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Why would you say that? Why would you even remind me that movie existed? What have I ever done to you to deserve such pain?[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944471#p28944471:16pxlej5 said:siliconaddict[/url]":16pxlej5]When they announced the Wing Commander movie I was so damn hyped for it. After WC III and IV I thought OMG THAT but full length movie. And then it was released and my soul died a little.![]()
Oh look, another fun article where we pretend Lee has grown upThe five space sims that defined my youth
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944165#p28944165:2mn32xkn said:Shakespeare212[/url]":2mn32xkn]I believe the Rapier was a Medium Fighter...Sabre was the Heavy Fighter in that line of ships.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944573#p28944573:eys7zenr said:Pokrface[/url]":eys7zenr]Wing Commander movie? Yeah, I heard rumors, but fortunately I don't think they ever made one. That'd be like if they made a second Highlander movie.
No, sigh, I saw it. Beautiful, bombastic overture....horrifyingly terrible film.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944641#p28944641:s3pj52f9 said:siliconaddict[/url]":s3pj52f9][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944573#p28944573:s3pj52f9 said:Pokrface[/url]":s3pj52f9]Wing Commander movie? Yeah, I heard rumors, but fortunately I don't think they ever made one. That'd be like if they made a second Highlander movie.
Don't see it. For the love of all that is good and holy just don't if you haven't. It was so bad.
You flatter us, but it's fortysomethings.The great grand-daddy of them all is Ian Bell and David Braben’s Elite. Initially released for the BBC Micro and Acorn Electron home computers (devices that will be familiar to thirtysomethings from the UK and few else)....
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944607#p28944607:rv0cqoxh said:Zak[/url]":rv0cqoxh]"Capital ships fired ridiculously large, ridiculously powerful beam weapons at each other," -- yeah, I remember that from Freespace2 as well. That game was lots of fun. I never found a space sim as god as that since then.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944573#p28944573:2szaipi8 said:Pokrface[/url]":2szaipi8]Wing Commander movie? Yeah, I heard rumors, but fortunately I don't think they ever made one. That'd be like if they made a second Highlander movie.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944641#p28944641:2gljdea7 said:siliconaddict[/url]":2gljdea7][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944573#p28944573:2gljdea7 said:Pokrface[/url]":2gljdea7]Wing Commander movie? Yeah, I heard rumors, but fortunately I don't think they ever made one. That'd be like if they made a second Highlander movie.
Don't see it. For the love of all that is good and holy just don't if you haven't. It was so bad.
(and I’ll be the first to admit that Wing Commander and Elite are both… a little thin, from a gameplay perspective)
80386DX didn't have in inboard FPU—you're thinking of the 486DX/SX distinction. An 80386SX had a 16-bit data bus instead of the DX version's 32-bit bus.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944723#p28944723:janqax4o said:phoenix_rizzen[/url]":janqax4o]Ran fine on a 386sx2 (no FPU!) running at 66 MHz.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944723#p28944723:2rwv0gpn said:phoenix_rizzen[/url]":2rwv0gpn]Played TIE Fighter first as I found it in the bargain bin (on CD). That game lead me to buying a Gravis joystick, as playing with the mouse just sucked.Ran fine on a 386sx2 (no FPU!) running at 66 MHz. Had to write a custom config.sys/autoexec.bat and not load Windows 3.1, but it ran just fine.
Then I found the collector's edition of X-Wing ... and was severally disappointed in it. The controls were just too wonky, and they were missing the "Match speed to opponent" feature!! Wasn't until later I realised X-Wing came out first.
A few computer upgrades later (486dx4 at 133 MHz with a Gravis UltraSound ACE soundcard, then a Pentium-MMX laptop at 166 MHz), I picked up a Thrustmaster USB joystick to go with Windows 98, and picked up X-Wing Alliance and Secret Weapons Over Normandy. Those were some great games!
I really miss the old days of space/flight combat games (they were NOT sims!). I can't stand the space combat sims that came out around then or that are available now. I don't want to worry about inertia, or physics of combat in space, or pitch/yaw/roll, or the andle of the ailerons, etc. I just want to fly around and shoot things, damn it!
Just found my Thrustmaster the other day and I am very tempted to head over to GoG to pick some of these up ... Just not sure how/when I could play them with a 3-year old and a 6-month old in the house ...
Yes. Please, yes, this. I cherish the memories of "gaming" with my dad—which was really almost all him doing the flying and me pointing at stuff and making suggestions and just...hanging out with my dad. Starflight, Elite, Space Quest, a bunch of others...gaming with my dad is probably why I love games so much, and those memories are one the greatest gifts I have.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944809#p28944809:3jmxvabs said:Not A Rocket Scientist[/url]":3jmxvabs]Get them to help you play! That's what I'm planning to do with my kids, anyway!
Also, it's ton's of fun in the moment. You get to play games AND spend time with your kids? What's not to love?[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944845#p28944845:qqa469wc said:Pokrface[/url]":qqa469wc]Yes. Please, yes, this. I cherish the memories of "gaming" with my dad—which was really almost all him doing the flying and me pointing at stuff and making suggestions and just...hanging out with my dad. Starflight, Elite, Space Quest, a bunch of others...gaming with my dad is probably why I love games so much, and those memories are one the greatest gifts I have.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944809#p28944809:qqa469wc said:Not A Rocket Scientist[/url]":qqa469wc]Get them to help you play! That's what I'm planning to do with my kids, anyway!
If you have kids, game with them. You'll give them a lifetime of joyful memories to keep.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944827#p28944827:3amxlcxh said:Sammael7[/url]":3amxlcxh]Hull damaging weapons that did greater damage to... hulls, shield damaging weapons that did more damage to shields so you could start making better use of those hull damaging weapons that were weak against shields. And then there were laser beam weapons that could pierce the shields and take out specific sub systems like engines/weapons/shields.
There were finite per mission missile weapons that did devastating damage, but could be countered with a ships electronic jamming systems, which could in turn be jammed by the firing missile ships own counter jamming systems. Such glorious mechanics of cat and mouse.
If it's this game, then that's very much a fleet-based RTS as opposed to a cockpit-style space combat sim. Very different kind of game. That looks a hell of a lot more like EVE than Freespace or Wing Commander.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944827#p28944827:2bs1orwx said:Sammael7[/url]":2bs1orwx]The greatest space sim ever made (if it can be categorized as that) was "Nexus : The Jupiter Incident."
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And so its shining example stays hidden in the past while lesser sims and rts variants take the spotlight.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944773#p28944773:22x5qwiz said:Pokrface[/url]":22x5qwiz]80386DX didn't have in inboard FPU—you're thinking of the 486DX/SX distinction. An 80386SX had a 16-bit data bus instead of the DX version's 32-bit bus.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944723#p28944723:22x5qwiz said:phoenix_rizzen[/url]":22x5qwiz]Ran fine on a 386sx2 (no FPU!) running at 66 MHz.
(Also, I don't think the clock rate on a 386 ever went higher than 40MHz!)
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944773#p28944773:2jbttelu said:Pokrface[/url]":2jbttelu]80386DX didn't have in inboard FPU—you're thinking of the 486DX/SX distinction. An 80386SX had a 16-bit data bus instead of the DX version's 32-bit bus.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944723#p28944723:2jbttelu said:phoenix_rizzen[/url]":2jbttelu]Ran fine on a 386sx2 (no FPU!) running at 66 MHz.
(Also, I don't think the clock rate on a 386 ever went higher than 40MHz!)
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944891#p28944891:21qp1vh5 said:Pokrface[/url]":21qp1vh5]If it's this game, then that's very much a fleet-based RTS as opposed to a cockpit-style space combat sim. Very different kind of game. That looks a hell of a lot more like EVE than Freespace or Wing Commander.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944827#p28944827:21qp1vh5 said:Sammael7[/url]":21qp1vh5]The greatest space sim ever made (if it can be categorized as that) was "Nexus : The Jupiter Incident."
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And so its shining example stays hidden in the past while lesser sims and rts variants take the spotlight.
Those were awesome moments. I remember flying between capital ships when those beam weapons fire up & almost getting obliterated in the cross-fire. I must've jumped in my seat (and later check my face to see if my eyebrows had been burned off)Capital ships fired ridiculously large, ridiculously powerful beam weapons at each other, slicing each other to ribbons and providing a fantastic Babylon 5-esque backdrop while the player duels enemy fighters.
Given the context, I assume you meant "watch your six".[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28944049#p28944049:3sykx9ak said:Pokrface[/url]":3sykx9ak]Watch your back, Bangeman.
Though I could fight my way through the campaign to the Death Star trench run, I could never complete the mission, which required a protracted amount of dodging around obstacles and turbolaser fire