Man sues cops who jailed him for 37 days for trolling a Charlie Kirk vigil

Tobold

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Nick Weems is a liar who acknowledged during the illegal detention that there was no threat. Qualified immunity shouldn't apply in a case like this, where the LEO very clearly lies in a warrant application and refuses to correct the record to keep the victim in jail. The magistrate didn't exactly cover themselves in glory, but didn't set out to ruin an innocent man.
 
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itanod

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Any time I read an article where cops act emotionally and exact life-changing revenge on anyone who huwts thew feewings, I'm reminded that the only thing separating us from "third-world countries" we like to point and laugh at is a social compact, one we are working day and night to disintegrate until we're as lawless as Trump thinks the rest of the world is. What a bunch of pansies MAGA are.
 
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EthosPathosLegos

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So, basically there were no fucking adults in that room?
Welcome to the future. There are no adults. There are only assholes and damaged people pretending to be "disciplined", contributing to chaos and absurdity, with no critical thought or media literacy, running on biased opinions and echo chambers.
 
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terrydactyl

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So, basically there were no fucking adults in that room?
Power corrupts. And it's made worse by cops getting an exemption from being held responsible for their actions. This is one of those rare cases. Usually cops can't be sued, only their municipality, meaning taxpayers pay for bad cops.
 
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Alyeska

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To quote Ted from Scrubs.

Girlfriend gonna get paid.

Yes qualified immunity is a thing, but it has to do with police in their duties as police. Framing someone for a crime they didn't commit, for a crime that didn't even happen, is so far beyond what qualified immunity could conceivably cover.

What infuriates me is that in most states it is not a crime for government officials to knowingly violate constitutional rights, and jail people for exercising constitutional rights. You can be arrested for a crime you on a law you didn't know existed, but a police officer can violate your constitutional rights knowing he's doing it and that isn't actually a criminal act.
 
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atomic.banjo

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galvanash

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Can't we just get Perry County sheriff Nick Weems to arrest Trump then? I mean Trump's last socila media post has definitely incited 100x more hysteria than anything this guy did and he has so far repeatedly demonstrated complete indifference about having done it, pretty much gloating about it even.

Just saying, If this sheriff guy thinks this arrest was justified he HAS to feel the same way about what Trump did right?
 
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MHStrawn

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Welcome to the future. There are no adults. There are only assholes and damaged people pretending to be "disciplined", contributing to chaos and absurdity, with no critical thought or media literacy, running on biased opinions and echo chambers.
As it turns out, the Internet might have been a really bad idea. Oh well, welcome to human nature
 
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Retrosal

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To quote Ted from Scrubs.

Girlfriend gonna get paid.

Yes qualified immunity is a thing, but it has to do with police in their duties as police. Framing someone for a crime they didn't commit, for a crime that didn't even happen, is so far beyond what qualified immunity could conceivably cover.

What infuriates me is that in most states it is not a crime for government officials to knowingly violate constitutional rights, and jail people for exercising constitutional rights. You can be arrested for a crime you on a law you didn't know existed, but a police officer can violate your constitutional rights knowing he's doing it and that isn't actually a criminal act.
Welcome to America!
 
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Wickwick

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What infuriates me is that in most states it is not a crime for government officials to knowingly violate constitutional rights, and jail people for exercising constitutional rights. You can be arrested for a crime you on a law you didn't know existed, but a police officer can violate your constitutional rights knowing he's doing it and that isn't actually a criminal act.
It may not be a local or state criminal act. However, every such act is a Federal crime.

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242 - Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law
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This statute makes it a crime for any person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive or cause to be deprived from any person those rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the U.S.
 
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Fatesrider

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Disgusting. Everyone involved should be jailed and removed from policing. There's zero reason they should be allowed to get away with this.

In reality nothing will happen sadly. Sometimes I get why vigilantes happen even when they absolutely shouldn't.
Keep in mind that the colonists demanding freedom (AKA the "founding fathers") were the 18th century's version of domestic terrorists. Moreover, MOST people in the colonies had no shits to give about the "war for independence" (less than 10% actively participated). Had it not been for France beating up the English in Europe and for some of the aid they provided, we'd still be flying the Union Jack instead of the stars and bars.

You don't need to get "everyone" riled up to enact regime change. You only need enough of them to do it so you don't piss off those who aren't already involved.
 
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Power corrupts. And it's made worse by cops getting an exemption from being held responsible for their actions. This is one of those rare cases. Usually cops can't be sued, only their municipality, meaning taxpayers pay for bad cops.
Sure.

But that isn't the problem.

The problem is that every person in that city, county, state, cares more about watching sports then they do about holding officials responsible.

The publics apathy and lack of interest is why corrupt power exists.
 
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sir1963nz

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Qualified immunity.

Civil asset forfeiture.

This shit has gotta go, and more besides.
But FREEDOM, USA USA USA...
But yeah, in reality the USA was never that great, always been racist, etc.
Only thing that has changed is the internet , cameras on phones and more people sharing this shit internationally.
 
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Jeff S

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To quote Ted from Scrubs.

Girlfriend gonna get paid.

Yes qualified immunity is a thing, but it has to do with police in their duties as police. Framing someone for a crime they didn't commit, for a crime that didn't even happen, is so far beyond what qualified immunity could conceivably cover.

What infuriates me is that in most states it is not a crime for government officials to knowingly violate constitutional rights, and jail people for exercising constitutional rights. You can be arrested for a crime you on a law you didn't know existed, but a police officer can violate your constitutional rights knowing he's doing it and that isn't actually a criminal act.

Well, back before January of 2025, the Department of Justice used to have a civil rights division, it was against Federal law for ANY police officer (though not always enforced perfectly, there was enforcement to some degree), or any other government official, to violate someone's civil rights under color of law:

(Screenshot, before Bondi makes this disappear from the DoJ website)

So it in theory doesn't matter that states don't make it a crime, because Congress made it a federal crime. However, Trump has decided that he's not going to enforce any laws he personally disagrees with. Because, in a hundred different ways, Trump is an oathbreaker - he breaks his oath of office multiple times a day, every day.

(Archive.org link, because again, I suspect Trump and Bondi will soon get around to removing this from the DoJ website)

https://web.archive.org/web/2025100...ce.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law


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