Is your Purosangue SUV not sharp enough? Ferrari has you covered.

Jackattak

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There's something about this that's extremely wrong.

What's it's purpose other than to soak up euros from people who have too much? Not a track car. sports car, grand tourer, off road beast or rally car. WTF is it for?
Kind of like Ferraris (or any luxury automobile) in general: If you have to ask...
 
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Looks and sounds beautiful, however, since I don't have the million or whatever insane price tag this will demand, I will never know (sadly).
It’s only half a million!

The real question is whether this is one of those Ferraris that you’re not allowed to buy until you’ve established a relationship with the dealer first.
 
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...carbon-fiber logo shields on the side, and black accents instead of chrome...

Last time I visited Paris there were a bunch of supercars on the Champs Elysees, all with Gulf states plates and most with stylish logos in what seemed to be Arabic, some of them part of the wing's ribs (the horizontal ribs went into forming a logo in the middle), all of them looking perfectly stock.
 
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It’s only half a million!

The real question is whether this is one of those Ferraris that you’re not allowed to buy until you’ve established a relationship with the dealer first.
This is the annoying part of Ferrari.

The MSRP means nothing when the only available models are twice the price on the second market. The problem is that just increases their cachet vs Lamborghini who will sell to anyone. The puro is easier to get though.
 
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"Four-seat Ferraris aren’t entirely unheard of"
4 seats didn't always mean 4 actual seats either. I once drove a 308 gt4 that "technically" had 4 seats. Barely fit 2 but can't complain when driving OPCs (Other Peoples Cars) I can't afford. I don't think the back "seat" actually fit a single bag of golf clubs
 
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Did you know that SUVs now account for 6 in 10 new vehicles sold in Europe? That’s even higher than in the US or China, where market share for lifted hatchbacks currently runs at about 40 percent.
I have been told that anything called an SUV becomes an SUV, "no true scottman" and all that. With words being meaningless, why is it interesting to compare how many "SUVs" are sold in different markets?

(I note that so many EVs are slightly tall that nearly all EVs are "SUVs" now.)
 
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I have been told that anything called an SUV becomes an SUV, "no true scottman" and all that. With words being meaningless, why is it interesting to compare how many "SUVs" are sold in different markets?

(I note that so many EVs are slightly tall that nearly all EVs are "SUVs" now.)
Because it’s a trend outside the norm. The US has been derided for ages by Europeans for the US love of SUVs.
 
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Because it’s a trend outside the norm. The US has been derided for ages by Europeans for the US love of SUVs.
Of course the US was and should be, and should continue to be ridiculed for the SUV thing. And pickups. Meanwhile, show me a random EV in Europe, its a coin flip if I can predict if its an "SUV" or not. The word has been abused until it has no meaning at all.
 
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Doing some reading on it, I'm amused that Ferrari apparently doesn't call the Purosangue an SUV. Since it has been established beyond all hope of criticism that anything called an SUV by its manufacturer is an SUV, that means this article and a lot of the internet is conducting a sort of reverse no-true-scottsman on it. :-(

This clearly does not fall into the 60% or whatever of Euro cars that were sold being SUVs.
 
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Never thought would see a Ferrari EV. I object to the article equating lifted hatchbacks to SUVs. My Lexus UX-250h is considered a crossover not a SUV as well as all the other crossovers out there. They are lower to the ground than SUVs. Then some sedans have lifted hatchbacks like my 1986 first year Acura Integra RS series. Was considered a sedan definitely not a SUV nor a crossover. Then a 1997 Subaru Outback wagon I had was not a SUV yet was a lifted hatchback. Is good to know lifted hatchbacks are quite popular. I wouldn’t have any other kind of car.
 
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There's something about this that's extremely wrong.

What's it's purpose other than to soak up euros from people who have too much? Not a track car. sports car, grand tourer, off road beast or rally car. WTF is it for?
The purpose is to make money. People buy these things. I don't get it either. If you want a Ferrari to show off, buy a real Ferrari. At least this one looks more like a normal car than the Urus or the Cayenne.
 
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This is the annoying part of Ferrari.

The MSRP means nothing when the only available models are twice the price on the second market. The problem is that just increases their cachet vs Lamborghini who will sell to anyone. The puro is easier to get though.

Jay Leno agrees.
"I like Ferraris, they're excellent cars," Jay Leno states on a "Cars and Culture" podcast circa 2022. The jokester continues, "I just never liked dealing with the dealers. I don't want to give a guy 25-grand in an envelope [for the privilege of buying one]." He likens the Ferrari purchase experience to "rich guys who go to a dominatrix" to get the crap kicked out of them.

Leno also levels accusations that customers are required to buy inferior models first as a prerequisite to buying the car they really want, and that the brand pressures owners into purchasing pricey certificates of authenticity to maintain a vehicle's provenance.

So it drives like it always should and they are charging extra for it? They should have refreshed it and offered to retrofit all the sold ones for free.

Jay agrees with you too.

Leno contrasts the cold shoulder from Ferrari with excellent customer service from McLaren, whose salesperson advised him against unnecessary costly options like carbon fiber brakes and later offered a significant horsepower upgrade for his MP4-12C, free of charge.

Read More: https://www.jalopnik.com/1837190/why-jay-leno-wont-buy-ferrari-explained/
 
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I don't think so.
People don't buy a Ferrari to drive a Ferrari.
They buy a Ferrari to own a Ferrari.
Sometimes they get driven.
I haven't seen anyone with over 4,000 miles on their Ferrari. Basically just track the car and that's it.
 
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There's a small difference between Europe's "the Rav4 is a massive SUV" and the US, though...
This. I live in the US and we are looking to downsize from a Highlander to a RAV4 now our kids have left home. Meanwhile, when I rent a car in the UK to visit family, my UK family complain about the "huge" Ford Puma I am given and I wonder at the Golf being used as the "big" car in a two-car family.
 
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Because it’s a trend outside the norm. The US has been derided for ages by Europeans for the US love of SUVs.
So the link in the article is paywalled, but I do wonder if the "SUV" band sits "above" mainly unlifted hatchbacks in Eurpoe, but "below" larger pickups in the USA?
 
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