A little more ground clearance and a lot more cargo room make the bZ compelling.
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It has a NACS port. Surprised they limited it to 150kW charging though. Looks like a nice option for the EV market, but for some reason the Toyota naming scheme just gets to me for their EVs.That's an impressive package at that price. I didn't see it listed in the article - what kind of charging port are they using? I know everyone is onboard with NACS now, but just curious because I know some manufactures are dragging their feet.
Man, you're not kidding. As a pretty happy owner of a 2020 Outback, that 2026 is...aesthetically challenged. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I rather like driving a modern station wagon, even though I know it's really just an SUV in sheep's clothing.For the longest time, Subaru offered a near-perfect solution in the Outback, but the new one is much more SUV than wagon.
Looks a lot like an electric station wagon
90% of winter handling is on the driver, not the car. I've spent many a winter in New England driving a Corolla past pickup trucks and SUVs stuck in snowbanks because the drivers assumed that "4x4/AWD = drives the same in snow".Ok, so, thanks for the California test drive: now drive it in a Canadian winter or a north east US winter and let us know how it handles
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Other way around. SUVs are just station wagons writ large.Man, you're not kidding. As a pretty happy owner of a 2020 Outback, that 2026 is...aesthetically challenged. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I rather like driving a modern station wagon, even though I know it's really just an SUV in sheep's clothing.
Probably would still buy another Outback if, God forfend, we had to replace it for some reason.
What problem do you think those regions would give it?Ok, so, thanks for the California test drive: now drive it in a Canadian winter or a north east US winter and let us know how it handles
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Saves them $3.Why would they use an FLA for an EV?!? That 12V battery should be an AGM, when the factory battery died that would definitely be what I'd switch it out for.
I wish the instrument cluster was traditional, and not mounted higher like it is on the other bZs and the Prius.
And havin' a four-bye means you don't need to get winter tires, dontcha know?90% of winter handling is on the driver, not the car. I've spent many a winter in New England driving a Corolla past pickup trucks and SUVs stuck in snowbanks because the drivers assumed that "4x4/AWD = drives the same in snow".
I have the same complaints coming from a long-range Mach-E. I’m ready for my next EV to have much faster DC charging. 300 miles of range needs to be table stakes in America, land of road trips and bad infrastructure. My car often shows closer to 200 miles of range fully charged because of cold weather and highway driving. Of course I don’t need 300 miles every day but I’d like to be able to go skiing in the mountains or to drive through benighted Wyoming to Yellowstone.260 mile range on that sized car ?
No frunk space either ?
What charge port ?
What’s the battery size ?
Which EV segment are they competing with ?
The Rivian R2 or Model YL will eat its lunch (if it’s made available in the US)
SUVs were originally passenger vehicles built on truck frames, whereas station wagons were sedans with an enlarged greenhouse. They may be much more similar in architecture today, but I would argue that there's still a distinction.Other way around. SUVs are just station wagons writ large.
While I agree in general, local terrain is also a compelling factor.90% of winter handling is on the driver, not the car. I've spent many a winter in New England driving a Corolla past pickup trucks and SUVs stuck in snowbanks because the drivers assumed that "4x4/AWD = drives the same in snow".
Not only are they immensely capable in sand, dirt, and snow,
Not sure why I was downvoted above because those are all valid points when you spend that much money on a car and it will give buyers are really bad impression of EV's, never mind that Toyota actively lobbied against EV's in the USI have the same complaints coming from a long-range Mach-E. I’m ready for my next EV to have much faster DC charging. 300 miles of range needs to be table stakes in America, land of road trips and bad infrastructure. My car often shows closer to 200 miles of range fully charged because of cold weather and highway driving. Of course I don’t need 300 miles every day but I’d like to be able to go skiing in the mountains or to drive through benighted Wyoming to Yellowstone.
Although, I do appreciate the high clearance here that Ford didn’t bother putting in their own supposed dirt machine Mach-E Rally. And the many knobs and buttons. And the actual real physical door handles.
The steering wheel is in the way of the speedometer and other indicators. It's like they designed it for a batman style wheel. I've had a Bz for almost 2 years, and it's the single most annoying feature. (We had a Prius loaner for 2 months and it was the same.)This is a complaint I often hear, and I’ve always wondered why the traditional mounting is preferred. It seems much worse to have to take your eyes off the road and look down through the steering wheel into the instrument cluster to be able to see even the basics like speed. Having a display directly below the road where you can focus on the road ahead and see speed in your peripheral vision thanks to the mirror trick for depth they use seems like a way better option, second only to the heads up display that’s becoming more common.
Granted, I’ve been driving a Prius so long that it’s normal to me now, while the rental cars that don’t have that same speedometer setup feel old and clunky, so I have some degree of bias, but I’ve always wanted to hear what the argument is for the through-the-wheel approach.
When you get stuck in traffic, EV range actually goes up, assuming you mean stuck on the highway.Damnit this checks a lot of boxes but the range is concerning. Got some family land on the north side of the state we regularly visit and it's about 210 miles. Add in some traffic and snow and such and I would be expecting to need to charge this somewhere along the trip and that's going to make an obnoxious trip with kids and dogs even more obnoxious.
The steering wheel is in the way of the speedometer and other indicators. It's like they designed it for a batman style wheel. I've had a Bz for almost 2 years, and it's the single most annoying feature. (We had a Prius loaner for 2 months and it was the same.)
Wait till you start thinking about a spare tire.Does it have a glove compartment? (I truly hate that I have to ask that question.)
Depends.......When you get stuck in traffic, EV range actually goes up, assuming you mean stuck on the highway.
With dogs (and I would assume kids), a 200 mile trip for me usually means I'm going to stop once to let them out anyway. Hell, I usually need a stop to piss on a 3+ hour trip, especially when I'm consuming liquid caffeine to keep me going. Plug the car in while you go take a leak and you're good to go.
260 mile range on that sized car ?
No frunk space either ?
What charge port ?
What’s the battery size ?
Which EV segment are they competing with ?
The Rivian R2 or Model YL will eat its lunch (if it’s made available in the US)