Leaving the V8 in the past: The all-electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door
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Damn, that thing is ugly. Is the tacky fake engine noise internal to the cockpit or are we all about to be treated to some oil magnate's heirs 'revving' a non existent engine?
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No, that's in reference to the CLA. US pricing for the GT hasn't been announced yet but the outgoing car (which is a PHEV not a BEV) was $158k so expect something similarly expensive for the GT 63.
This is the CLA: https://meincmagazine.com/cars/2025/12/2026-mercedes-cla-first-drive-entry-level-doesnt-mean-basic/
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Strange that you say that, to me most EVs look like shit but this one I really like.
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YASA are a UK company founded in 2008 and working out of Oxford making fantastic motors. But it looks like yet another typical story about UK high tech, where truly excellent ideas, science and engineering end up being foreign owned or exploited because no one in the country is willing to invest in anything but property and financial services.
Edit to add: Fully Charged did a nice interview with the folks at YASA this year and another 14 years ago when they first started up.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Hl4c1iZK0
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m_iIbX0gmA
Edit to add: Fully Charged did a nice interview with the folks at YASA this year and another 14 years ago when they first started up.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Hl4c1iZK0
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m_iIbX0gmA
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This is something that particularly excites me about EVs, you don't need to trade power and efficiency if done right.
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It isn't "no one in the country". It's the risk averse culture of British banks and investors, the people who actually have the money.
The result is that we've mostly lost the manufacturing that can utilise the R&D.
Except in biotechnology, where a new railway station opens at the end of June south of Cambridge to deal with the traffic to our national biotechnology site. We can do some stuff.
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Agreed. It just looks like a Merc, as it should, instead of like someone took a baseball bat and sticker sheet to a studio clay model
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Well yes, I've put significant money into several UK software businesss, however, convincing UK institutions to take a look was a non starter.
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I missed their name in the first paragraph or so and was thinking it had to be them when I saw the specs on the graphics. Started reading and realized yes this motor I've been seeing a ton of info about on youtube is being utilized in real ways that are paying off like predicted.
The tech as I understand it from the vids is super impressive and boasts massive weight reductions for huge power gains which we see here.
My hope is in 10 more years we'll see these trickle down from the performance market to the more casual consumer market and EV's will be sporting 400+mile ranges easily. Even keeping the same batteries as today, but cutting 15-20% of the weight might enable a lot of that improvement.
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Did you guys see the ass of this thing?
The profile looks great. The front looks like a Merc Catfish, but I'll agree that it still looks like a Merc.
The ass looks like Mercedes that's coming to mind, and it doesn't look good either.
A friend sent me pictures of it earlier this morning, starting with the front 3/4 view. I said it looked good except for the catfish mouth. Then he sent the back and I cried a little. Then he sent the interior...
The color is great though. Hopefully switching to EVs also provides an opportunity to switch to cars that come in color.
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First time in my entire life that I've looked at a Mercedes and thought, Taycan ripoff.
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We are only just starting to see the kind of evolution of the tech that gas engines have been seeing for decades. There is huge money pouring into these fields which can and will drive innovation in performance motors and medium scale storage solutions.
Phone batteries drove some massive innovations now we're looking at several billion a year more added to the pot to really make things cook.
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4.5 miles per kwh in a 2.4 tonnne car with that much oomph is seriously impressive.
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That’s how it should have been from the start. Except a certain egocentric guy with the initials Elon Musk decided that his cars needed to look like spaceships. Tesla’s success led automakers to imitate them.
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Simply being smaller and lighter weight means you need less stuff to make them, which means less processing, less shipping costs and so on. Refining the manufacturing process will be the thing to bring prices down, radial flux motors and internal combustion engines have had over 100 years of refinement. You also don't need 1000HP for an econobox!
But 1000HP from a thing the size of two dinner plates is nuts.
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Nothing wrong with that - the designer(s) probably really like it too.
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Can’t wait to buy this in ten to 15 years. That is, if it has full media control on the steering wheel which probably it doesn’t.
Also knowing most of this tech will come down in price eventually and will power more „normal“ cars is a very bright future. We already have the CLA which is great in terms of technology (not so much for media controls and the general Mercedes interior)
Also knowing most of this tech will come down in price eventually and will power more „normal“ cars is a very bright future. We already have the CLA which is great in terms of technology (not so much for media controls and the general Mercedes interior)
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I think the ass looks great and the front looks a little off. Styling is subjective.
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I feel like with that kind of acceleration, owners would need some kind of subscription for new tires after a few scorching launches.
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Read the article, read the comments, and I'm still boggling over the small size of those motors.
From Wikipedia:
Just wow.
From Wikipedia:
Just wow.
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TLDR: "Quantity has a Quality all its own"
AFAIK, you don't need much torque for a drone prop motor as they only need to spin plastic props in the air (versus spinning rubber wheels against the round). The real "power" Ukraine drones is their affordability and quantity, being able to take out a $50,000 Russian Shahed-style drone with a $2,000 interceptor drone is a key part of why Ukraine is being able to continue to fight above its weight class.
So in the short term these axial motors are good for what they are being used for now, relatively low volume, high performance situations.
I've read the tradeoff of axial motors compared to traditional radial motors is complexity/difficult of manufacturing and cost (which typical comes with new complex tech that is still low production volume).
AFAIK, you don't need much torque for a drone prop motor as they only need to spin plastic props in the air (versus spinning rubber wheels against the round). The real "power" Ukraine drones is their affordability and quantity, being able to take out a $50,000 Russian Shahed-style drone with a $2,000 interceptor drone is a key part of why Ukraine is being able to continue to fight above its weight class.
So in the short term these axial motors are good for what they are being used for now, relatively low volume, high performance situations.
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Seriously, people don't realise what a big deal this is.
I could strip the axles, motor, gearbox out of my old 4wd. Then slap these on on all 4 wheels, chuck batteries in the engine, and...
My awesome vintage 4wd is now dramatically faster, cleaner, and cheaper to run.
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Not really.
First putting them on all 4 wheels increases your unsprung weight (part of the reason in-wheel motors aren't commonly done). Without with axles/motors gearbox you have no differential and so you would need to write software to get the 4 motors to coordinate properly. Then also you need some type of cooling for each motor individually (even electric motors need cooling).
Unless you are only putting in like 50 miles of range in the engine bay, you are dramatically unbalancing your Jeep if you through all of the batteries in the trunk.
Finally, while "cheaper" to run, you've also just listed tens of thousands of dollars worth components (this YASA axial motor is $13k per motor, a battery pack is $5-10k likely), plus software and labor. This is why it is never cost effective to try and convert a beater vehicle into an EV (you can do it for fun and nostalgia, but it isn't for cost).
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Can confirm. When property speculators make so much money trying to get cash into a productive but lower margin business is really hard.
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Well I guess there’s something out there for everyone? FWIW I liked the Bangle-mangle BMWs, not so much the Frank Stevenson Ferraris. Not a fan of the current Mercedes catfish jowls but I can’t call it boring.
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Fun counter-bit from that YASA visit video: in-wheel motors can replace physical brakes, so nee-ner to brake disks and hi to disgusting regen performance braking.
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Incredible engineering, great efficiency, dog shit styling. MB’s front end styling this generation is absolutely terrible. The concept was vastly better executed, more unique, and truer to brand history.
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Don’t get too worked up over arbitrary marketing terms adapted from horse drawn carriages. Likewise for vaguely defined and basically meaningless vehicle categories.
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Drive one of these over a typical American speed bump, and you'll have a very stylish balance swing.
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