Pennsylvania hospitals are running at 110%, while Maine and New York call National Guard.
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NPR has the data. Very clear correlation between percentage of county having voted for Trump and the deaths per 100k... https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... death-rate
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As of today, Omicron has been detected in 22 US states. One Houston hospital had 8 cases. Delta's still what's driving the current wave, but it won't be long...
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Yup. Projections show Omicron expected to be dominant in the UK just in time for Xmas. Today's UK figures (data from 3 days ago) show Omicron at 6% of tests, and doubling about every 3 days. Let's hope 3 million boosters per week (approx 4% of UK population) will just about keep the ICU and death rate under control.
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So very much wrong with your post, it is hard to know where to start.
Not everyone is going to get Covid. Study after study has shown that if you are vaccinated, you are far less likely to get sick, need hospitalization and die. No vaccine is 100% effective, and no one has ever claimed that.
Stop ruining society???? Tell that to the people who are dying with heart attacks and other health issues because some unvaccinated moron is taking up an ICU bed with their stupidity.
Masks do cut the spread of Covid. The anti-mask governor of Missouri found that out, and then made sure he covered up that report because it didn't agree with his viewpoint.
Call us out all you want. Of course, once you are in a hospital on a ventilator, calling anyone out is going to be tough to do---assuming you can even find an empty ICU bed.
In the meantime, the jackbooted thugs will continue to burn books, ban CRT, propose cameras in school classrooms to prevent teaching of anything that doesn't match what the far right wingers approve of. And of course, those same thugs will luxuriate in the thrill of storming the Capitol, beating police officers, chanting "Hang Mike Pence", erecting a gallows outside the Capitol.
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A New Yorker article which reviews the challenges facing health care workers. It delves into the mindset of the unvaccinated, some of the misinformation they're exposed to, and the scientific insights into the "burnout" which is causing health care workers to bail.
In New Mexico, the Pandemic Rages On
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So how many deaths to meaningfully impact voting results in red states? I mean....
Hey, that's not fair. The copperhead probably just wanted to be left alone and wouldn't bother you. It wasn't going to spread a disease that could kill you.
Plus they're pretty.
Hey, that's not fair. The copperhead probably just wanted to be left alone and wouldn't bother you. It wasn't going to spread a disease that could kill you.
Plus they're pretty.
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Get fucked.
Despite an otherwise incompetent, reactionary federal government, the Australian handling of the pandemic has resulted in some of the lowest infection, hospitalisation and death rates in the world.
Edit: I promise you that the rate of people being fined in Australia is significantly lower than the rate of people dying of covid in the US. I'd pay $5k if it could bring a covid victim back from the dead. Most humane, non death cult societies would.
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A cousin-by-marriage died of COVID a couple months ago, after two months in the hospital. Church funeral and maybe 5% of the 150+ attendees wore masks.
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I already booked plane tickets home at what point is it smart or ethical to just not go. I've put my life on hold for years now. My grandmother has maybe 3-5 years left, I'd really like to see her. But doing so could easily mean she suddenly has 0 years left.
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ColdWetDog
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And then what do we do them? Leave them in the ER? Send them home?
Come on folks, I know it's frustrating. I *really* know it's frustrating. But all of this stuff about curtailing care or insurance coverage is really nonsensical.
Just think through the problems. The moment you allow health care systems to limit care to *anyone*, hospitals and insurers and politicians will add the next subjective pariah to that list. Which could well be you.
Yeah it sucks and unless Omicron has really learned some manners, it's going to get worse.
Seasonally Appropriate Wishes to All!
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Genuinely confused; aren't most Americans already accustomed to the idea that a random medical issue can lead to bankruptcy at pretty much any moment?
If its normal to live with the threat of medical bankruptcy, how does threatening someone with medical bankruptcy change their behaviour?
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While i would like to agree it sets a dangerous precedent.
Ever smoked? Pay for your lung cancer treatment.
Not wearing a seat belt? Pay if you are in a car accident.
Eat red meat once a week. Pay for your heart surgery.
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And yet it's our healthcare system that's crumbling too.
Well, I for one feel completely owned by data like that.
Unfortunately they've made sure that's not an option. Red states use it as a platform to re-elect right-wingers. Activist judges are telling OSHA it can't regulate workplace safety. Astro-turf campaigns are filling all the school board meetings with people who don't give a shit about the rules of the meeting, they're just there to make death threats against anyone who might tell their kid to wear a mask. At every level the idea of a "mandate" is becoming increasingly unlikely. They are determined to make sure they have the freedom to swing their fist wherever they want, even if there's a nose in the way.
Send them home.
This already happens to people who can't afford treatment anyway. The ER can't turn you away, but they don't have to give you the cure for Hep C either.
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Especially when that someone running the country currently and the departments under him are consistently saying get vaccinated, ensuring vaccines are available, fast pacing allowing boosters (pissing off the rest of the world to a degree), etc. They also have attempt to force more and more of the population to get vaccinate knowing that it works and is the only way to make things better for all of us... yet are hitting legal challenges often Republican led.
Yeah it would be great if we didn't have to deal with mandates and the slippery slope aspects (as some see it) to having those and the stepping on "freedom" (as some see it) that those imply... but when folks are asked to get vaccinated, are shown very real and concrete data on the benefits, etc. and still don't do it because of some political minds set... not sure what more you want.
To me I take it as my personal responsibility to not be a problem to others or cause harm to others, one of the reason I am vaccinated and am trying my best to get boosted.
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These facts are obviously untrue and fake news because they do not match my beliefs.
What the graph shows, the redder the column, the bigger it is. How could that possibly be a bad thing? We're #1!!!!
Yep... look at that sad, limp blue when compared to the proud, virile, erect red! /s
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Because people are in the hospital for more than one day. it's cases per day vs total people in the hospital, not new hospitalizations per day.
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It's been almost 2 years since the start. I can't speak for others, but I'm past GAF. They make their choices and and they take their lumps. If they prefer their lumps be wheezing on a ventilator in an isolated room somewhere with the increased likelihood of death, what else can I do?
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Bio weapons only work if you have [and use] the antidote (vaccine). These geniuses didn't think that far ahead did they?
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Some of these people literally believe that hospitals were killing people to make money, yet they are willing to go to the hospital when they are sick with covid? Ye of little faith...
Good thing is we will eventually run out of the unvaccinated, one way or another.
Good thing is we will eventually run out of the unvaccinated, one way or another.
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Some baser members of their base openly indicated AIDS was punishment meted to homosexuals by a higher power. So COVID must be punishment meted by a higher power to punish . . . incompetents?
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Ask the people who aren't getting vaccinated and don't believe President Biden is the President.
Anything I could tell you is really just speculation.
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In all states, there are “red” and “blue” areas. So, Pennsylvania and New York are seeing major spikes in their more rural areas. Plus, it doesn’t take a whole lot of stupid to fill up every ICU in a state. New York has only 4500 icu beds for 19 million people (2.3 beds per 10,000). 300,000 unvaccinated people can fill those up.
The real issue is the beds aren’t just for Covid. They’re for heart attacks, major operations, auto accidents, etc. Their “choice” affects others.
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I think the calculation is that it doesn't actually kill enough of them to hurt their election chances, and still lets them keep their base angry.
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People will only change their behavior if they either have to pay or are otherwise inconvenienced. As long as you give them the choice of not doing something and just appeal to their common sense, they won't change.
Here in Germany, there are still lots of people who do not want to get vaccinated. But now that the government has finally introduced rules that e.g. restaurants, bars, public events and so on can ONLY be visited by people who either are vaccinated or have recovered from covid (plus in some cases an additional daily test is required for even these persons) - that is, unvaccinated are not allowed to attend at all - suddenly a lot of the people who vehemently opposed getting vaccinated think "oh, no more restaurants for me - nah, can't have that, let's get vaccinated".
Up to now, for restaurants etc. a daily test was enough, so many just used the free daily tests and still chose not to get vaccinated. But when confronted with the fact that they now no longer can go to a public event or a restaurant at all, that was inconvenience enough to get the vaccine.
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OrangeCream
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The problem with that logic is that for the foreseeable future that means the Red team is losing 1.6% of the sick, with 10% needing long term care (30 days or longer of recovery).
Of course it only affects 10% of the Red population every year, but at the current rate it's guaranteed to affect 100% of the Red population.
So 1.6% will be dead, total
10% will be sick
1% will be in the hospital or require long term care
And due to a lack of immunity and to waning immunity, they will never hit a point where 10% won't be sick. It literally won't end for several more years.
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All other factors being equal, a self-declared Republican tends to be a more reliable voter than a demographically similar Democrat, so there’s a differential weighting to mortality in the voter population. Though in the post-Trump topsy-turvy statistical world, I wouldn’t hazard a guess at a value for that weight beyond “somewhere between .95 and .50 for each Democrat”.
IOW, a meaningful effect would be happening marginally faster; still, other factors, including normal demographic change and changes in attitudes and in the economy and individual candidate attributes and matchups are going to matter more. Nonetheless, COVID could conceivably flip a single race in 2022 or a state’s electoral college vote in 2024, albeit with low odds.
COVID isn’t a solution to any problems, despite my guilty schadenfreude when a truly awful person gets what they asked for; and I don’t mean run-of-the-mill folk on “the other side”.
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Considering most of the unvaccinated are Republican cultists who hate socialism, they will surely agree that providing free medical care to unvaccinated COVID people who are sick and dying is evil, Leftist socialism at its worst and they should just let the free market decide.
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The mortality rate is low enough for most purposes on its own, but combined with gerrymandering it will have zero impact on legislative races (state or federal). The only thing it may impact are statewide races in evenly-split states -- which is nothing to sneeze at! Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, Minnesota, Nevada may all have statewide margins narrow enough to be affected by the accumulated MAGA suicides in the next few elections. Unfortunately many of these states also have legislatures (see "zero impact" earlier) who seem hell bent on throwing out any vote that doesn't favor Republicans.
As for keeping the base angry, it's not just about staying angry/motivated. It's about keeping their base deranged/murderous. They are being groomed to think that their relatives were murdered by doctors, that their medical bills are someone else's fault, and that... wearing a cheap mask is a hardship (yeah, I saved the weirdest for last). Two thousand terrorists very nearly overthrew the federal government eleven months ago. There are millions of desperate, grieving, bankrupted, brainwashed potential terrorists being groomed right now to be set off on a word from Trump. I can't imagine that the mission wouldn't be repeated attempts at the same objective, via undoing the next few elections if needed.
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Given all of the voter suppression tactics in store for future elections, COVID deaths may be the only way Democrats can pull out wins in certain states. Let the idiots kill themselves off.
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Perfect example why Democracy only works with an educated and intelligent population.
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