Cheadle is doing a great job with that role. Rhodey was always the strait-laced guy, the counterweight to Tony Stark, and Skrullification let the actor hit an entirely different set of notes.
It's Skrulls all the way down: Marvel's Secret Invasion (Premieres June 21) (SPOILERS)
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Maybe I missed it but do the humans know that the skrulls are keeping the originals on ice for their brains? Like, G'iah knows but maybe didn't share that info with her dad or Fury for various plot/character reasons.
Fury has to know, after working with Talos for so long. I suppose that if the Skrulls have to keep the originals on ice then that might explain his lack of concern. But it really ought to have been touched on in the show by now.
Gi'ah is the only one who has been to the facility. She is the only one who has seen the setup. Not really sure how much she shared with Talos nor how much he shared with Fury.
Talos called her to get the info about the command code to cancel that attack. So it's possible they know the other Skrulls have to keep the humans alive.
Talos called her to get the info about the command code to cancel that attack. So it's possible they know the other Skrulls have to keep the humans alive.
I think this is another fine example of how the MCU doesn't know how to stick the landing in the D+ shows.
Welp, now that it’s done, I can conclude that this was easily my least-favorite Disney+ Marvel show; it’s the only one I’ve actively disliked. Dreary, unfun, unimaginative, with predictable and uninteresting plot twists, culminating in people punching each other. Dumb, speechifying villain who makes no sense (’you made me kill some people, which broke me, so I’ll show you; I’ll kill all the people!’).
It really didn’t help that the plot was a cornucopia of anti-semitic conspiracy theories: sneaky inhumans impersonate real humans in key positions with the intent of killing everyone and destroying human civilization; sounds familiar! The show also pretty explicitly linked the bad Skrulls to the Jews.
The big kiss at the end was touching, though. That’s about the only good thing I have to say about this mess.
It really didn’t help that the plot was a cornucopia of anti-semitic conspiracy theories: sneaky inhumans impersonate real humans in key positions with the intent of killing everyone and destroying human civilization; sounds familiar! The show also pretty explicitly linked the bad Skrulls to the Jews.
The big kiss at the end was touching, though. That’s about the only good thing I have to say about this mess.
I concur on Skrhodey, he needed killing in the worst way and I hated that Fury kept monologuing rather than just expediently offing him.
As a good bad guy, Skrhodey was one of the high points of this series. Fury's wife was another. I don't mind the grimness, since that's in-genre for a spy show. Bigger problems were the plot holes. Surely Fury could have enlisted the assistance of, like, any other Avenger. And the lack of concern for Real Rhodey was really off.
This series' biggest transgression, though, was predictability. You could see the ending coming from at least two episodes back. I still kind of liked the series, but it was no Loki.
Hated this. Hated the story. Hated the show. Loved Samuel L as always, but this was just crap.
This didn't bring any depth to the Marvel universe, or the characters, or how things work.
Just.. bleh.
This didn't bring any depth to the Marvel universe, or the characters, or how things work.
Just.. bleh.
Shouldn't all the people the Skrulls were holding in Russia be long-dead from radiation poisoning?
I was wondering this as well. Maybe they were kept somewhere with some radiation shielding. I didn't really get a good idea of the radiation amount (the meter did seem to be going crazy), but maybe Fury G'iah was told to ham it up for Gravik.
A video I watched noted that Rhodey was in a hospital gown and couldn't walk. I don't know if it will be confirmed, but that means the Skrulls probably had him since Civil War aftermath.
I dont know what to make of that. They made Gi'ah the most powerful person in the whole MCU if she does have all the powers of all the supers that have been on earth, what do they do with that? They either have to nerf her abilities in some way which would be lame or make her the next big bad except we already have one in Krang. Either way this just makes a mess of an already messy MCU.
I was actually reluctant to watch the last 2-3 episodes. I felt like it was losing direction and I suspected they were not going to end it well.
First, his rationale for not calling in avengers nor anyone else was straight up bs. It was nonsensical stupidity. A forced contrivance to tell this story. I would have been ok with that had they been able to provide a satisfactory ending.
Obligatory punch fest with the villain. Except... it's not obligatory. You don't actually have to do that. It was boring and poorly lit and shot. It looked terrible and there just wasn't any stakes in it.
WTF didn't he just shoot skrhodey? But ok eventually he did.
But overall, it was just a weak ending.
One of the big issues I had with this from the very beginning is that it's only been 30 years. It's only been 30 years to search for a planet for these people. It's not like humans have the technology to do it, so they are relying on Danvers... one person... to search galaxies. The skrulls are the ones that are technologically savvy. WTF weren't they doing it, why weren't they involved? As far as what they showed the audience, the skrulls were not involved. Gravik's whole thing was "you're taking too long" which was weak for that kind of anger and those kinds of actions. But then in the finale he says he killed some people that's what broke him. That can be traumatic. Probably a better reason than you're taking too long. But I just don't think he was a good villain in the long run.
Judge me, but, I thought the opening credits were interesting. They felt like an old style of sci-fi cover art for novels and stories. And I think it fit the nature of the skrulls. Ethically, I don't know how extensive or involved the use of AI was in the creation of those animations. So I don't know if I should have an ethical issue there.
First, his rationale for not calling in avengers nor anyone else was straight up bs. It was nonsensical stupidity. A forced contrivance to tell this story. I would have been ok with that had they been able to provide a satisfactory ending.
Obligatory punch fest with the villain. Except... it's not obligatory. You don't actually have to do that. It was boring and poorly lit and shot. It looked terrible and there just wasn't any stakes in it.
WTF didn't he just shoot skrhodey? But ok eventually he did.
But overall, it was just a weak ending.
One of the big issues I had with this from the very beginning is that it's only been 30 years. It's only been 30 years to search for a planet for these people. It's not like humans have the technology to do it, so they are relying on Danvers... one person... to search galaxies. The skrulls are the ones that are technologically savvy. WTF weren't they doing it, why weren't they involved? As far as what they showed the audience, the skrulls were not involved. Gravik's whole thing was "you're taking too long" which was weak for that kind of anger and those kinds of actions. But then in the finale he says he killed some people that's what broke him. That can be traumatic. Probably a better reason than you're taking too long. But I just don't think he was a good villain in the long run.
Judge me, but, I thought the opening credits were interesting. They felt like an old style of sci-fi cover art for novels and stories. And I think it fit the nature of the skrulls. Ethically, I don't know how extensive or involved the use of AI was in the creation of those animations. So I don't know if I should have an ethical issue there.
Given how everyone else who got freed seemed completely fine I took it more as he was just in there for a really long time than he got the most radiation. Some kind of radiation shielding is possible but the simplest explanation seems like it's just a plothole. They said in the episode where the Skrull compound was introduced that the entire point of picking the location was that humans couldn't survive for very long there but that Skrull were immune to the radiation.
Maybe they'll pivot to her given what's going on with Jon Majors...was this show already completely done with production when the news about Majors broke?
Between the Majors allegations, the writers strike, and recent executive shakeups, I get the sense that the MCU is on hold aside from The Marvels over the holidays.
The radiation not killing the captured humans is a plothole, but then again the comics have always treated "radiation" as magic. It's not as big of a plothole as Fury not calling the Avengers, even if he did "steal" all their DNA.
Started out fine; take the tropes of spy films etc. and translate to the MCU. But that ending. Nope.
Also, I don't think DNA works that way even following Comic Book Rules. Hulk, Carol, etc. got their powers from exposure to $PLOT_DEVICE, not to some genetic alteration or whatever. At least neither of them was shown building an Iron Man suit or slinging webs.
Also, I don't think DNA works that way even following Comic Book Rules. Hulk, Carol, etc. got their powers from exposure to $PLOT_DEVICE, not to some genetic alteration or whatever. At least neither of them was shown building an Iron Man suit or slinging webs.
I was...mostly fine with it until Gravik shifted his arm into Ebony Maw's and started using magic to throw rocks at Gi'ah. I can suspend my disbelief a whole bunch, but apparently that was too far
I am willing to accept that gamma rays, radioactive spider bites, and exposure to infinity stones can mutate DNA such that reproducing the DNA reproduces the powers. And I guess intelligence is somewhat genetic? But not knowledge. Unless we are in the Dune universe.
And be beyond traumatized by the knowledge that some doppelgänger has been schtupping their spouses, raising their children, and doing their jobs for god knows how long?
Not to mention that you must be worthy to wield the Power of Thor.
So I had a thought after reading an article about how Rhodey could have been there since CA:CW. What happened during the blip. If the skrulls need the humans to siphon their memory what happens if the human blips but the skrulls counterpart doesn't? Do they just slink off and pretend they got blipped as well since they won't have the humans memory any more
Otherwise I thought it was a fine show. Moved the overall story forward. The Marvels is supposed to continue it which makes since since Carol and Fury will be in that movie
Otherwise I thought it was a fine show. Moved the overall story forward. The Marvels is supposed to continue it which makes since since Carol and Fury will be in that movie
I'd heard somewhere that Katee Sackhoff said that the catering budget on the Mandalorian felt like the BSG budget. I'm sure she was partly/mostly joking, but I suspect a lot of Disney stuff is gold-plated and probably more expensive than it needs to be.
Could have just said,. "that's what Gravic wants, to sample the Avengers."
But then you couldn't have the stupid fight at the end where the brilliant strategy was to give him all the samples anyways and hope that your ally can beat him in a straight-up fight. Or at least have a throwaway that the Harvest samples are decaying and unstable or something.
