A lack of medical training isn't stopping a man from charging $20,000 for the treatment.
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Inventor claims bleach injections will destroy cancer tumors
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It probably does kill cancer. It's not going to do the rest of your body any good either.
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They have found the perfect White House physician! Now give him a drop light to see inside the patient. Who needs all that expensive MRI nonsense?
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Trump is a big fan of injecting bleach to cure things so I expect this to sail through approvals.
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I mean, technically... it would cure cancer the way a guillotine would cure migraines.
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Sheeeeit, $20k? I'll inject you with bleach for a mere $10k!
Capitalism baby, don't hate the player hate the game.
Capitalism baby, don't hate the player hate the game.
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ColdWetDog
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I listened to this story recently about people who think they're smarter than the scientific body (occasionally true, 99.9999% crackpot).
Act Three: Sucker Mc-squared:
"When I told Bob about the index, he had already seen it on the internet, had taken the test, and had concluded that, technically, he's a crackpot. But that never even gave him pause."
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/293/transcript
Act Three: Sucker Mc-squared:
"When I told Bob about the index, he had already seen it on the internet, had taken the test, and had concluded that, technically, he's a crackpot. But that never even gave him pause."
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/293/transcript
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Hey, I use ethanol the same way, usually in a solution of about 5-11% by volume, but sometimes more concentrated doses are needed to address transient mental health issues.
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Now we know what the exact opposite of an anti-vaxxer is. An anti-vaxxer refuses you treatment even if it kills you. He treats you even if it kills you.
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Racing to the bottom. Sign a liability waiver and I'll do it for $100, with group discounts.
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It's a losing game. There are no doubt people out there who will pay the patient for the thrill of injecting them with bleach.
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Wow. OP's point flew so hard past your head that it must've left skidmarks.
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[...] a “violent explosion” occurred when he made a mistake.
“The blast blacked out my vision,” Liu wrote. “Dense clouds of chlorine dioxide burst into my face, filling my eyes, nose, and mouth. I stumbled back into the apartment, rushing to the bathroom to wash out the gas from my eyes and respiratory tract. My lungs were burning. Later, I would find 4–5 cuts on my upper thigh—shards of glass had pierced through my pants.”
“The blast blacked out my vision,” Liu wrote. “Dense clouds of chlorine dioxide burst into my face, filling my eyes, nose, and mouth. I stumbled back into the apartment, rushing to the bathroom to wash out the gas from my eyes and respiratory tract. My lungs were burning. Later, I would find 4–5 cuts on my upper thigh—shards of glass had pierced through my pants.”
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I could be sooo rich from exploiting people if I just lacked those darn ethics.
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Nomination of suppressed maverick genius researcher for important public health position in the Trump Administration incoming in 5, 4, 3...
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So he mixed an acid and a base and it blew up. Who could have possibly known such a thing was possible??
I'm guessing it was 100% citric acid given that's how it's typically sold. Dude just bought citric acid powder on Amazon (AliExpress?) and mixed it with bleach
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For that matter, I use Chlorine Dioxide the same way. At about 0.1PPM in my drinking water. Altough, to be fair, I generally let my drinking water sit for a while before drinking it, which means most of that trace chlorine will have off-gassed, so the PPM is actually lower.
Maybe this guy is confused between cancerous cells in the body and bacteria in the water supply?
If we're following the "alternative treatments" feedback loop, should the next treatment after this be Ivermectin injected directly into cancerous tissue?
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Has he tried spiking the bleach with ivermectin? Asking for a moron crackpot podcaster White House aide...
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When I was young and foolish, I did exactly this (minus the buying online) to make some explosions. Of course, I did it outside, and had a firewall between me and the reaction as it was taking place. Violent, yes... but not very destructive. I wasn't very impressed and never did it again.
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There was a famous rather young local politician here who had terminal cancer. It was sad to watch. She was in complete denial. "I am going to live! I am going to defeat this!" It was peculiar as she was a rather reasonable politician before all that. (This was before Trump was even in the picture, politicians could still do their job if they were reasonable.)
She became desperate. Went on some very dubious cancer treatment in India. A guy did some magic gestures at someone's stomach and a foul piece of organ appeared in his hand. He then threw it away. It was very pricey, but she was hopeful! (Now and then she came on the news with an update of the story.)
No way of talking her out of it. She would try anything that offered a chance. She died of course.
I learned from that story that even the most rational minds can lose it completely when confronted with death. I learned from that story that there are vultures eager to pray without shame on that weakness.
Maybe in a few years, one of us will go to China to have cancer injected with chlorine dioxide. Everyone told us it was nonsense, but fear locked up the rational part of your brain in jail. This is your last hope. You must try everything. Family simply does not understand. "I Can't die."
Meanwhile, a Chinese guy gets more bleach from the DIY store in his rolls royce.
Let's hope they catch cancer early on.
She became desperate. Went on some very dubious cancer treatment in India. A guy did some magic gestures at someone's stomach and a foul piece of organ appeared in his hand. He then threw it away. It was very pricey, but she was hopeful! (Now and then she came on the news with an update of the story.)
No way of talking her out of it. She would try anything that offered a chance. She died of course.
I learned from that story that even the most rational minds can lose it completely when confronted with death. I learned from that story that there are vultures eager to pray without shame on that weakness.
Maybe in a few years, one of us will go to China to have cancer injected with chlorine dioxide. Everyone told us it was nonsense, but fear locked up the rational part of your brain in jail. This is your last hope. You must try everything. Family simply does not understand. "I Can't die."
Meanwhile, a Chinese guy gets more bleach from the DIY store in his rolls royce.
Let's hope they catch cancer early on.
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“...I would welcome the fact that he's not a doctor, that he's not an MD, because he's not clouded, jaded, and biased with all kinds of misguidance that would push them [the victims patients] the wrong way,” Hagerman says...
You sure we're not talking about Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, here?
You sure we're not talking about Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, here?
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My dad did similar things when he was dying of cancer. Nothing that extravagant, but close. This is one of the many reasons for a science based FDA. People are very vulnerable when they are dying.
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ColdWetDog
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Yes, all the things they tell you NOT to do in Chem 101 lab, home economics, YouTube and probably TicTok (not too sure about the latter). Pure, unadulterated genius. He should really do more lab work. It would clearly help mankind.
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He hadn't made a mistake. He intentionally made an actual explosive. ClO2 can detonate as an explosive simply if concentrated enough and warm enough, shocked or even hit by light enough. IIRC it's not even allowed to be transported at any concentrations in many jurisdictions and the "ClO2" tabs for outdoor water treatment are a specially formulated mix of precursor chemicals to generate it in situ in a very low concentration.
Given China's also extreme sensitivity to internal security matters, if he doesn't off himself the next time he tries it in Beijing again, I suspect he won't be ever heard off again after getting a visit from certain uniformed people.
Germany's GSG 9 des Bundespolizei might also take an interest...
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Derp Derpus
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I've been battling stage IV prostate cancer for nearly 8 years and my spouse was diagnosed with ovarian cancer two weeks ago. No way will we ever even consider getting bleach injections.
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Hmmm, no. No, that's not right at all.
Pathological miscreant claims bleach injections will destroy cancer tumors
There we go! You're welcome, WIRED.
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I'll bet this would be even more effective at destroying tumors if mixed with concentrated sulfuric acid prior to injection. Or nitric.
It would probably do a good job of removing brain worm detritus too. Maybe there's somebody out there who could volunteer?
It would probably do a good job of removing brain worm detritus too. Maybe there's somebody out there who could volunteer?
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Eh, probably not. Chlorine dioxide isn't really that toxic compared to something like regular bleach. Injected into a tumor it would kill some of the cancer cells but probably not enough to make a difference. In the mean time, injecting the tumor comes with the risk of seeding the cancer cells along the needle tract, potentially allowing it to metastasize earlier than it might under normal conditions.
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