It's an unlikely coalition that’s been hyping Tesla’s stock slide since its launch.
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Just incredible how Musk has managed to alienate almost every demographic in just a few short years.
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The left grew disillusioned with him when he started going full-fascist around 2023, turning to full hate after the Trump endorsement. Now the right hates him too (he impugned the Great Pumpkin!)
This is a great position for a high-profile, personality-selling businessman.
EDIT: Yes, I'm aware he was an asshole long before 2023. He leaked fascist thoughts when he was too high to stop himself starting a long time ago
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It's a shame, what a mess. Tesla was The American EV company and an important part of electrifying transportation and fighting climate change, but Musk crossed the Rubicon into politics, poisoned his brand, and he can't take that back. We're worse off now. We have so many problems to face and lots and lots of flawed solutions and tools. At this point I'm hoping for activist investors to push him out and maybe something worthwhile can be made of Tesla - but the shine is gone regardless.
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He may be, officially at least, 'stepping back' from his daily work of trying to destroy the government, but he is still a pushing nazi shit on xitter, his doge moles are still in place, and he is still getting tons of government cash. So more power to the takedown.
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Yes, giving Donald Trump control of Tesla and SpaceX and the power to control their sale, that would make things better, let's totally do that
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More than just a few. It started with the Tham Luang cave rescue in 2018, it just snowballed in the past few years.
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Instructables can be Confusable
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It did not "appear" as anything. That was a Nazi salute. He can deny all he wants to. But you don't throw that out as a joke.
Fuck Elon.
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I'm glad I'm too much of a pussy to short Tesla because it is fucking remarkable how well they prove that the market can remain irrational longer than I can stay solvent.
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Godspeed. I live abroad making it hard not to feel impotent watching my country politically disintegrate. Seeing protesters is one of the few things that gives me some hope.
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I think it has a huge amount to do with the negative press he constantly generates. Most of my peer group, who are the sort of people who might have bought a Tesla, won't do it now.
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Check your calendar. When Covid restrictions kicked in during early 2020, those first many months when hospitals were inundated, bodies were filling up morgues and we still weren’t quite sure how to deal with it to reduce casualties, Mr Musk refused a health order by California state gov to shut down his Fremont plant. This is when he decided to build a plant in Texas (July), which didn’t care if people died. Timing is also important. This is when he needed to pass a certain performance threshold, to get that first huge payout of several billion dollars, remember that? That’s when he changed. The greed got to him. It was overnight. He went ‘right’ in the second half of 2020.
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I've said before that Musk was the perfect CEO to run a startup in the auto and space industries. He's bad at mature companies. I've wanted him out as CEO of Tesla since he did the "no lidar! no IR sensors! just cameras and ai!" bit.
As a liberal, before 2020 he was a minimally acceptable billionaire. He actually risked his own money to invest in high-risk, high-payoff projects like EVs and cheap rockets like the Objectivists say all rich people do. (No, he wouldn't have been bankrupt if SpaceX had failed, but he's be stuck at hundred-millionaire poor boy). I could mostly ignore his politics as long as he was just another glibertarian blowhard. Then he went down the radicalization pipeline to Qanon.
One thing few people noticed was that the Christian Nationalists started hating him almost immediately after the inauguration. Musk was gleefully doing everything on the oligarch's checklist, but the Christian Nationalists were getting very little of what they thought Trump had promised them. Just in random doomscrolling I came across two different CN influencers who were matching Musk to the prophecies of Revelations.
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It would be better if it was short (and not short because the movement ran out of steam).
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I don't see any signs that Musk himself changed. Especially given his creepy as fuck behavior towards women and active discrimination problems at his facilities.
The thing that changed is that he completely stopped managing his own image of being a savior figure like Tony Stark.
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This is wisdom for the ages- Thank you for reminding me why i need to be careful if i ever get money*.
*Currently being a pussy isn't my problem; my current malady is 'broke-ass-bitch', but I'm saving & paying down debt!
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You may be indifferent and you can speak for yourself, but I think that perspective leads you to underrate not just how much people dislike Musk but also the company's long-standing hostility to protections for workers, investors, air and water quality, minorities, safety, and the communities they operate in.
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Yeah. His degree of self-control and accountability changed, the number of people around him willing to rein him in changed, but he's still who he always was. Maybe some of his failure modes got amplified by taking what sounds like all the drugs, but even that's a matter of degree.
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Tesla is always overvalued compared to industry competitors. It is wild listening to experienced stock analysts drinking the Elon Musk kool-aid and talking about a incredible Tesla stock price gain just around the corner. I don't know what it is.
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Was that before or after he tried selling a butane torch bolted to an air-soft handle as a flamethrower?
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The movement may have run out of steam but it did make the Tesla brand toxic to many people, caused enough chaos to force Musk out of DC earlier than intended (yeah, DOGE is still screwing things up and most of the damage is done) and IMO fueled the inevitable breakup between Trump & Musk.
What drives me nuts is that a couple random tweets lead to a focused demonstration that for the first time caused an actual disruption in the administration’s agenda. Meanwhile, despite their vast resources, the Democratic Party has done nothing. The Dems need to build a propaganda machine.
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The problem is you're focusing on the exceptions rather than the rule. There is no need to remind people when 99.9999% of what is going on is perfectly nonviolent. It makes you as bad as Trump talking about how LA is burning down.
Ironically, the one who did the most damage to Tesla drivers in this case is Musk and Trump calling this terrorism. That is exactly the excuse insurance needs to not pay to fix the cars if they got keyed or spray-painted.
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Not just nationalizing, having the government run anything is bad. We know everything would have consumers best interests if it were run by private interests. If anything we should turn the government over to Elon to privatize everything!
Oh wait .....
/s (just to be clear)
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The judiciary needs to grow a pair and have checks and balances
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Jesus fucking christ, get a fucking perspective and take your head out of Musk's ass.
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I'm a federal employee. Were either of you sanctimoniously wringing your hands for me when Elon was threatening my livelihood and that of hundreds of thousands of my colleagues? Bet fucking not.
Tesla is a shit company, and Tesla's success directly enriches Elon. Elon is a fascist piece of shit who has done incalculable damage to the effectiveness of the federal government, to basic and applied research, to American soft power, and to the rule of law in this country. Tesla has violated every regulatory protection I can think of for investors, workers, air and water quality, and their own customers. I don't particularly wish ill on Tesla employees and their families, at least the ones not directly complicit in enabling Elon. Mortgage ain't gonna pay itself. For whatever it's worth, I hope they move on before the house of cards collapses. The ones who are complicit, fuck them, and the same goes for those who rhetorically carry water for them by disingenuously appealing to my fucking compassion.
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Tell us how much money you lost it’ll help this schadenfreude go down easier.
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Musk has done a wonderful job of disproving the 'great man' theory of history. He's been successful despite his actions and personality which shows that the people around him are working 1000% harder than he does.
People STILL telling me that he's actually a genius or that he had some great ideas and lost his way are on my side-eye list. He's just another sociopath from a rich family that failed upward. Yes he chose some companies that do things that we like but he wasn't the secret sauce there.
I've been to my local Tesla protest, it's pretty chill except for some angry Tesla owners that feel personally insulted for some reason. We don't mind that you bought the car but please stop supporting the owner.
People STILL telling me that he's actually a genius or that he had some great ideas and lost his way are on my side-eye list. He's just another sociopath from a rich family that failed upward. Yes he chose some companies that do things that we like but he wasn't the secret sauce there.
I've been to my local Tesla protest, it's pretty chill except for some angry Tesla owners that feel personally insulted for some reason. We don't mind that you bought the car but please stop supporting the owner.
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