LG TVs continue down advertising rabbit hole with new screensaver ads
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Oh. Go fuck yourself LG.
I guess I'm never plugging my LG TV back into ethernet and it's never been on Wifi.
Maybe there are people who are fine with ads for a cheaper product. I'm not one of them. You show me an ad when my expectation was to never see ads and I'm out. Done. I will never buy a product from you again.
I guess I'm never plugging my LG TV back into ethernet and it's never been on Wifi.
Maybe there are people who are fine with ads for a cheaper product. I'm not one of them. You show me an ad when my expectation was to never see ads and I'm out. Done. I will never buy a product from you again.
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I would never see it, but that's still such horseshit that LG is on my shitlist for my next TV.
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i've been happy using a LG C1 for living room PC gaming, but this is going to rapidly sour me on LG if I see ads popping up while the PC is asleep.
I'm out of the loop - is everyone doing this? or are there other high-quality gaming TV display brands that haven't yet signalled they are going to begin enshittification?
I'm out of the loop - is everyone doing this? or are there other high-quality gaming TV display brands that haven't yet signalled they are going to begin enshittification?
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Huh, I thought LG was supposed to be one of the better TV makers. Guess if the time ever comes to buy an OLED TV, I'll have to find a different OEM.
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LG: "We commissioned important reseach on this"
Us: "did you ask if people wanted this feature"
LG: "I'm sorry, how is that relevant? Didn't you see that part about brand awareness?"
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Brilliant LG!
So my next TV choices are ...
So my next TV choices are ...
- LG with ads on screensaver
- Samsung ... with ads everywhere to the point I recently had to factory reset my TV and keep it offline because their updates filled the disk and bricked it.
- HiSense ... with notorious picture and build issues. Faulty Hynex ram batch anyone?
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My desktop monitor is an AORUS FO48U, which is basically just a rebadged C1/C2 minus the smart TV stuff and plus DP and KVM. If the TV in my living room breaks down again, I'll probably just mount that monitor and go back to something older at my desk.
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People make fun of me for getting business TVs (think menu boards at a restaurant) instead of whatever is new or easy. This is why I do that! I don't want my TV purchase (rare as it may be) to be a research project to make sure I don't get some ad laden junk! How long before these TVs just ship with ads and you can't avoid it by not plugging it in? Or these TVs need a constant network connection?
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And this is why I don't connect my "smart TV" to the Internet and use a different streaming device. All brands are moving towards this. If I remember correctly, Visio got in trouble for capturing what you were watching and tracking a few years back.
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Did they analyze impact to brand reputation and balance sheet impacts due to returns? We're not the sort to have a TV in this household. And all of this just serves to kill any ambition we would have to acquire a Big Screen if we had the space to do so!
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I know that my solution isn't easily within reach for most muggles.
But this is one of the reasons my TV isn't connected to the internet. I drive it from a laptop's HDMI port and absolutely everything we watch comes from my NAS.
I see no ads whatsoever.
But this is one of the reasons my TV isn't connected to the internet. I drive it from a laptop's HDMI port and absolutely everything we watch comes from my NAS.
I see no ads whatsoever.
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The adverts tell us LG means "Life is Good." With this, it's more that they're trying to get Lucky and strike Gold with spyware.
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Weirdly pro-LG tone to the article, especially at the end. No market shifts or competitive forces are forcing LG to do this. They are just greedy. If the TV market is too saturated, too bad, make other devices that people will actually pay money for.
And that goes for the rest of the manufacturers, too.
Odd that it's stated closer to the top that it's up to manufacturers to decide how far they'll go. Sounds like a job for the government, or failing that, for consumers.
Vote with your dollars.
Christ!
And that goes for the rest of the manufacturers, too.
Odd that it's stated closer to the top that it's up to manufacturers to decide how far they'll go. Sounds like a job for the government, or failing that, for consumers.
Vote with your dollars.
Christ!
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I post this from time to time in "smart tv" threads, but just as a reminder or FYI for those who aren't aware: while the trend in the consumer TV space has been towards more rent extraction any way they can find it, it is still possible to get TVs without this stuff, albeit at a premium. TVs are still made for business usage in areas like conference rooms, wall displays etc. They're often found under labeling like "commercial digital signage", "hospitality display", "business display" or the like, sometimes seemingly trying to avoid using "TV" (if being cynical maybe to make them harder for normal people to discover and confuse them if they do). But they're nice panels aimed at serious running hours, without this sort of junk (which would give enterprise IT conniptions) and can have very useful feature support like 802.1x authentication which so many devices still lack. Players like NEC have even advertised their use of an RPi compute and winked at lack of spyware for some of their products, but lots of major "smart TV" providers also have a commercial lineup. And they don't have to be radically expensive at all either, something like NEC's PN-ME502 is $913, not thousands of dollars.
I think they're well worth considering, particularly for the Ars and other technical crowds. Granted I suppose for people who truly want built-in netflix or the like without connecting something like a Roku or Apple TV it's less optimal. But even they might change their tunes back to the concept of separate boxes and normal panels if they dislike all the ads and data tracking. I have a couple of such displays filling our TV needs and they work as advertised, integrate into a more advanced network well, with no BS.
I think they're well worth considering, particularly for the Ars and other technical crowds. Granted I suppose for people who truly want built-in netflix or the like without connecting something like a Roku or Apple TV it's less optimal. But even they might change their tunes back to the concept of separate boxes and normal panels if they dislike all the ads and data tracking. I have a couple of such displays filling our TV needs and they work as advertised, integrate into a more advanced network well, with no BS.
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Why not though?
Edited well after the fact to add that I'm being very cynical here. This is absolutely an easy gate to get through.
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Um I'm confused a bit. If I'm not watching my TV, it's off. If my TV is on, then I am watching content. So when would I see these ads if I had an LG TV?
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I can't wait till they start shipping panels that require an internet connection and Wolf, Ram, and Hart approved EULA agreed to for their HDMI ports and screen sharing to work. Of course, that'll never fly in the EU, but here in the land of free (market)....
Honestly, I'm wondering when we're going to go full Ubik and implement tap to pay $5 for 24 hours of (extra) ad free viewing on your devices...
Honestly, I'm wondering when we're going to go full Ubik and implement tap to pay $5 for 24 hours of (extra) ad free viewing on your devices...
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I do the same but... It comes up in a lot of the comment threads on articles like this that we'll probably eventually see cellular modems in them.
Faraday cage living room!
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How long before they just inject it into your HDMI stream? Yes, I have an AppleTV setup so I don't actually ever use the "smart" stuff on my TV, but that's the next step and $20 says they'll pay-off whomever they need to at the HDMI consortium to make that okay.
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If you pause content, they may show ads.
If you hang out on the main menu, they may show ads after n seconds of no interaction (remote clicking).
And, who knows, they may eventually turn on your TV to show ads, maybe muted? I can totally see that happening.
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Jesus why is everything about freaking ads now? If you aren't showing ads you are collecting user data to sell to advertisers. I don't understand how all of this advertising is even worth it to the companies advertising stuff. I don't remember the last time I saw an ad that actually resulted in me purchasing something.
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because it would reduce sales. Given a choice, who wants to buy a TV that they can see is showing ads?
LG needs to sneak it into the home.
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My 7 year old LG tv is blissfully unconnected to the internet and always has been. Just my PS5 and my Apple TV are connected and that's it. The whole internet attached TV thing is absurd. Not long ago (5, 6 years maybe?) I read an article about TVs with viruses. Jesus.
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You can put the TV into showroom mode using the engineer mode. That kills the ads to an extent. But in the showroom they are more just innocuous tiles vs the constant video ads within a tile.
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if you pause content and wait for a while, or your gaming console/PC sleeps so no more signal is going to the display, the LG TV enters a screensaver mode.
presumably screensaver mode becomes ad mode with this "feature."
particularly bad because for pause content cases, the point of the screensaver is ostensibly to reduce burn-in risk inherent to OLED so it's kind of a desirable feature to have.
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Ironically, LG used to be Goldstar, which made the shittiest VHS players ever.
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