Instagram user fights DHS for the right to post ICE sightings anonymously

DHS is weirdly using import/export rules to expand its authority to identify online critics.

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[Steve-D]

Why is it still called ICE and not SA as would be more appropriate?

because It Can't Happen Here.

I remember as a child being made to watch the TV movie remake "Shadow on the Land."
Ironically my parents would eventually both devolve into Trumpers.

 

[Thresher]

* International border includes any port of entry, including any airport with international flights.

**Offer void in Blue states.

 

[Thresher]

Mainly because the US military lacks the authority to arrest people on US soil. What you want is for the local sheriff to arrest the fuckers and maybe for the governor to call out the National Guard to back up the sheriff.


They tend to be old-style Republican and are exceedingly reasonable (witness the group of generals currently trying to explain that invading Greenland is against international law and an attack on an ally and against the NATO treaty).

But the enlisted men and women seem to be more aligned with MAGA. Let's hope discipline remains and the generals do not take the illegal orders and the rank and file go along with it.

 

[msawzall]

My username is msawzall across all platforms. I live in upstate NY. I have a government job. Look me up. And FUCK ICE! Come at me.

 

[chaos215bar2]

My username is msawzall across all platforms. I live in upstate NY. I have a government job. Look me up. And FUCK ICE! Come at me.

Similar sentiments here. I dare ICE to finally grow the cojones to come play in my backyard. It's probably the only major, deep blue metropolitan area they haven't hit yet, and boy would it be a wakeup call to some people who sorely need one.

 

[Thresher]

For context, under Trump enforcement of civil rights abuse claims has plummeted, the Department of Education is collapsing, there is a concerted push to discriminate against Trans people, fascist secret police are... well, operating openly and murdering people they don't kidnap, disappear, and rape... but it's super important for the administration to get a list of Jewish faculty to "protect them" from "antisemitism."

If history has taught us anything, Jews do their best to stay off lists. Nothing good comes from it.

 

[crepuscularbrolly]

If history has taught us anything, Jews do their best to stay off lists. Nothing good comes from it.

Funny you should mention

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/upenn-trump-jews-list

The US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) is demanding the [University of Pennsylvania] turn over names and personal information about Jewish members of the Penn community as part of the administration’s stated goal to combat antisemitism on campuses.

 

[Komarov]

Is that an ableist statement? /s

You're right, I should have pointed out that other persons may or may not exercise their wrists in other ways, according to taste and circumstance. Some curls in a fitness centre might do the trick, or dealing with a particularly finicky user interface while doomscrolling, or even writing lame comments on a membrane keyboard. De gustibus non disputandum est.

 

[Komarov]

But there is this:

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https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/29118

Pity that commenter couldn't be bothered to capitalise the nouns in the German version.

Finicky, always finicky.

 

[Komarov]

Yep. That name bothered me right from day one. It reeks of 1938 Germany.

1933 (now going on '34). You ain't seen nothin' yet.

 

[MarlonBrawndo]

Maybe ICE agents should not “assault, kidnap, or murder” their fellow American people and we wouldn't have this problem

Exactly. If you don't want people posting your agency's crimes on the internet, don't let your agents commit crimes!

 

[Tamerlin]

I am still deeply confused about how ICE gets to go into communities wearing masks and hiding their badges in the first place? You should have to prove your authority before yoinking someone into a barely marked vehicle and racing away with them.

Legally they can't, but because the democrats are so stupid, cowardly, and idiotic, they abdicated the rule of law to protect the guilty because they were more afraid of the optics of enforcing laws than of the consequences of aiding and abetting a fascist coup.

So now that they helped the coup plotters execute their coup, they're in hiding having done what their billionaire bribers paid them to do, and sit watching from the background until it's time to go begging for votes and donations again.

 

[Tamerlin]

I had this dream/idea of an ICE raid happening in a city close to a large military base (think Delta Force), and the local commander decides that "enough is enough", goes rogue (defends the Constitution) and arrests the whole ICE horde in 30 seconds.

I know it will never happen, but it would be beautiful to watch these cowards crying mommy. One can dream.

(I also don't know where the average US serviceperson sits in terms of political affiliation. I am naively assuming most of them are reasonable.)

The current members of the US military are doing their level best to convince the nation to put an end to its military, because they're engaging in fascism instead of obeying laws.

 

[Tamerlin]

Random question: If regular Joe's have no right to privacy in a public space, why do masked, armed thugboots?

Legally they have no such right.

But laws don't matter when they are not enforced.

 

[Tamerlin]

Why is “weirdly” the adjective here? When will journalists stop being limp-wristed cowards and start calling fascism by its name?

Also, while I’m on a rant: stop using “falsehoods” and just say “lies.”

When they're held accountable for their complicity with the fascist overthrow of the nation, and ongoing efforts to facilitate fascists overthrowing other governments around the world.

 

[Tamerlin]

Nah. It's pretty clear that the only way American voters learn is from experiencing things themselves or through close friends and family.

What's pretty clear is that you're giving american voters too much credit.

 

[llama-lime]

Legally they can't, but because the democrats are so stupid, cowardly, and idiotic, they abdicated the rule of law to protect the guilty because they were more afraid of the optics of enforcing laws than of the consequences of aiding and abetting a fascist coup.

So now that they helped the coup plotters execute their coup, they're in hiding having done what their billionaire bribers paid them to do, and sit watching from the background until it's time to go begging for votes and donations again.

When I read stuff like this, I notice a dichotomy in how the two parties are treated. Namely:

Democrats: have choices, responsible for them, and even responsible for not stopping their opponents

Republicans: animalistic, just do stuff, can not be held accountable for what they do, blameless for any wrong doing because they should have been held accountable by others

 

[sopwath]

At this point, these cuck gestapo wannabees will treat anything as a threat:

• Cars: "I feared for my life"
• Phones: "I feared for my life"
• pants: "I feared for my life"

Their goal is to be allowed to shoot first... they wont even get to the "ask questions later" part.

 

[huskcummerbund]

At this point, these cuck gestapo wannabees will treat anything as a threat:

• Cars: "I feared for my life"
• Phones: "I feared for my life"
• pants: "I feared for my life"

Their goal is to be allowed to shoot first... they wont even get to the "ask questions later" part.

First thing that popped into me head:

 

[Komarov]

At this point, these cuck gestapo wannabees will treat anything as a threat:

• Cars: "I feared for my life"
• Phones: "I feared for my life"
• pants: "I feared for my life"

Their goal is to be allowed to shoot first... they wont even get to the "ask questions later" part.

The irony here is that any real law enforcement officer will tell you that "I feared for my life" is not sufficient justification for drawing a firearm, let alone firing it, and absofuckinlutely not firing first. In any remotely sane jurisdiction, that goon would now be detained, suspended pending discharge and looking at 10 years for murder and a bunch of other charges.

FFS even soldiers get rules of engagement stuffed into them until they're oozing out of their ears, and they're specifically not trained for law enforcement or dealing with civilians.

Sturmabteilung. Literally. Or ВЧК, it's hard to tell the difference from all the way over here.

 

[chaos215bar2]

I don’t get the downvotes. The Democrats with their bad attitude towards enforcing common laws made a lot of people tired of petty crime and made them vote for the bad guys. At the same time, for all the democratic talk of helping the powerless who commit these crimes out of necessity, no material improvement was delivered to them, and the crimes keep happening, so no prevention and no enforcement takes place and less sophisticated voters get tired of calling cops for nothing and vote red.

These policies weren't in place anywhere that voted for the people currently in power.

Certainly Democrats could have done better, but this is a poor excuse. What you're saying is, at best, that Republicans fell for what should have been obvious political propaganda targeted at blue cities.

I would argue it isn't even that, though. Anyone who's cheering on what's been happening since Jan. 20 last year voted for vengeance against people who's ideology doesn't align with their own, plain and simple. Trigger happy ICE agents murdering innocent citizens and getting their jollies out of beating up immigrants just going about their day didn't appear out of nowhere.

 

[Zerza]

While Republicans cheer the abolishment of the 1st amendment, the irony is a future president will use this precedent to abolish the 2nd amendment. And thanks to ICE they will have the police force to do it ..

 

[huskcummerbund]

I don’t get the downvotes. The Democrats with their bad attitude towards enforcing common laws made a lot of people tired of petty crime and made them vote for the bad guys. At the same time, for all the democratic talk of helping the powerless who commit these crimes out of necessity, no material improvement was delivered to them, and the crimes keep happening, so no prevention and no enforcement takes place and less sophisticated voters get tired of calling cops for nothing and vote red.

The Democrats should not weasel out of their responsibility, being compassionate and human should make you look for solutions, not avoiding enforcement because it impacts poor people disproportionately. If the laws are wrong, change them or challenge them in court, but skirting enforcement only feeds into the narrative of lawlessness and only hurts working people who cannot hire private security or move to fancy compounds or nice neighborhoods and have to deal with conflict and crime in the course of their daily affairs. Those are the voters who cannot take it anymore and vote red, that’s why you see GOP winning among Blacks and Hispanics, they suffered the consequences of lax enforcement everyday and got fed up.

While the Democrats have a long list of their own problems, it's not a fair argument that they did nothing when Republicans and MAGA have done everything in their power to prevent Democrats from doing anything that might actually help people. It's the political and societal equivalent of,

 

[RTGonzo]

"You can depend upon the Americans to do the right thing. But only after they have exhausted every other possibility." -unknown

Generally attributed to Winston Churchill.

 

[balthazarr]

The irony here is that any real law enforcement officer will tell you that "I feared for my life" is not sufficient justification for drawing a firearm, let alone firing it, and absofuckinlutely not firing first. In any remotely sane jurisdiction, that goon would now be detained, suspended pending discharge and looking at 10 years for murder and a bunch of other charges.

FFS even soldiers get rules of engagement stuffed into them until they're oozing out of their ears, and they're specifically not trained for law enforcement or dealing with civilians.

Sturmabteilung. Literally. Or ВЧК, it's hard to tell the difference from all the way over here.

It really is sickening to hear Trump and all of his sycophants go on about how "the lunatic left" and "domestic terrorists" and whatever other boogey man of the day they've come up with are threatening brave law enforcement officers who are just doing their job or some other such hypocritical bullshit, when on day one - or as nearabouts as matters - Trump pardoned pretty much the entire Jan 6 crowd, including, ya know, actual violence against law enforcement.

From: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-democrats-trump-administration-jan-6-rioters-ice/

Harry Dunn, a former U.S. Capitol Police officer who helped repel the rioting mob at the Capitol, told CBS News: "Given the pardons and appointments of people into this administration, lawlessness is not frowned upon but rewarded."

 

[huskcummerbund]

Generally attributed to Winston Churchill.

As far as I can tell, incorrectly. Or, at the very least, inconclusively. There's no record of him ever saying that, as far as I can tell, only people saying he said that without evidence, starting in the 70's. So, I'll stick with "-unknown"

 

[bregalad]

I had this dream/idea of an ICE raid happening in a city close to a large military base (think Delta Force), and the local commander decides that "enough is enough", goes rogue (defends the Constitution) and arrests the whole ICE horde in 30 seconds.

I know it will never happen, but it would be beautiful to watch these cowards crying mommy. One can dream.

(I also don't know where the average US serviceperson sits in terms of political affiliation. I am naively assuming most of them are reasonable.)

The vast majority of US service people, according to internal polls, signed up in order to get a college education. Others do it for patriotic reasons or because their parents/grandparents/etc. were in the military and thus it was expected of them.
So you've got a huge group trying to escape low income, low education regions where evangelical religion and conservative ideals tend to prevail and another large group who live and breathe conservative ideals.
I certainly don't expect many soldiers to be nice people trying to keep the peace. They're more likely to be born and raised brown shirts ready to stomp on the head of anyone who dares question their legal or moral authority.
So I'd say most of them are secretly cheering on the ICE terrorists and would side with them in any fight.

 

[Komarov]

Putin and Xi are laugning their asses off at America's suicide and destruction of anything resembling a western alliance. With Trump's moronic precedent in Venezuela, Taiwan is already a goner.

Our best hope is that China and Russia get bogged down in a fight over Mongolia (it's the birthplace of the Yuan dynasty!—no, they use a Cyrillic script these days!), but that would be the last, not the first stage.

Sorry, I may have got carried away a bit. Suffice it to say that most of recorded history has been shit for normal people and I don't relish all that coming back.

Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. Understatement of the friggin' century.

 

[HoweverI]

Does anyone know what ICE's actual authority is? I was under the impression they could only take action regarding federal immigration law, but here they are executing crowd control, warrantless searches and seizures, implementing traffic stops and checkpoints and assaulting protesters with chemical weapons.

Shouldn't the police at least be envious that these ICE upstarts are showing them up in terms of trampling of constitutional rights, unnecessary violence and plain murder?

 

[Tamerlin]

When I read stuff like this, I notice a dichotomy in how the two parties are treated. Namely:

Democrats: have choices, responsible for them, and even responsible for not stopping their opponents

Republicans: animalistic, just do stuff, can not be held accountable for what they do, blameless for any wrong doing because they should have been held accountable by others

No, republicans are not blameless. Not being held accountable just keeps emboldening them, because refusing to hold them accountable is just like endorsing their criminal behavior. That does not make republicans blameless, it makes democrats guilty as accessories to their crimes.

It's an incredibly stupid interpretation of "dems refuse to hold repugs accountable for anything" because the reality is that even when the dems have the majorities, the repugs get what they want, and the idiot dems refuse to even smack them with the actual justice... because they are ALSO guilty.

 

[Komarov]

As far as I can tell, incorrectly. Or, at the very least, inconclusively. There's no record of him ever saying that, as far as I can tell, only people saying he said that without evidence, starting in the 70's. So, I'll stick with "-unknown"

Whether or not it was Churchill, it's certainly something he would say after his fifth whisky (around half past eleven ante meridiem). The only thing that casts a doubt on that attribution is the missing dangling participle.

 

[AusPeter]

The irony here is that any real law enforcement officer will tell you that "I feared for my life" is not sufficient justification for drawing a firearm, let alone firing it, and absofuckinlutely not firing first. In any remotely sane jurisdiction, that goon would now be detained, suspended pending discharge and looking at 10 years for murder and a bunch of other charges.

FFS even soldiers get rules of engagement stuffed into them until they're oozing out of their ears, and they're specifically not trained for law enforcement or dealing with civilians.

Sturmabteilung. Literally. Or ВЧК, it's hard to tell the difference from all the way over here.

There was a story many years ago about an ex-soldier, now LEO, who defused a situation when confronted with a guy with a gun instead of shooting him when the scofflaw didn't initially obey LEO commands. The ex-soldier was a combat vet who knew how to evaluate literal life and death situations. As a result, the ex-soldier got a dressing down.

 

[Tamerlin]

While the Democrats have a long list of their own problems, it's not a fair argument that they did nothing when Republicans and MAGA have done everything in their power to prevent Democrats from doing anything that might actually help people. It's the political and societal equivalent of,

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That's bullshit. It's an entirely fair argument, because it's true; when the dems have the majorities they focus on giving the republicans what they want, and when they have the minorities they focus on giving the repugnants what they want.

The whine that if they prosecute republicans the republicans will retaliate with prosecution, all the while ignoring the fact that the repugnants do next to nothing OTHER than prosecute the dems, even going so far as to openly collude with foreign spies to INVENT evidence, because they never find any... yet the imbecile dems refuse to put an end to that by using the law against the repugnants, because they're just using the repugnants to hide their corruption from the american people.

 

[Derecho Imminent]

 

[Bernardo Verda]

It really is sickening to hear Trump and all of his sycophants go on about how "the lunatic left" and "domestic terrorists" and whatever other boogey man of the day they've come up with are threatening brave law enforcement officers who are just doing their job or some other such hypocritical bullshit, when on day one - or as nearabouts as matters - Trump pardoned pretty much the entire Jan 6 crowd, including, ya know, actual violence against law enforcement.

From: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-democrats-trump-administration-jan-6-rioters-ice/

So... in round numbers, only one person, Pamela Hemphill, just the one person out of over 1,500 participants in the Jan 6th assault had both enough brains, principle, and moral courage to reject Trump's mass pardon for the anti-democratic assault on Capitol Hill that Trump instigated. (That's less than a 1/10th of one percent.)

Convicted US Capitol rioter turns down Trump pardon​

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvged988377o

Why a Jan. 6 defendant rejected Trump's pardon​

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/23/nx-s...-6-rioter-doesnt-want-president-trumps-pardon

Former Trump supporter Pamela Hemphill refuses and returns her Jan. 6 pardon​

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pamela-hemphill-trump-supporter-refuses-jan-6-pardon/



Meanwhile, at least thirty pardonees have been charged and/or convicted for new serious crimes since the Jan 6th violence, or even since the insurrectionist pardon.

According to a recent House Judiciary Committee report, these charges include sexual assault, child sexual assault, production and possession of child pornography, rape, conspiracy to commit murder of FBI agents, kidnapping, aggravated robbery, reckless homicide, driving under the influence causing death, illegal possession of firearms, domestic violence by strangulation, burglary, vandalism, grand theft, stalking, violation of protective orders, threatening public officials and drug trafficking.

List of Pardoned Jan. 6 Rioters Who Have Faced New Criminal Charges​

https://www.newsweek.com/list-of-pardoned-jan-6-rioters-who-have-faced-new-criminal-charges-11318677


Drawing conclusions is left as an exercise for the reader.

 

[JMTronicHobbyist]

I wish John Doe success. But our system of government is now a fascist dictatorship. All US courts are kangaroo courts.

I'm not sure that's the case but there's a problem with lower courts ruling against the regime - every victory against the government slows everything down and gives DOJ and the six traitors on SC more time to hone their lies and get rid of the good guys still left.

 

[Bernardo Verda]

Does anyone know what ICE's actual authority is? I was under the impression they could only take action regarding federal immigration law, but here they are executing crowd control, warrantless searches and seizures, implementing traffic stops and checkpoints and assaulting protesters with chemical weapons.

Shouldn't the police at least be envious that these ICE upstarts are showing them up in terms of trampling of constitutional rights, unnecessary violence and plain murder?

That's why their armor kit now generally carries the label POLICE as well as ICE.

They know it's a lie -- because according to the law they aren't police; they don't have police powers, and are explicitly far more restricted in what they are allowed to do -- but they are eager to confuse the issue and claim authority that the law doesn't actually give them.

 

[JohnDeL]

So ACLUs biggest donor by the end of the year perhaps?

The way it is going, I expect to be bankrupt by the end on the month...

 

[Komarov]

So... in round numbers, only one person, Pamela Hemphill, just the one person out of over 1,500 participants in the Jan 6th assault had both enough brains, principle, and moral courage to reject Trump's mass pardon for the anti-democratic assault on Capitol Hill that Trump instigated. (That's less than a 1/10th of one percent.)

Convicted US Capitol rioter turns down Trump pardon​

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvged988377o

Why a Jan. 6 defendant rejected Trump's pardon​

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/23/nx-s...-6-rioter-doesnt-want-president-trumps-pardon

Former Trump supporter Pamela Hemphill refuses and returns her Jan. 6 pardon​

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pamela-hemphill-trump-supporter-refuses-jan-6-pardon/



Meanwhile, at least thirty pardonees have been charged and/or convicted for new serious crimes since the Jan 6th violence, or even since the insurrectionist pardon.

According to a recent House Judiciary Committee report, these charges include sexual assault, child sexual assault, production and possession of child pornography, rape, conspiracy to commit murder of FBI agents, kidnapping, aggravated robbery, reckless homicide, driving under the influence causing death, illegal possession of firearms, domestic violence by strangulation, burglary, vandalism, grand theft, stalking, violation of protective orders, threatening public officials and drug trafficking.

List of Pardoned Jan. 6 Rioters Who Have Faced New Criminal Charges​

https://www.newsweek.com/list-of-pardoned-jan-6-rioters-who-have-faced-new-criminal-charges-11318677


Drawing conclusions is left as an exercise for the reader.

Oof. I don't have the stamina to finish all the repeats in that exercise.