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Jeff3F

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Hi Folks. I will edit this to make it more substantial.

We want EVERYONE who might be playing in our Annual AlphaMeridian Chess Tournament to (right now) sign up for a Lichess account and begin using it, to see if you all like it to replace chess.com.

I’m going to post and edit later (sorry).

Also please post your Lichess name if different from your Ars username so we can find you next time!

Edit to add: I’m jeff3f on Lichess…please fiend me!
 
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I will not play the tournament (I'm a bad player and I don't have the availability), but I've always found the tournament pretty... sweet? I'm glad it's considering a move to Lichess- I really like the project (I even got a patch in to fix an issue I had on an odd Android device). The puzzles feature is pretty nifty in my opinion.
 
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Jeff3F

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@Apteris it won’t let me either. Maybe takes time or requires a bit of chess first.

@koala it’s okay no matter your chess level. I had a lot of anxiety about playing chess against folks and for years did not participate in the tournament. I’m glad I started though. Also, you can spectate and watch some of the games. Some players are always far beyond me and some aren’t as good as I am (I tend to move quickly and can blunder). As Qui-Gon Jinn tells us, “there’s always a bigger fish”. Also he must’ve said something about George Lucas that got edited out of the movie.
 

s@nDOk@n

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As I mentioned on the tournament's thread, I will not be part of Lichess in the future. I was some time ago and found it to be a bad all around experience, so chess.com being as stupid as it needs to be to serve the lowest denominator denizen of these dark days, I will stay there. If you guys decide to move the tournament there, it's no big deal, my non participation will not be important to the success of the great Memorial Tournament. Just posted for the record, seeing this is a Lichess dedicated thread.
 
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@koala it’s okay no matter your chess level. I had a lot of anxiety about playing chess against folks and for years did not participate in the tournament. I’m glad I started though. Also, you can spectate and watch some of the games. Some players are always far beyond me and some aren’t as good as I am (I tend to move quickly and can blunder). As Qui-Gon Jinn tells us, “there’s always a bigger fish”. Also he must’ve said something about George Lucas that got edited out of the movie.
Thanks for the encouragement. I might espectate. But really I'm not even sure if I could commit to playing in a timely manner, so I'd rather not overcommit.

(My last chess tournament- perhaps 20 years ago was quite funny. A friend of mine "invited" me to a simultaneous match, because apparently they didn't have enough players or whatever. I appeared in the venue a bit late, and I was surprised to learn I was the exhibitor. And of course, I'm nowhere near a decent player, much less a simultaneous player. But everyone was very gracious to me, they even gave me a small trophy, and I have a story I can always explain...)
 

Jeff3F

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As I mentioned on the tournament's thread, I will not be part of Lichess in the future. I was some time ago and found it to be a bad all around experience, so chess.com being as stupid as it needs to be to serve the lowest denominator denizen of these dark days, I will stay there. If you guys decide to move the tournament there, it's no big deal, my non participation will not be important to the success of the great Memorial Tournament. Just posted for the record, seeing this is a Lichess dedicated thread.
This is why we’re getting into it now to see if it’s viable. I myself don’t like Lichess without having spent much time on it, so I’m getting more into it to make a better judgement. Because some folks really prefer it and it might be a lot easier for @dferrantino to setup.

I like chess.com, it’s polished, but it’s also greedy-guts and annoying as hell with regard to things like notifications not being timely or if they’re turned on they don’t respect what I want to be notified about with more granular controls (I think). Also, they screwed @Noodle and it’s not okay to screw my online acquaintances! Only we get to do that! :)

Anyway, I’d be bummed if @s@nDOk@n or anyone stayed away due to platform. We want folks to show up, have fun, and play in a timely fashion (sorry @koala we gotta be timely, sorta!).
 

s@nDOk@n

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I get it Jeff3F, but I was a member before, and they fucked up my account not recognizing my credentials twice! I had my account details saved not only on 2 browsers, but I also save my logins on a .csv that is present on several pendrives, etc. I mean, I am careful with that data, and these fucks forced me to open another account (twice, as I said) to use their shitty UI implemented over an obviously "forgetful" platform. So, I started wondering, if they are so stupid to lose my login twice, what are they doing with the data they receive? I said goodbye and I will never g back there. Words were exchanged via email with some low level morons there that make it a no-no for me to step on that place.
 

Apteris

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I’m not digging Lichess though I need to give it more of a chance over time I think. I have a game running with @Apteris and I wonder if one of us will just timeout heh. It’s like playing a game against @dferrantino (I keed, I keed!) :)
Yeah, sorry about the wait. I'll install the app on my phone, that should help with me remembering this.
 

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I like chess.com, it’s polished, but it’s also greedy-guts and annoying as hell with regard to things like notifications not being timely or if they’re turned on they don’t respect what I want to be notified about with more granular controls (I think). Also, they screwed @Noodle and it’s not okay to screw my online acquaintances! Only we get to do that! :)

Anyway, I’d be bummed if @s@nDOk@n or anyone stayed away due to platform. We want folks to show up, have fun, and play in a timely fashion (sorry @koala we gotta be timely, sorta!).
I like Chess.com, too, mostly. Although I will say it's funny where they choose to polish things up. They often opt for fancy bells and whistles rather than useful chess features. For instance, the iOS app doesn't support predictive moves after decades of requests, but they have time to revamp puzzles with a fancy graphical advancement ladder. And since it's not possible to go down a rung, ever, the ladder really measures only how much time one spends doing puzzles. (Classic puzzle behavior—i.e. having a rating that fluctuates according to solves and misses—is still available and I recommend using that instead.) As far as I can tell, they've made it so you can't even get into analysis mode without running Game Review first. And while it's kind of fun to be told "this is a blunder" and have a second try at it, the analysis is so shallow that it's often misleadingly inaccurate.

I haven't been using Lichess either, because I don't think they support any kind of grace period on daily chess timeouts, without which it's a waste of time for me to start games. I know that it has superior analysis tools, and they don't paywall doing more than N puzzles per day or whatnot. I recall it being about the same experience when playing games, except that the confirm/cancel buttons are on opposite sides from Chess.com's and I kept tripping on that. I am neither for or against using it for the tourney, except inasmuch as it might affect participation.

Anyway, it's gratifying that people care about my experience, but I do not think it should affect where the tournament is held. I was 1) venting; 2) making excuses for myself :p; and 3) thought at most it would be a small influence on someone considering subscribing. The primary consideration should be ease of organization for our wonderful tourney directors, secondarily appealing to the greatest number of players, and thirdly any effect on tournament play (e.g. timely move notifications, mobile access to predictive moves).
 

Apteris

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The primary consideration should be ease of organization for our wonderful tourney directors, secondarily appealing to the greatest number of players, and thirdly any effect on tournament play (e.g. timely move notifications, mobile access to predictive moves).
I agree with this order of priorities. And I hardly ever play chess anyway, so I'm not that bothered to begin with.

That said, as a programmer, Lichess just feels better. It feels like something a talented programmer created out of love, whereas chess.com feels very much like corporate software. I don't know if I can explain it better than that, probably my subconscious just associates animations that are reliably smooth and non-stuttery with quality, but that's how it comes across to me.
 

Noodle

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I have created an Ars Technica team on Lichess. It seems like a good way for us to find each other. I put my Ars Tehnica name in my user profile, and I have also created a forum thread for us to let each other know who we are when we join the team. It appears that teams must be accessed from the web.

Ars Technica team at Lichess

The entry code is AlphaMeridian.

From what I'm seeing, and maybe I'm missing something, all tournaments at Lichess are real-time games only. Looks like it won't run the kind of tournament we want. However, having a dedicated team page on the site could be very useful in finding and keeping tabs on tourney games.
 
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I have created an Ars Technica team on Lichess. It seems like a good way for us to find each other. I put my Ars Tehnica name in my user profile, and I have also created a forum thread for us to let each other know who we are when we join the team. It appears that teams must be accessed from the web.

I've joined, but don't appear to be able to post yet. Just says "Play some games!" so, maybe I need to do that.