The iPhone XR and XS, on the other hand, use an Apple A12 chip, the same one used by several still-supported iPads. But being introduced
No, they don't say "iPhone XYZ will have X years of full support, and Y of security only, etc.. and then it's done." . They do support devices for a long time, but they really only stop supporting devices some minimum amount of time (5 years + 1 for security patches) + whatever they feel like which is still miles better than most OEMs of phones. They are very clear what products are dropped when a new OS is announced, but not when a product is released.I believe they are quite clear.
Apple literally does not say what phones are getting security patches or have known vulnerabilities if they’re not on the list, and we know they usually issue patches for some of them, but you think that’s quite clear. How can you possibly?I believe they are quite clear.
If we assume the iOS release cycle cuts off an iPhone generation every subsequent year then the last "mini" iPhone should be able to run iOS 28.The last of the sane-sized phones, a.k.a. the 13 Mini, is still going strong!![]()
Yeah they’re not secretive about which they support, just about when in future they’ll stop. And I imagine that’s just about not making promises you can’t keep.
I would like them to commit more firmly to X years after launch at a minimum though. Bit weird to have to guess how long your device is likely to have
Reading this on my 13 Mini.The last of the sane-sized phones, a.k.a. the 13 Mini, is still going strong!![]()
so my beloved iphone xs is no longer supported.
I didn't stick with it this long just because I love the form factor, its more the dislike of every iteration of hardware since maybe the 12.
they've all gotten bigger and heavier, with that "I wobble on a flat surface without a sold separately case" double hump camera element
I just hope those rumors about the skinny new phone hopefully with ok battery life is real.
The camera lens itself and its frame, similar to those for the past few generations, may not be flush with the new ‘camera bar’, so there might be a bit of wobbling from that. Not as much as currently, granted, but…The good news is that if they go for a Pixel style camera bar that goes all the way across, they might not wobble any more.
My iPad mini 5 is hanging on by a thread. iPadOS 26 is probably the last one it will see.
Yea, 13 series’ EOL should hopefully be no earlier than Q3 2028.If we assume the iOS release cycle cuts off an iPhone generation every subsequent year then the last "mini" iPhone should be able to run iOS 28.
edit: hmm... just hit my 66th post? I suppose I shouldn't post any more until I've been a member 7 years.
Both of them will be happy. Seriously, how many people do you think will take a five year old phone, jailbreak it (anything goes wrong you are on your own) and run a completely different operating system, which was never supported by the hardware?So much e-waste created from obsolete phones and tablets. Apple should let people jailbreak old devices and run Linux or Android on them.
Especially since it’s much easier to just keep on running the current OS, which doesn’t stop working?
Well, it sure looks like the carrots Apple has been offering for the last seven years have not been working....Apple being scummy Apple once more - "The iPhone XR and XS, on the other hand, use an Apple A12 chip, the same one used by several still-supported iPads" absolutley no reason to not support XR still. If you want me to change my phone Apple give me carrots not sticks!
The iPhone XR and XS, on the other hand, use an Apple A12 chip, the same one used by several still-supported iPads.
The last of the sane-sized phones, a.k.a. the 13 Mini, is still going strong!![]()
If you really want to do everything with one hand, the move you need to internalize is swiping down at the bottom edge of the screen, which brings down the top half of the screen to the bottom half, allowing you to tap on the top elements without moving your thumb too far. Obviously this is useless for time-sensitive tasks like gaming, but for most productivity apps and browsing it's a passable alternative (I won't say great).Just last week I replaced two 12 minis and a 2nd gen SE, all with 16e(s). Over the last four years I've found I'm having a little harder time reading things on the mini's screen* and, for the most part, I like the 16e. But I have two big (pun intended) issues with it:
1) It feels huge in my pocket
2) I can't quite one-handed text anymore, it's a little too far to reach the opposite side of the screen from where I'm holding it
My wife has the same issues, with the added problem that, because women's pockets are usually smaller than men's pockets, she can't even fit her phone in some of hers now.
These are two huge usability fails to me. While the extra 7mm width doesn't sound like a lot, it's enough to make a noticeable difference.
But, the phones were free (as in "2 years of bill credits") and we were both at a point, 4 years on, where the battery life was really starting to suffer. "Free" was cheaper than battery replacements and less frustrating than playing the used iPhone lottery on ebay, so we decided to give it a try. Since it didn't require a trade-in, I may yet just spring for battery replacements and see how much longer they will go on.
I'm annoyed I didn't buy a few 13 minis when they were still available new and just... stick them in a drawer until the day when I needed them. Ultimately, I think my favorite thing about the 16e is, being a brand new device with basically top-end internals, there's a pretty good chance of these lasting long enough for the cycle to repeat and I can replace them when Apple decides to do an iPhone 21 mini and call it vintage-sized or whatever.
*which I didn't do frequently, specifically because it's a mini, but I did just often enough that I noticed and asked my ophthalmologist about it. She said I'm just getting old, which was both funny and not. Sigh.
If you really want to do everything with one hand, the move you need to internalize is swiping down at the bottom edge of the screen, which brings down the top half of the screen to the bottom half, allowing you to tap on the top elements without moving your thumb too far. Obviously this is useless for time-sensitive tasks like gaming, but for most productivity apps and browsing it's a passable alternative (I won't say great).
Years ago I had a ~2.5yo Android that was blocked from using our dual-factor at work as it hadn't had security updates in over a year. I didn't want to buy a new phone yet, especially if the reason was work. They offered to get me a YubiKey.So my "work" phone (my old iPhone 12 Pro that I've put a prepaid eSIM in) is still supported. If I'm lucky, they'll ban the use of personal devices for work before it drops out of support. (There's a whole security thing going on at work, which means maybe they'll have to issue me a work phone again. At least until someone decides it costs too much again, and they stop doing it.)
Me too, though it's a shame that Ars has declared war on our screen size:Reading this on my 13 Mini.![]()
Enable the One-Handed Keyboard in Settings > General > Keyboard This feature then becomes an option under the Globe icon selections.That is kind of useful, but I was talking about reaching across it for typing - like if I'm holding it in my right hand I can't quite reach the left edge of the keyboard without awkwardly stretching my hand and then losing my grip on the phone. I think one-handed texting is just not going to be a thing anymore.