Hertz is selling 20,000 used EVs due to high repair costs

The rental car company will replace them with gasoline-powered vehicles.

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[Danrarbc]

I'm a little surprised they bungled this so badly. Seems like some better thought out controls on who (and for what reasons) they would rent this out would have gone a long way.

Hopefully they're at least going to prioritize hybrids rather than pure ICE as the replacements.

I'm not really surprised. They were already in horrible financial condition and were kind of lucky they were able to get through it as well as they did.

A company that gets itself in to that position once without a sufficient change in leadership will just end up back there again.

 

[Danrarbc]

Because unlike batteries, engines and transmissions are inexpensively repaired past the warranty.

The fuck you say? That's a $10,000+ job for modern cars.

How many times are you going to lie and misinform in this one thread?

 

[Danrarbc]

In reality, of course, you can keep a BEV running for decades by just repairing the parts that break.

 

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Yes, I saw that, and took that as their weasle words. Turns out that they are legal because they don't do li-ion batteries "*We ONLY SELL Original OEM compatible Panasonic NiMH batteries!" https://www.priuskings.com/shop

It's weird, though. The reconditioning part was on the same page; they must have updated the Web page in the meantime. I wish I had made a screenshot.

The simplest explanation is you're either lying or saw what you wanted to see ¯\(°_o)/¯

Sure. It's just gonna cost you a pretty penny because once the battery is gone, you can't replace that.

"Once the battery is gone" is not how any of this works. BEVs all track battery health, many of them display it in a useful way to the driver (and the rest it can be pulled with a diagnostic tool). With the exception of the oldest Leaf models the batteries wear at about the same rate throughout their lives and it's therefore pretty easy to project a given battery pack's lifespan. An unexpected failure is fairly unlikely. And you've already established that you can in fact replace that, but maybe possibly not in one single city in the whole damn country (and you've still failed to prove that it's actually illegal),

 

[Danrarbc]

Of course. A battery either works, or it has failed. There is no in between.

Except there is an in between with rechargeable batteries. Individual cells slowly lose a percentage of their maximum capacity over time. So the individual cells don't just either work or fail, they individually get less effective over time. And BEVs have a ton of individual cells - so even if you end up with a defective cell in there it typically doesn't kill the entire pack, only a subset of it.

Right. And it's totally useless (in this context), because even if it did tell you when the battery is likely to fail (which it does not), there is literally nothing you can do about that.


Major fallacy. You can't use the linear phase to project the end-of-life, because at some point it stops being linear.

The important point is that with a battery, there is basically nothing you can do to prevent that. With a gasoline engine, you can, with inexpensive repairs.

Except you can make repairs in many cases. And you're ignoring that we have more than a decade of battery wear data available for modern battery pack designs showing this really isn't a problem over the lifespans people actually use cars for. Yeah sure maybe there's a problem at the 400,000 mile mark but that's not a realistic expectation most people have.