iOS 18.3 disables controversial, AI-generated news app notifications

Legatum_of_Kain

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As far as I understand you can still turn it off, but only together with Siri.
Thanks.

I guess that if it needs to be turned off with Siri, that's it, no Siri for me.


This is a major bummer for those that need Siri for accessibility reasons, and I really don't understand how this is cheaper and better than pre-LLM, or no-LLM purpose-built Siri.
 
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anachronon

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Does this still work?

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ranphi

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Ugh this is even worse than 18.2 where it was opt-in. I guess I just won't update my phone? But then I miss security updates because Apple insists on rolling them into feature updates for some stupid reason.

I really wish there was an alternative mobile phone that wasn't like... infested with "AI".
I’ve been wanting this for a very long time now. Having only 2 readily available, mainstream options (iOS and Android) is awful IMO. I don’t like either company when it comes to Apple and Google, though I admit I do hate Google more with their being an ad company and all the data they harvest and sell.

That said, if you’re willing and have the tech knowledge necessary, you can look into the various de-Googled phone operating systems that are out there. I just recently started testing a phone with GrapheneOS on it. It even allows you to either not install Google Play Services, or install a sandboxed version.

Haven’t used it enough yet to decide if I’ll be jumping ship from my iPhone, but I’m hoping that will end up being the case. I really don’t want to support either Google or Apple anymore.
 
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interars

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How many gigabytes do I have to download in order to enable something I'll immediately disable, and to remove a sub-feature that I'd've disabled anyway? I mean, sure, the actually-important security patches probably would've been a couple of gigabytes anyway, due to the bizarro way that Apple packages updates, but how many more gigabytes is all the AI fluff adding?
For me the iOS update was ~900+ MB. So I guess to answer your first question... approximately 1.
 
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LordInternet

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And look at that sweet 3gb ram hit:

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/iPadPro/comments/1flgh5v/8_gb_of_ram_is_atrocious_with_apple_intelligence/


chat.openai.com or gemini.google.com does what I need not this locally hosted trash.

Seems like more of an excuse to make us upgrade and stop providing security updates/os support to older SKUs.

Sorry if you have a 8gb ram Macbook with good battery life and it was working perfectly fine for you.

But heres the thing for me it's STILL a problem at 24 GB ram for my bioinformatic and video editing workflows. You know those sort of jobs that Apple likes to sell laptops for doing.

Hopefully when I disable this it actually reduces the ram overhead. Not keep something going.
 
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interars

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Why did anyone ever think we needed AI generated headlines anyway? The headlines are already there on the same site that they’ve scraped the news from in the first place.
They didn't specifically set out to summarise headlines, it's just generic summarising of app notifications... some of which end up being notifications from news apps. We can definitely argue that this issue should have been thought about by Apple beforehand (or at least detected in beta), but I'm not sure it's right to frame it as them having AI headlines as a goal.
 
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How many gigabytes do I have to download in order to enable something I'll immediately disable, and to remove a sub-feature that I'd've disabled anyway? I mean, sure, the actually-important security patches probably would've been a couple of gigabytes anyway, due to the bizarro way that Apple packages updates, but how many more gigabytes is all the AI fluff adding?
7-8 GB right now. That figure will go up as Apple adds more AI features. 64 GB of storage capacity isn’t going to work for long. And, depending on what else you have on your device, maybe 128 GB won’t be enough either. See the beauty in all of this for Apple? You’ll have to purchase more expensive devices with added storage… just so you can turn off a useless AI feature that you never wanted in the first place while it continues to eat more space on your SSD with each new update.
 
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Ugh this is even worse than 18.2 where it was opt-in. I guess I just won't update my phone? But then I miss security updates because Apple insists on rolling them into feature updates for some stupid reason.

I really wish there was an alternative mobile phone that wasn't like... infested with "AI".
I'm considering going back to a previous Apple phone that "wont run" AI. Knowing my luck they will figure out how to get it working on that phone in the next update.
 
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Rosyna

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Just replacing the (100% warranted) sarcasm from the previous page with a level of subtlety more befitting this abomination of an update...

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And in case the good folks at Apple still haven't gotten the message: fuck opt-out, and fuck the lot of you for foisting shit like this on your unsuspecting users.
I don’t understand this. The majority of Apple Intelligence features are entirely on-device and have no privacy implications.

For the extremely few that call out to a server, Private Cloud Compute is used, and not even Apple has access to the data there (which can be verified as Apple provides the binaries).

And it’s definitely not like Samsung or the ilk, you won’t suddenly be charged for Apple Intelligence features separately.
 
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StrangeOnion

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Ugh this is even worse than 18.2 where it was opt-in. I guess I just won't update my phone? But then I miss security updates because Apple insists on rolling them into feature updates for some stupid reason.

I really wish there was an alternative mobile phone that wasn't like... infested with "AI".
I don't have an iPhone 15 Pro / 16 series, but I believe you can turn it off with a single toggle.
 
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jdale

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I’ve been wanting this for a very long time now. Having only 2 readily available, mainstream options (iOS and Android) is awful IMO. I don’t like either company when it comes to Apple and Google, though I admit I do hate Google more with their being an ad company and all the data they harvest and sell.

That said, if you’re willing and have the tech knowledge necessary, you can look into the various de-Googled phone operating systems that are out there. I just recently started testing a phone with GrapheneOS on it. It even allows you to either not install Google Play Services, or install a sandboxed version.

Haven’t used it enough yet to decide if I’ll be jumping ship from my iPhone, but I’m hoping that will end up being the case. I really don’t want to support either Google or Apple anymore.
I kind of burned out after years of WebOS followed by Windows Phone. But good luck.
 
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Really disappointed that Apple is forcing this given how, up until now, they had made a conscious effort that data and privacy consuming services were opt in during device setup, You had to opt to configure siri, to let apple use recordings, to let apps to track etc etc, and this all seems to fly in the face of that privacy and data security slant
Again for the Apple fanboys. Apple never CARED about privacy. It was just their marketing strategy... that can and did change as soon as it was convenient ad/or required to keep the investors happy.
 
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SimonW

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I find the summaries sometimes useful and often hilarious. So much so that they cheer me up. So that's a win.
Because this partly offsets the fury I feel when I say "Hey Siri play BBC news" and it says "sure here are some articles about BBC news I found on the web" or when it says "would you like me to use ChatGPT for that". I get suckered in, have to press "use CHATGPT" because it doesn't understand the words and then it says to me "hmm ChatGPT isn't available right now".
Aaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhh
 
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Fred Duck

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I would guess future updates do not override your preference. Generally they don’t override your settings with each minor update. This isn’t Windows.
Unless you're the hit wireless technology Bluetooth®, in which case, you will always magically be enabled after each minor update.

It wasn't enough that Apple removed headphone jacks from all iOS & iPadOS devices (but not Macs because wired headphones are still very common and useful) to "encourage" AirPods sales but for the handful of people who actively choose to disable BT, Apple toggle it back on, likely in an effort to enhance the Find My network.
 
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Rosyna

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I don't understand why I'd want a notification summary. Either a notification is important enough that I want to see it individually, or it shouldn't have been sent.
The summary is for when you get an overly long notification or get multiple notifications from the same app. It won’t show a summary for single short (typical) notifications.
 
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