Still need to finish the Reckoning challenges, so I've been playing a Juggy all day. First I was using the Adas, then switched to the Executioner pistol. Holy hell, I dominated the map and kept elites busy. Last match I scored 140k on FBW/Cerberus/Gold with this build. Second highest scorer was half that. It was ridiculous, because all the Juggs I see that play PUGs are usually the lowest scorers. He's my new favorite soldier.

 

[Josh A.K.A CLF]

MixMasterP[/url]":3vvwys2m]Finished Outsider this morning, now have BotB.

Still need to finish the Reckoning challenges, so I've been playing a Juggy all day. First I was using the Adas, then switched to the Executioner pistol. Holy hell, I dominated the map and kept elites busy. Last match I scored 140k on FBW/Cerberus/Gold with this build. Second highest scorer was half that. It was ridiculous, because all the Juggs I see that play PUGs are usually the lowest scorers. He's my new favorite soldier.

There are many kits that can be tuned for insane amounts of scoreboard topping DPS, but the Juggernaught is the only one that can tank elites, shield teammates from enemy fire, boost teammates damage output, and restore teammates shields. When I play as a Juggernaught, I take special pride in keeping my team on their feet and dealing damage. Which also means that I put emphasis on build and play that will result in me accumulating more points on the scoreboard, but we usually extract. I think of all the rounds I've played as a Juggernaught (gold/platinum only), my team has failed to extract only once (on platinum), and I was the last guy standing on Wave 10 Objectives - just got overrun on the last one.

 

[Witecat]

Yeah, the Geth Juggernaught is pretty sweet. I like giving him the Hex Shield ability that electrifies enemies and then shoot them with Warp Ammo. Pure tech burst joy.

I never got the Typhoon or the spitfire yet, but I do got a revanent that I use on my Destroyer. I give him the densified ammo gear, mostly becasue I don't have a better one that gives a bonus to Assault Rifles.

When it comes to sentinals, I like the Turian one, mostly becasue of the Shockwave/Warp burst combo. The Batarian one is a scream when I SUPER PUNCH mobs' faces off when they are tangles up in the capture net.

 

[MixMasterP]

Anyone have any opinions on the Venom Shotgun? Trying to figure out the best way to complete the challenge, as it seems to be less useful than the Scorpion.

 

[Captainpuke]

I still don't have the venom sadly. Really want those last couple UR's so I can try them out.

 

[Josh A.K.A CLF]

I have neither a venom nor the Bloodpack Punisher SMG ... last two URs I'm missing. I haven't been splurging on any packs which would give me a shot at them, as I'm grinding through the N7 Promote challenge, and buying recruit packs exclusively to speed up the process.

I have approximately 16 promotes left, and it's painfully slow ... this is a serious grind.

 

[Captainpuke]

Now that my better half has finally finished all the dlc and the game again, I might actually be able to get on and play some after a 2 week hiatus. Oh the woes of having a significant other that plays games and only one origin account

 

[Wraith]

6 promotions to go. The vanguard and sentinel are a real drag, they take as long as the other classes combined. I'm not sure i want to bother with reckoning because none of the classes or weapons are that interesting.

 

[MixMasterP]

Wraith[/url]":1ywjhm0w]6 promotions to go. The vanguard and sentinel are a real drag, they take as long as the other classes combined. I'm not sure i want to bother with reckoning because none of the classes or weapons are that interesting.

The Adas or Executioner paired with the Juggernaut are really fun if you like the idea of walking around like a slow tank and switching between shield recharge and shooting everything in the face.

The AIU is a great infiltrator, especially paired with a Claymore. Awakened Collector is okay, but definitely is a hard Adept to pick up and make a powerhouse.

Haven't played any of the Cabal vanguard, so can't comment on that. Krogan Warlord is fun if you like Krogans.

 

[Medic Terrible]

MixMasterP[/url]":24jf95o1]Awakened Collector is okay, but definitely is a hard Adept to pick up and make a powerhouse.

General consensus is that Collector Adept is best used 0/6/6/6/6, with bugs used solely for 40% DR, DC as a primer for warp ammo, Collector Passive in weapons (32% better for Promethean/Collector weapons) and full shields.

I've played it paired with the Collector Sniper Rifle + warp ammo, and it's pretty beastly. You'll have to pulse the CSR like a Mattock, (to conserve ammo) but it's pretty good that way. Other classes are more suited to making the boom-booms, so I don't really bother trying to make him a power class.

 

[MixMasterP]

Medic Terrible[/url]":vuhcy7f2]

MixMasterP[/url]":vuhcy7f2]Awakened Collector is okay, but definitely is a hard Adept to pick up and make a powerhouse.

General consensus is that Collector Adept is best used 0/6/6/6/6, with bugs used solely for 40% DR, DC as a primer for warp ammo, Collector Passive in weapons (32% better for Promethean/Collector weapons) and full shields.

I've played it paired with the Collector Sniper Rifle + warp ammo, and it's pretty beastly. You'll have to pulse the CSR like a Mattock, (to conserve ammo) but it's pretty good that way. Other classes are more suited to making the boom-booms, so I don't really bother trying to make him a power class.

Hmm, never even thought about speccing him that way. I'm going to give that a try. Trying to make things explode was kind of a pain with Dark Sphere cool-down, though it was lethal. Having such a small amount of shields was a fail, though.

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[MixMasterP]

MixMasterP[/url]":31f14fq6]

Medic Terrible[/url]":31f14fq6]

MixMasterP[/url]":31f14fq6]Awakened Collector is okay, but definitely is a hard Adept to pick up and make a powerhouse.

General consensus is that Collector Adept is best used 0/6/6/6/6, with bugs used solely for 40% DR, DC as a primer for warp ammo, Collector Passive in weapons (32% better for Promethean/Collector weapons) and full shields.

I've played it paired with the Collector Sniper Rifle + warp ammo, and it's pretty beastly. You'll have to pulse the CSR like a Mattock, (to conserve ammo) but it's pretty good that way. Other classes are more suited to making the boom-booms, so I don't really bother trying to make him a power class.

Hmm, never even thought about speccing him that way. I'm going to give that a try. Trying to make things explode was kind of a pain with Dark Sphere cool-down, though it was lethal. Having such a small amount of shields was a fail, though.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Wow, that was a fun respec. Thanks for the tip. The CSR isn't as bad as I thought it would be.

 

[Wraith]

I found the CSR just required some discipline. If you ever hit the very long cooldown you need to calm down and get some range. Might need to get back to that, i think i have an X now.

 

[cal_guy]

MixMasterP[/url]":2a3storm]Anyone have any opinions on the Venom Shotgun? Trying to figure out the best way to complete the challenge, as it seems to be less useful than the Scorpion.

I had a lot of trouble with the Venom Shotgun. It's just too inaccurate and slow firing for me. If it had the Scorpion straight line it would have probably become one of the most powerful weapons.

General consensus is that Collector Adept is best used 0/6/6/6/6, with bugs used solely for 40% DR, DC as a primer for warp ammo, Collector Passive in weapons (32% better for Promethean/Collector weapons) and full shields.

I've played it paired with the Collector Sniper Rifle + warp ammo, and it's pretty beastly. You'll have to pulse the CSR like a Mattock, (to conserve ammo) but it's pretty good that way. Other classes are more suited to making the boom-booms, so I don't really bother trying to make him a power class.

Thanks I always struggled to use the Collector Adept before, and now I'm having a blast with him using the Collector assault rifle and the particle rifle. It's a pity that the Collector SMG is so terrible otherwise you could use the power magnifier.

 

[Captainpuke]

Is anyone still getting the credit bug? I keep getting hit - almost 20% of the time. It is really sapping my desire to finish BotB. It's just too frustrating to see your 80k credits and 400k xp disappear after each match.

 

[Josh A.K.A CLF]

Captainpuke[/url]":33h0wrl9]Is anyone still getting the credit bug? I keep getting hit - almost 20% of the time. It is really sapping my desire to finish BotB. It's just too frustrating to see your 80k credits and 400k xp disappear after each match.

I get it, but since I'm working on N7 challenge and not hoarding credits anymore, I always notice it. Exiting MP always brings the credit/XP back immediately, so it's not such a huge deal. I see it maybe about 10-15% of the time.

 

[Captainpuke]

That works me only like 25% of the time. I wonder why it is not more consistent.

 

[Captainpuke]

On Sunday I played a match with a volus engi (or whichever one of those rolly-poleys that has the recon mine) who I think was both cheating and glitching.

He had a Crusader - a fine shotgun in its own right. But his fired with near assault rifle speed. A little slower than the harrier I was carrying but a little faster than the fastest finger in the west can pull a mattock. It also seemed to be able to fire between 12-20 shots per magazine - significantly more than the 4 you normally get that's for sure. The thing was a dps MONSTER. Gold bosses would go from full health and shields to almost no armor in the blink of an eye. I don't think he modified that carry capacity because he didn't manage to outscore me despite this glitch/cheat. Anyone know of a way to glitch the Crusader?

Hilariously, I beat him - but only because I was running a TGI+harrier+armor piercing VI+assault rifle amp III. It was painfully obvious to me, but the two N7 120's who were carrying rare I's probably wouldn't know that he was glitching/cheating and I wasn't.


In any case, we were doing hazard glacier and he did another very interesting thing. He launched his recon mine in the bottom room at approximately head height and the seeker swarm 'stuck' to it. The ball just sort of hung out there the rest of the match, and didn't appear to do damage when you walked through. However I did notice that I would occasionally start having a serious life drain effect that I was only able to survive with my stim packs - even where there was no enemy anywhere nearby. I think I was losing life to an invisible swarm. I can't be sure - and it definitely seemed like it was happening less than one might expect if you just had an invisible swarm moving through the level at all times. But I definitely ran into the life-drain in other places - mostly near the spawn. It was a very strange glitch to try to exploit.

 

[neuromaster]

Over the weekend I outscored a bunch of people as a Volus Adept running a GPSMG.

I laughed. And shield boosted. And laughed, and laughed, and laughed.

 

[Wraith]

Once the entities glitch on glacier you just have to leave, if you can't see the swarm you can't dodge it. The entities glitch a lot for me. Being unable to see the rain on benning is also quite annoying. He may not have caused that deliberately.

 

[Captainpuke]

Ah - interesting. I have never seen the storm glitch before. I assumed he did it intentionally since he managed to get the storm to stick onto a hovering recon mine that just floated in mid air.

 

[Josh A.K.A CLF]

Captainpuke[/url]":z28lq400]That works me only like 25% of the time. I wonder why it is not more consistent.

It only works if I do it immediately. If you wait too long or enter another lobby, you lose your credits. Like I said, I only notice it now because I have all of my characters constantly resetting, and immediately spend all credits on recruit packs. It probably happened a lot more frequently when I was hoarding credits and not promoting characters because it's hard to tell the difference at a glance between 2,876,012 and 2,801,241 credits, for example.

But when the arrow by powers disappears and you're back down to 2,500 credits when you should have 84,500, that kind of jumps out at you.

 

[Josh A.K.A CLF]

The Batarian Slasher is a friggin animal.

 

[MixMasterP]

I've hit the point where SPs are giving me LIV consumables and not an ultra rare in sight. Should I switch to PSPs or Arsenal Packs to increase my chances? I'm still missing the Blood Pack Punisher, the Black Widow, the Spitfire and the Lancer.

 

[Psion]

I had pretty good luck with Arsenal packs, but obviously YMMV. A lot.

If you don't need more medigel or level 3 whatever, yeah, move on up to Arsenals or PSPs. I don't know if there's any statistical evidence which indicates either being "better" for UR gun farming but I went with Arsenals because whatever.

also, hope you get the Lancer. It kinda owns.

 

[LodeRunner]

Psion[/url]":1h4fdxmg]I had pretty good luck with Arsenal packs, but obviously YMMV. A lot.

If you don't need more medigel or level 3 whatever, yeah, move on up to Arsenals or PSPs. I don't know if there's any statistical evidence which indicates either being "better" for UR gun farming but I went with Arsenals because whatever.

also, hope you get the Lancer. It kinda owns.

I don't know if the 60k pack has different stat weights than any of the 99k packs, but for a given number of credits, you can buy more of them (but I suspect the 'break even' point of not saving the extra 39k per pack is a long way out). I have double UR 60k and 99k packs, so it doesn't appear there's a any sort of capping on what a single pack can give you (I'm sure someone, somewhere has run the numbers/extracted the data/whatever that shows I'm wrong, as per usual).

And for me, a running joke after Arsenal and Reserve packs were released was wondering which guns I would get in my Reserve Pack, and which characters I would get in my Arsenal packs.

 

[Medic Terrible]

If you guys are having trouble with a class/character, Reddit's ME Co-op board has a nice list of class builds.

They've got a lot of in-depth posts and quite a few tips and tricks as well. I've learned quite a bit between this forum and theirs.

 

[Captainpuke]

Anyone playing the cabal? What config are people running with her?

I played a couple games with her - not sure how poison strike works or how useful it is. Does it hit anything in your path, or does it need to be close to where you end? It sometimes seems to hit and then sometimes not - is it like shockwave with a tiny cone of things that it actually hits? In any case, as much as I wish I could use it to put dots on everything, it seems more useful as a mobility enhancer than anything else. The initial damage plus dot just don't do enough damage.

The grenades that she carries are pretty huge, so that is self explanatory. But then there is Biotic Focus - an ability that confuses me. If I am remembering the tooltips correctly, it lasted for 15 seconds or something. And it's cooldown was just a few. Meaning you always want it on right? It offers damage resistance, speed increases, shield recharge, etc... Is there any reason to not be popping that ability always? Why is it not a toggle?

Use it to give you damage resistance and some nice melee or survivability. Her melee seems decently strong if you amp it up with fitness and weapons mods plus this ability. But she is not particularly tanky despite her damage resistance and decent health as compared to melee Krogans, Vorcha, etc. So.... what's the deal?

Posion strike in, try to melee a few things and get out? It just seems woefully low on damage for a kit that arrived with MC Hammer in it.

 

[Aphasia]

I finally think I might have found something that will fill a bit of the void that ME3 filled. But without a few of the annoyances.
- Warframe.

Actually similar in some regards, 4 player co-op missions, but not really as varied in abilities, more so in other ways. Wall running and swords are a good combination. The good and the bad thing is that you can scrounge for the weapons you think you'll like, and not having to rely on random luck for Everything. Bad thing, it's almost as bad as Diablo in requiring loot and farming good stuff to get better. And it doesn't have anything with regards to synergy and comboing from abilities that I've seen yet. Biotics and tech combo's is a great mechanic I hope we'll see more f in other games.

But what can I say, upgrades + loot + FPS + co-op all in one. Had it also had a true multiplayer mode reminiscent of BF3 with 2x16-32 people in it, I would be severely hooked by it. Right now it's fun as heck and so far more varied then ME3.

I might return to me3 at some point, but once the game stopped giving any guarantees for getting new things, it was kind of a wash just harvesting money for the unlocks.

 

[MixMasterP]

Aphasia[/url]":2j6jwvdy]I finally think I might have found something that will fill a bit of the void that ME3 filled. But without a few of the annoyances.
- Warframe.

Actually similar in some regards, 4 player co-op missions, but not really as varied in abilities, more so in other ways. Wall running and swords are a good combination. The good and the bad thing is that you can scrounge for the weapons you think you'll like, and not having to rely on random luck for Everything. Bad thing, it's almost as bad as Diablo in requiring loot and farming good stuff to get better. And it doesn't have anything with regards to synergy and comboing from abilities that I've seen yet. Biotics and tech combo's is a great mechanic I hope we'll see more f in other games.

But what can I say, upgrades + loot + FPS + co-op all in one. Had it also had a true multiplayer mode reminiscent of BF3 with 2x16-32 people in it, I would be severely hooked by it. Right now it's fun as heck and so far more varied then ME3.

I might return to me3 at some point, but once the game stopped giving any guarantees for getting new things, it was kind of a wash just harvesting money for the unlocks.

I can understand the feeling that it's getting stale. At this point, I'm just playing all of the Reckoning characters and trying to complete the challenge. Once I finish with the Warlord, Cabal, Suppressor, and Venom/Lancer (please let me unlock a Lancer!), I'll be moving on to my backlog.

Still, it's been a long run. 376 hours, over a 1000 games. Definitely worth the $35 Gold membership + $20 for the game.

 

[Wraith]

470+ hours for me, 1800 or so games. I'm not bothering with reckoning i don't think. The lancer isn't that great, i only have a I so perhaps later levels make it workable but i just couldn't get high enough dps to make it worth carrying, the coooldown is to long.

3 promotions to go, almost done with my least favorite classes. After i get another 4 levels as sentinel i've got infiltrator and engineer to do and those are fun and fast.

 

[Captainpuke]

I carefully planned out all my weapons, powers, character and map play, and I am still around ~100 games away from BotB. Those 200 wave challenges are just brutal for some of those characters.

In an attempt to amuse myself, I have been using the uncommon shotguns with all my bats, krogans and vorcha. They are relatively light allowing for pretty frequent power use (even if the powers in those classes tend to be a little weaker than power classes) and they aren't as bad as I remember. If you pop on an ammo power, a weapon power, a heavy barrel + pen, and take some weapons passives, you will be pleasantly surprised at how totally okay a lot of these weapons are in gold. I have led a couple matches as a bat sol with a Scimitar. Sure, my total damage output is probably not super great, and I am getting some extra kill points simply for having a fast firing weapon, but I am contributing a good portion.

The good part about the Bloodpack challenge is that most of the characters can just be outfitted with big guns and ammo powers and you can go straight to gold at lower levels with the decent health numbers they start with.

 

[Captainpuke]

Wraith[/url]":1idi9row]470+ hours for me, 1800 or so games. I'm not bothering with reckoning i don't think. The lancer isn't that great, i only have a I so perhaps later levels make it workable but i just couldn't get high enough dps to make it worth carrying, the coooldown is to long.

3 promotions to go, almost done with my least favorite classes. After i get another 4 levels as sentinel i've got infiltrator and engineer to do and those are fun and fast.

Are you saying your least favorite class is Sentinel? Cause that is craaaaaaaaaazy.

If I had to pick a least favorite class, I would definitely go Vanguards - not because I don't love charging - I do, but the way they made multiplayer makes them kind of suck. Between sync kills on 3/4 of the enemy types, and your total dependence on cooldown times (therefore necessitating a lesser dps weapon in general) it's a rough gold class. Most don't have serious dps powers either and limited combo ability. They tried to remedy this somewhat with later kits, but in general, I usually feel somewhat under-powered in gold as a vanguard compared to other classes.

If I had to choose the next, I would probably go soldier. Most of the soldier kits are great, and make your guns even more effective and awesome, but not having too many cool powers makes it a little boring imo. I like having something else to think about besides gunning everything down. That is just a personal preference thing though.