Google delivers another phone that is slightly better than its predecessor—is that enough?
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It'd be a lot easier to justify if I believed that the phone would physically survive and remain technologically viable for use for anything close to theGoogle's new Pixel 10 Pro Fold retains the $1,800 price tag of last year's model, and while it's improved in several key ways, spending almost two grand on any phone remains hard to justify.
that are promised. I spent, what, $1400 on my 13 Pro Max? I've gotten nearly four years of use from it so far, on the original battery. And while I don't feel like it owes me any money, I'm definitely hoping to get a few more years of use out of it as a secondary phone.Seven years of update support
Do they say how they came to this number? It would be nice to see a YouTube video of a test rig folding a phone 100,000 times and showing what the phone looks like afterwards.Dropping the internal gears allegedly helps make the mechanism twice as durable. Google claims the Pixel 10 Pro Fold's hinge will last for more than 10 years of folding and unfolding.
Just wait. The 9 Pro Fold launched at £1749 but can now be bought used (with warranty) for ~£600. The depreciation on these is even worse than used car prices.I could see how a folding phone could be nice, but I can't possibly justify the expense even if I had the money, I'd rather get another 3D printer, a better gpu, a new tv, a sound bar for that TV, a cheap tablet or two, and a steamdeck.
I'm pretty sure I could get most, if not all of that, for the price of a new foldable phone, I'll stick to my keycera echo.
Define "enough".Google delivers another phone that is slightly better than its predecessor—is that enough?
This strikes me as fairly impressive, but the real question is, for how many of those ten years will the hinge maintain its dust and water resistence? To quote another, unrelated part of the article out of context...Google claims the Pixel 10 Pro Fold's hinge will last for more than 10 years of folding and unfolding...the Pixel 10 Pro Fold [is] the first foldable with full IP68 certification for water and dust resistance.
We expect that gap to widen...
I'm an Apple guy these days, but I gotta say, if someone gave me this phone, I'd own the $#!+ out of it. It wouldn't be my primary phone, but I'd definitely stick my Verizon prepaid SIM in there. I'd rather it run iOS but I'd definitely get some use out of it. And I wouldn't have to worry about being phoneless while it was being repaired.Define "enough".
Personally, I look at it and don't think physics will allow a phone like that with normal usage to survive the 7 years it's supposed to be supported. EVEN IF the repairs are fast, you're still phoneless for a period of time because a folding phone doesn't make physics sense. It adds a huge amount of entropy in a system that doesn't NEED it t function well.
And don't get me started on the price.
So, it's a value judgement left to the buyer, as most phones are. I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me. I foresee the issues that it will have eventually. With a slab, they have issues, too, but FAR fewer than the foldable phone has, at a price point that doesn't make people like me gasp in appalled shock and go, "You paid HOW much for that?!"
I could see how a folding phone could be nice, but I can't possibly justify the expense even if I had the money, I'd rather get another 3D printer, a better gpu, a new tv, a sound bar for that TV, a cheap tablet or two, and a steamdeck.
I'm pretty sure I could get most, if not all of that, for the price of a new foldable phone, I'll stick to my keycera echo.
Introducing the all new iPhone Air FlipAs an Apple user who’s never used a foldable, I’m a little surprised that the book style hinge is the way they’re going. I kinda have a hard time picturing the use case for it being open wide like that, especially when you basically get a regular smartphone when it’s closed. Seems like “regular smartphone that folds like a flip phone” makes more sense.
So who are you going to call on the gpu?I could see how a folding phone could be nice, but I can't possibly justify the expense even if I had the money, I'd rather get another 3D printer, a better gpu, a new tv, a sound bar for that TV, a cheap tablet or two, and a steamdeck.
I'm pretty sure I could get most, if not all of that, for the price of a new foldable phone, I'll stick to my keycera echo.
Considering I'm running a 1070 I wouldn't expect to be spending more than about 1-2 hundred plus the money I get from selling the 1070 to get a decent upgrade.So who are you going to call on the gpu?
An RTX5090 is the same price as this or more.
This is one of those things that you do not understand until you have one. My Fold has been one of my best purchases. So just ignore me when I am laughing because someone messed up their game or can't show people information because of the small screen.
I'm an Apple guy these days, but I gotta say, if someone gave me this phone, I'd own the $#!+ out of it. It wouldn't be my primary phone, but I'd definitely stick my Verizon prepaid SIM in there. I'd rather it run iOS but I'd definitely get some use out of it.
Where it refers to the "cover screen" - does that mean the outside screen when the phone is folded?The Pixel 10 Pro Fold has a big 8-inch flexible OLED inside, clocking in at 2076×2152 pixels and 120Hz. It gets similarly bright, but the plastic layer is more reflective than the Gorilla Glass Victus 2 on the cover screen. While the foldable screen is legible, it's not as pleasant to use outside as high-brightness glass screens.
I mean, yeah - if Apple’s first foldable is basically an Air that folds down like an old flip phone, then sign me up. (Ideally with more camera lenses…)Introducing the all new iPhone Air Flip
and compare it with thatFolded: 154.9×76.2×10.1mm; Unfolded: 154.9×149.8×5.1mm; 258 g
| MatePad Mini (8.8", 2025) | 198.6 x 127.3 x 5.2 mm | 260 g |
So you don't need to get a Pixel 10 to get that advantage. I got a case with the magnets in it for my Pixel 9 Pro XL and it allows me to use MagSafe mounts and QI2 chargers.This might come off as unhinged (hyuk hyuk), but Pixelsnap is the most exciting thing about the Pixel 10 series to me (not just the pro fold). Being able to stick your phone to a stand or accessory without fiddling with a clamp seems like such a minor improvement, but it adds up very quickly. MagSafe is the best design change made to the iPhone in a long time, and I'm glad Google is making their own version.
iPads don't come with phone apps. But, you can FaceTime calls on Wi-Fi, install Google Voice for conventional calls, etc. Wi-Fi is prevalent these days.I know 10mm thick phones were the norm in 2010. And in 1995 the 2110 was just as heavy. But when i look at this
and compare it with that
i'm forever thinking, how many people actually want a tablet that fits in a pants pocket?
MatePad Mini (8.8", 2025) 198.6 x 127.3 x 5.2 mm 260 g
to me the only advantage of a smartphone vs a tablet of is: it's pants pocket-able.
it used to be weight and a size that fits normal sized single handed grip, but with the 17 pro max at 233g and 78mm width that's both long gone. Obviously there's also the software, for instance iPads don't come with the phone app.
yes i'd kill for a device that magically transforms from a 150g pocketable smartphone into a 14.6" galaxy tab s11 ultra. But such a device doesn't exist. and it won't ever.
Folding phones began with that small screen on the outside and people didn’t like it. So the screen began to get bigger until I covered the entire surface, just as on a tombstone phone.Count me as among those that doesn't 'get' a folding phone, though I can definitely see the usefulness of being able to 'open' your phone to a screen twice the normal size for productivity, reading, or sharing a document with someone next to you.
That being said, I wonder if this form factor is somewhat missing the mark, or if there's at least another viable option... when on the go, we often don't need the full functionality of our phones. Often, we glance at an update, an email, a text message, or make/receive phone calls. In those common (?) situations, we don't need full device functionality; I often respond to message notifications in iOS by pulling down on the notification and iOS provides a simple text box to type a quick reply.
In that vein: could a folding phone be made with a nice big screen on the inside, but a rather simple and smaller external display, one just large enough to glance at - and respond quickly (briefly) to - notifications with a minimal UI? This would certainly conserve battery life and the hinge itself, since (depending on your use) you are likely not going to be opening the hinge as often nor do you need to power an entire high-res external display. It would certainly appear as quite a slick device externally, with only a half-display on one side and the camera bundle on the other, the rest being mostly slab.
I'm not a designer, but this is something that occurred to me when this form factor became more prevalent. Who am I kidding, nobody would buy this![]()