Instagram user fights DHS for the right to post ICE sightings anonymously

DHS is weirdly using import/export rules to expand its authority to identify online critics.

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[scrimbul]

The moment they started showing up in public wearing masks for no other reason than to hide their identity.

At this point, they're not just a secret police, but a literal, federally-funded, congressionally-sanctioned, domestic terrorist organization.

That description applied to the first Trump regime as a whole. It's the entire GOP.

The red value is the sheer number of domestic terrorists that need disenfranchisement for those outside the country watching at home.

 

[JohnDeL]

You could start calling this administration The Trump Admiration. Maybe inadvertent, but sometimes the universe offers happy accidents.

Other options:
The Trump Abomination.
The Trump Idolatry.
The Trump Destruction.
The Trump Descent into Madness.
The Trump Dismantlement.

Why not just "The Trumpery"?

 

[Wheels Of Confusion]

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They aren't even trying to hide what they are anymore.

I've also seen that slogan attributed to Spanish fascists. I haven't been able to unearth a source that pre-dates the circulation of this photo. I'd appreciate it if people would post their references when promulgating this kind of thing.

 

[scrimbul]

MAGA critiquing others serves only two purposes: laying groundwork for immunity for their own wrong doing, and gaining power. Once they have power, pointing out hypocrisy does nothing, because they don't hold any values or have any morals except the pursuit of more power for Trump and owning the libs.

And then on top of it all they accuse others of trying to act "morally superior"! Just the worst, most narcissistic, dysfunctional, people. Zay believe in nothing, Lewbowski, nothing. Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, at least its an ethos.

Therein lies the rub.

It's going to take the same level of hypocrisy they are displaying currently from their opposition to seize back power and right wrongs, as a matter of self-preservation regardless of pragmatic principle.

The hypocrisy IS pragmatic, even if it erodes due process, rule of law and civil rights, all the things necessary to run an economy and society.

 

[Shavano]

The land of the Free!™

Offer not valid in within 100 miles of any international border.

that's been revised to:
"Offer not valid within 10000 miles of the United States."

 

[Komarov]

Why is it still called ICE and not SA as would be more appropriate?

 

[huskcummerbund]

More like a third of us. At best.

Perhaps half of us that cared enough to vote then?

 

[L0neW0lf]

And so the Age of Orwell continues to rise in my country.

 

[Wheels Of Confusion]

Why is it still called ICE and not SA as would be more appropriate?

because It Can't Happen Here.

 

[huskcummerbund]

ICE and the national guard are now just being used as Trump's own paramilitary.

I think it's about time people started fighting back.

I mean, that's kind of the whole purpose behind the National Guard, to protect the states against tyranny. Too bad far too many of my former peers seem to have forgotten that.

 

[Komarov]

because It Can't Happen Here.

Oh, nice riposte! +1

(And on that note, it's ironic that SA goons had the balls to not wear masks.)

 

[Sulla]

How many DHS/ICE agents have actually been harmed by having this information publicized?

 

[Komarov]

How many DHS/ICE agents have actually been harmed by having this information publicized?

Allow me to quote from the one unimpeachable source:

Curiously, an edition of the Encyclopedia Galactica which fell through a rift in the time-space continuum from 1000 years in the future describes the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as: "A bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came."

You can never be too careful about what the future will bring.

And also your nick in the context of this conversation gives me the shivers...

 

[RZetopan]

The land of the Free!™

Offer not valid in within 100 miles of any international border.

Offer not valid in the entire US and its territories, including Venezuela, Canada, and Greenland. Cities located FAR from a border are also under threat, particularly with those populations who did NOT vote for the Orange Felon. Portland, Oregon is located quite distantly from international borders. But it is a "blue" state, which must, therefore, be overrun with international terrorists.

 

[Komarov]

Offer not valid in the entire US and its territories, including Venezuela, Canada, and Greenland. Cities located FAR from a border are also under threat, particularly those populations did NOT vote for the Orange Felon. Portland, Oregon is located rather distantly from any international border. But it is a "blue" state, which must, therefore, be overrun with international terrorists.

We international terrorists like to visit Portland for the craft beer, not because it has much to offer in terms of operational logistics.

ETA: ;drop database nsa_scanned_keywords_phrases

 

[mcswell]

Looking for guidelines. If I have a FB account, how do I post anonymously? Just create an account with a made up name? How much information do I need to give to FB to create that account? Can I use a VPN to post?

 

[cameron2]

Random question: If regular Joe's have no right to privacy in a public space, why do masked, armed thugboots?

This is the "up is down, black is white" moment that we are living through.

Whether we choose to embrace and defend the truth, or accept the lie, is all that is left to answer.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

 

[denemo]

Now how can ICE do its valuable job of creating a police state if everyone knows who they are, what they drive, and what weapons they have? Doesn't Doe realize that police states need secrecy? What's next? Posting videos of ICE breaking the law in order to kill someone over a misdemeanor offense?
/s

I've started a "cuss jar" for every time I see something that ICe or this administration does that makes me ask myself WTF? Every time the amount in the jar gets over $100, I send the money to the ACLU to help support their legal battles against Trump.

So ACLUs biggest donor by the end of the year perhaps?

 

[Komarov]

Looking for guidelines. If I have a FB account, how do I post anonymously? Just create an account with a made up name? How much information do I need to give to FB to create that account? Can I use a VPN to post?

BF is very nasty about fake accounts. You can create one, but have a good chance of it being flagged, blocked and then deleted. I'm guessing they have different criteria for community accounts.

Source: I tried that a few months ago, just for kicks. I don't have a Bacefook account.

 

[Aurich]

Why is “weirdly” the adjective here? When will journalists stop being limp-wristed cowards and start calling fascism by its name?

Also, while I’m on a rant: stop using “falsehoods” and just say “lies.”

While we're policing language it would be nice to not use "limp-wristed" since that's commonly used as a derogatory phrase about gay men.

The reason you see words like "falsehoods" and not "lies" is because a falsehood is a statement of fact that a journalist can back up, and a lie is a statement of intent that requires a much higher burden of proof. Accuracy in journalism matters, but it's also a practical issue. Journalists and news organizations are regularly sued for less.

I hear your frustration. I think the overly neutral language the NY Times uses is gross. But it's also important to recognize there are reasons for some of it.

 

[Komarov]

While we're policing language it would be nice to not use "limp-wristed" since that's commonly used as a derogatory phrase about gay men.

TIL...

...but it's grossly inaccurate. Gay men exercise their wrists as much as any other person with a functional dong.

 

[huskcummerbund]

So ACLUs biggest donor by the end of the year perhaps?

I legitimately wonder how many military service members donated the entirety of their $1776 "Warrior Dividend" to organizations like ACLU. I know at least one person that did.

 

[RZetopan]

Well, til. I always thought the original title for the organization was just a mundane version of “State Police.”

Felon45 did say that Hitler "did some good things". While much of the popular press continues to play totally deaf and completely sightless, with their backbones rivaling that of a jellyfish.

 

[AusPeter]

TIL...

...but it's grossly inaccurate. Gay men exercise their wrists as much as any other person with a functional dong.

Is that an ableist statement? /s

 

[ConfusedBystander]

I am still deeply confused about how ICE gets to go into communities wearing masks and hiding their badges in the first place? You should have to prove your authority before yoinking someone into a barely marked vehicle and racing away with them.

I’m certain that organized crime is paying NO attention to this development.

 

[graylshaped]

Photograph every ICE agent you see. Submit them to every AI you see. Start ID queries.

Did you read about how "AI" misidentified Ms. Good's murderer and multiple people sharing that incorrect name were harassed?

Yeah, don't do that, please.

 

[graylshaped]

The problem is that as long as they are getting their orders from the President and as long as Congress doesn't overrule those orders, they are not technically an insurrection.

Now, if Congress were to order ICE to stop the shit and ICE refused to do so, then things would get interesting (for certain values of "interesting"). But thus far, the Republicans have been kissing Trump's jackboots.

The Tenth Amendment coughs, gently...

 

[crepuscularbrolly]

TIL...

...but it's grossly inaccurate. Gay men exercise their wrists as much as any other person with a functional dong.

You should tell Alan “Chatty Man” Carr that.

 

[crepuscularbrolly]

I've also seen that slogan attributed to Spanish fascists. I haven't been able to unearth a source that pre-dates the circulation of this photo. I'd appreciate it if people would post their references when promulgating this kind of thing.

But there is this:



https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/29118

 

[Oldnoobguy]

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They aren't even trying to hide what they are anymore.

God damnit! I'm now physically ill from seeing this. Our nextdoor neighbor and good friend's mother was sent to a concentration camp, along with all the women in her small Czechoslovakian town under that abhorrent Nazi policy. All the men and boys were murdered by the Nazis. Why? Because a Nazi officer was assassinated in the town. I can't even begin to adequately express the outrage I have towards that vile thing standing behind the podium in that image.

Edit: I just saw Wheels' post and also wasn't able to find any references for that quote other than within the last few days. I confess to allowing my amygdala to take over from the higher regions of my brain. However, given that the Nazis regularly exercised collective punishment, and that they did destroy Lidice as collective punishment, the village home of my friend's mother, causing trauma which my friend still feels to this day, I stand by what I said about Noem. Those words on the podium are a threat of collective punishment; it doesn't matter if a Nazi actually said them in the past, because Noem and DHS are threatening to do today what Nazis did in the past. They are Nazis.

 

[chaos215bar2]

Trump has a near 90% win rate when cases make it to the SCOTUS.

Look at all the cases that don't make it that far.

Saying "all courts are now kangaroo courts" is not only wrong, it encourages people to sit at home doing nothing, thinking they've already lost. That's the opposite of what we need.

 

[ericfresh]

Freedom of speech...just watch what you say. Ice-T

 

[chaos215bar2]

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They aren't even trying to hide what they are anymore.

And have we confirmed this isn't some stupid AI image someone generated to stir up… let's say… an unhelpful response to the situation?

These people are ghouls, but this is still a bit too on the nose.

 

[EnPeaSea]

If you wondered what the average German citizen did as the Nazis rose to power, you are living it in real-time.

 

[chaos215bar2]

The reason you see words like "falsehoods" and not "lies" is because a falsehood is a statement of fact that a journalist can back up, and a lie is a statement of intent that requires a much higher burden of proof.

If this is true, why are journalists constantly telling us what these people "believe" rather than what they "say"?

I don't buy it. I've heard more than one reporter switch to calling things "lies" recently, and that makes me think this was more likely just some journalistic standard they had been trying to follow rather than something imposed by the legal team.

 

[rochrist]

Note: any airport that accepts international flights is an considered international border for this 100 mile boundary.

As well as any airport that has flights that connect with airports that host international flights.

 

[Bernardo Verda]

God damnit! I'm now physically ill from seeing this. Our nextdoor neighbor and good friend's mother was sent to a concentration camp, along with all the women in her small Czechoslovakian town under that abhorrent Nazi policy. All the men and boys were murdered by the Nazis. Why? Because a Nazi officer was assassinated in the town. I can't even begin to adequately express the outrage I have towards that vile thing standing behind the podium in that image.

Edit: I just saw Wheels' post and also wasn't able to find any references for that quote other than within the last few days. I confess to allowing my amygdala to take over from the higher regions of my brain. However, given that the Nazis regularly exercised collective punishment, and that they did destroy Lidice as collective punishment, the village home of my friend's mother, causing trauma which my friend still feels to this day, I stand by what I said about Noem. Those words on the podium are a threat of collective punishment; it doesn't matter if a Nazi actually said them in the past, because Noem and DHS are threatening to do today what Nazis did in the past. They are Nazis.

It might not have been an official slogan, but it does seem to have been more or less official policy.

 

[rochrist]

I'd have gone with the moment it was given the "Homeland" designation. This has been two decades a'brewing.

edit: and I see asbestos beat me to that thought.

Yep. That name bothered me right from day one. It reeks of 1938 Germany.

 

[crepuscularbrolly]

God damnit! I'm now physically ill from seeing this. Our nextdoor neighbor and good friend's mother was sent to a concentration camp, along with all the women in her small Czechoslovakian town under that abhorrent Nazi policy. All the men and boys were murdered by the Nazis. Why? Because a Nazi officer was assassinated in the town. I can't even begin to adequately express the outrage I have towards that vile thing standing behind the podium in that image.

Edit: I just saw Wheels' post and also wasn't able to find any references for that quote other than within the last few days. I confess to allowing my amygdala to take over from the higher regions of my brain. However, given that the Nazis regularly exercised collective punishment, and that they did destroy Lidice as collective punishment, the village home of my friend's mother, causing trauma which my friend still feels to this day, I stand by what I said about Noem. Those words on the podium are a threat of collective punishment; it doesn't matter if a Nazi actually said them in the past, because Noem and DHS are threatening to do today what Nazis did in the past. They are Nazis.

The various social media posts are likely referencing the same event as your neighbor's mother: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidice_massacre

 

[Thresher]

They won't even take off their masks. Why would we trust them with this sort of information?