ISPs won’t have to follow new rule that protects your data from theft

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SpecTP

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even if the FCC pulls back these restrictions, the onus is still on ISP's to be compliant or else when the next administration changes, the policy will become enforced again and they'll have to scramble to adjust. From a marketing and consumer brand perspective, it's better to maintain that compliance.
 
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This is what America wanted.

If you didn't vote for Hillary, you voted for this.

Whether you voted for Trump, voted for a third party, or just didn't bother to vote. If you are an eligible voter that didn't vote for Hillary, you were in essence voting for this.

^ This.

Turns out? The liberals were right all along. About everything.
 
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azazel1024

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The Trump administration is hell-bent on removing any and all forms of accountability. We are witnessing the beginnings of a totalitarian regime.

Fuck.

Let's throw in the latest CPAC business of him wanting to pour money in to the military, denouncing news media as liars, evil and fake, remove social protections, erode education, nationalist pandering, WH baring several news organizations from a news "gaggle" or whatever the heck they called it instead of giving a daily briefing.

Yeah, no, situation normal, all F-ed up.

I'd wonder how Canada feels about American ex-pats, but I'd be worried the US would just invade Canada soon after I left (because a war on the door step is a great way to keep distracting people).
 
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This is what America wanted.

If you didn't vote for Hillary, you voted for this.

Whether you voted for Trump, voted for a third party, or just didn't bother to vote. If you are an eligible voter that didn't vote for Hillary, you were in essence voting for this.

^ This.

Turns out? The liberals were right all along. About everything.

While I agree with this to a point, I also agree with the fact that we have to get rid of this @#$%ing teamball bullshit.

Liberals are not "right about everything," nor are conservatives "wrong about everything."

And the solution to our problems will not be delivered from the business end of an insult.
 
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vlam

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Dear Ajit Pai,

While I have no intention of causing you any harm whatsoever, please die quickly and painfully, and preferably from natural causes. This move is atrocious; protecting sensitive information such as social security numbers is absolutely non-negotiable. By removing these consumer protections, you would be actively promoting a world where identity theft is that much easier and citizens are at that much greater risk.

History tells us that corporations will not look towards potential future costs when security breaches are concerned; they will get by with whatever barebones veil of security they can. These corporations are blind to the cost on consumers when their credit cards are stolen or personal information is available to anyone willing to pay for access. You, specifically, are responsible for any future data breaches among ISPs if you go forward with this plan.

Please, for the sake of the entire country, reverse course with this or die quickly.

Signed,
Vlam

P.s. again, I harbor no urge to cause any physical harm towards you. Citing a want for your death should be read as a hyperbolic argument used to instill the seriousness of your proposed transgression.
 
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"Chairman Pai believes that the best way to protect the online privacy of American consumers is through a comprehensive and uniform regulatory framework," the FCC said. "All actors in the online space should be subject to the same rules, and the federal government shouldn’t favor one set of companies over another."

Yes, because the U.S. federal government has domain over "All actors in the online space" - good luck enforcing your rules on non-American online actors....wait, what rules? Stupid me, if he was serious about making Google and Facebook have to follow the same rules as the ISP's do he would just change the rule to encompass them as well instead of revoking the rule all together.
 
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BulkRate

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Why. Why? Why! WHY! WHY!?!

Why does it may one whit of difference if my mobile carrier, or ISP or bank stripmines my private information to a 3rd party for money or otherwise fails to safeguard said data from breach based on what industry they're dabbling in at the moment?

This is akin to saying that driving up to my house and hurling a brick through my window doesn't constitute a crime so long as it's done from a motorcycle versus some other vehicle. Or if it's a rock that's thrown instead.
 
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This is what America wanted.

If you didn't vote for Hillary, you voted for this.

Whether you voted for Trump, voted for a third party, or just didn't bother to vote. If you are an eligible voter that didn't vote for Hillary, you were in essence voting for this.

^ This.

Turns out? The liberals were right all along. About everything.

While I agree with this to a point, I also agree with the fact that we have to get rid of this @#$%ing teamball bullshit.

Liberals are not "right about everything," nor are conservatives "wrong about everything."

And the solution to our problems will not be delivered from the business end of an insult.

Conservatives, by and large, are wrong about a lot. No way to deny that, if we're being honest with ourselves.
 
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Well this is how empires fall. Slowly but surely they rot from the top down, with greedy self serving assholes taking positions of power and proceeding to twist and corrupt the very rules that enable the prosperity and well being of the people. All to advance the greedy ambitions of a select few.

Ironic that these select few are the ones that have the means and more than enough wealth to easily bail and go live pretty much anywhere, abandoning the country and their lackeys as soon as they have served their purpose and their meddling starts to run the country into the ground.
 
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This is what America wanted.

If you didn't vote for Hillary, you voted for this.

Whether you voted for Trump, voted for a third party, or just didn't bother to vote. If you are an eligible voter that didn't vote for Hillary, you were in essence voting for this.

^ This.

Turns out? The liberals were right all along. About everything.

While I agree with this to a point, I also agree with the fact that we have to get rid of this @#$%ing teamball bullshit.

Liberals are not "right about everything," nor are conservatives "wrong about everything."

And the solution to our problems will not be delivered from the business end of an insult.

Conservatives, by and large, are wrong about a lot. No way to deny that, if we're being honest with ourselves.

Sure.

Good luck to us convincing them they are wrong by simply screaming YOU ARE WRONG. AND ALSO A RACIST.

I'm not going to have the least bit of sympathy for those that are indeed just evil, but that simply is not the case. Most of those that voted for Trump, wrong as they are, perhaps ignorant as they are, were duped.
 
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Generally, the argument against regulations are that they hurt consumers and businesses more than they help by enshrining consumer protections. In this case, I'm not sure a rational adult could argue that protecting privacy of consumers and making companies report data breaches is not worth the money required to implement it.

Ajit Pai wants to convince us that any regulation of the internet will hurt more than help. Well, how much business on the internet will be lost or reduced if personal information is not safe? We should be helping people to trust their digital security, not forcing them to give up their privacy for convenience and corporate profits.

Conservatives need to start thinking these kind of attacks on privacy through a bit more. If wire fraud didn't apply to mail and it wasn't a felony to open other people's letters, there would be a big drag on the economy. The internet is no different. ISPs are penny wise and pound foolish in this respect. The only reason they can get away with it is the monopolistic way they chunk out the American consumer market. If you don't like what your ISP is doing to protect your privacy, Pai wants to argue you can just go to another ISP. That is dead wrong and Republicans yet again show how little they care for actual consumer choice or protection.
 
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eldonyo

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even if the FCC pulls back these restrictions, the onus is still on ISP's to be compliant or else when the next administration changes, the policy will become enforced again and they'll have to scramble to adjust. From a marketing and consumer brand perspective, it's better to maintain that compliance.
True, but most execs don't think past the short-term increase in profits that will power their next bonus check.
 
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"Chairman Pai believes that the best way to protect the online privacy of American consumers is through a comprehensive and uniform regulatory framework," the FCC said. "All actors in the online space should be subject to the same rules, and the federal government shouldn’t favor one set of companies over another."

Yes, because the U.S. federal government has domain over "All actors in the online space" - good luck enforcing your rules on non-American online actors....wait, what rules? Stupid me, if he was serious about making Google and Facebook have to follow the same rules as the ISP's do he would just change the rule to encompass them as well instead of revoking the rule all together.
Good point. And, if he truly believes in the necessity of a uniform regulatory framework then why hasn't he presented his version of that rather than incrementally demolishing the old framework? I'm confident, though, that the new framework will come out right around the same time as the ACA replacement, the wall, and the infrastructure project.
 
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Question as to why your ISP would have your social security number in the first place? Asking as a Canadian who guards his Social Insurance number and the only people who get that are banks.
Applying for and filing things online. It's been an idea ISPs have tossed around of collecting all the traffic you send and storing it for data mining.
 
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Question as to why your ISP would have your social security number in the first place? Asking as a Canadian who guards his Social Insurance number and the only people who get that are banks.
Charter needs it for verification. Most use it to do credit reporting if you don't pay.
 
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eldonyo

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The party currently in power seems to very good at tearing things down and utter shit at building them up.
No, they're very good at building them up, but only if you already have more money than you and your heirs could spend in 10 generations. This type of nonsense is what sparked the French Revolution. Too bad no one in the current administration can even spell 'history', let alone have learned from it.
 
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