AirDrop came to the Pixel 10 last year, and more Android phones will join the party in 2026.
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It's not coming "back"...just like the headphone jack. Upgrade or look for some Motorola / Sony / Chinese unit that still has it.Now, please put the fingerprint reader back onto the back of the phone
my pixel 4a can't hold out much longer
Instead of using either of Apple or Google's proprietary local sharing protocols, use an open source one. I've been using LocalSend for a couple of years at this point. In addition to phones, you can also install it on Windows, Mac, and Linux computers.
SD card slot is gone too save for select units. It's sad.It's not coming "back"...just like the headphone jack. Upgrade or look for some Motorola / Sony / Chinese unit that still has it.
Exactly. Stuff like this isn’t terribly useful if you commonly airdrop with new devices. authentication is just a matter of touching the devices together at that point.
Me too! And as long as you’re on the same network, you can send or receive from a device as long as one of them has this installed. No proprietary apps or companies to rely on at all!Instead of using either of Apple or Google's proprietary local sharing protocols, use an open source one. I've been using LocalSend for a couple of years at this point. In addition to phones, you can also install it on Windows, Mac, and Linux computers.
Kdeconnect , which works on Linux, windows and I think has a Mac beta, is great for things between your own devices.As someone with a non-Pixel 10 (but still a Pixel) Android phone with a MacBook Pro, I look forward to this rather than relying on Dropbox to sync my latest picture.
This wasn't a collaboration. The only thing Apple have done to help is not lock airdrop down furtherI’d honestly like to see the companies collaborate on more ways to make life easier for customers instead of giving them products that get canceled a few years later after people have come to rely on them.
By whose authority is Apple obligated to open up functionality to competitors, especially a competitor such as Alphabet? If you're frustrated that your Android phone can't do something that an iPhone can, switch.
Is LocalSend going to be adding Wi-Fi Aware? It's an open standard, and adding it means that you can interoperate with AirDrop-capable devices for basic functionality, which is useful to be able to send the person the LocalSend binary to enable a richer file sharing experience.Instead of using either of Apple or Google's proprietary local sharing protocols, use an open source one. I've been using LocalSend for a couple of years at this point. In addition to phones, you can also install it on Windows, Mac, and Linux computers.
Except... Quick Share isn't the same as AirDrop. It's fully proprietary, and only works on Android. The AirDrop/Wi-Fi Aware/NAN standard is cross-platform and works on pretty much every OS at this point (look up NAN clients for Linux). NAN is not only an open standard, it's also security reviewed. The only reason Android didn't support it in the past is that they had their own solution that was incompatible with everyone else's. So I'm glad they've fixed that.Switching doesn’t get you cross platform functionality. Other people will still have Android phones.
And this isn’t about functionality that’s missing on Android. Quick Share is basically the same as AirDrop, just between Android devices. And now between Android and iOS as well.
Fanboys indeed. Apple implemented an EU required standard as the article notes. Subsequently Google made changes to allow the file sharing interoperation. That is what standards are for. No need for any flame wars.There, I fixed it for you. Let the flamewars begin! Vim is better than Emacs!
Edit: And before Apple fanboys downvote this into oblivion, I would like it duly noted that Alphabet is the one providing this compatibility (which is true for most phone compatibility things). Apple can't be bothered to do similar on their end. Or use open source protocols where available. Or open up their own where they aren't published.
I think you have to be logged into a Google account.
I'm logged in. I tried it on my Android phone and also get the 404.I think you have to be logged into a Google account.
Except... Quick Share isn't the same as AirDrop. It's fully proprietary, and only works on Android. The AirDrop/Wi-Fi Aware/NAN standard is cross-platform and works on pretty much every OS at this point (look up NAN clients for Linux). NAN is not only an open standard, it's also security reviewed. The only reason Android didn't support it in the past is that they had their own solution that was incompatible with everyone else's. So I'm glad they've fixed that.
Look, as an avid Apple user (who read every Ars article about SMS/RCS/iMessage and Google’s multiple chat failures) - sometimes you have to have someone step in and say “this is good for everyone even if it’s not 100% ‘fair’ to this entity.”By whose authority is Apple obligated to open up functionality to competitors, especially a competitor such as Alphabet? If you're frustrated that your Android phone can't do something that an iPhone can, switch.
inb4 the obvious gotcha: Yes, in this case, the EU is that authority. I don't consider the EU to have a moral leg to stand on in this or many other matters, but apparently Apple feels it's not worth the effort to fight them in this case.
Android has its own AirDrop-like feature called Quick Share (formerly Google Nearby Share), but until recently, it couldn't communicate with Apple's AirDrop. As we reported in November, the European Union required Apple to implement the Wi-Fi Aware standard in AirDrop, which enabled Google to add support for the Pixel 10 lineup. Google confirmed it didn't need to work with Apple at all to make that happen.
Localsend requires a WiFi network. AirDrop automatically handles the connection between the phones. If the other person needs to install an app, I might as well just text it to them.Instead of using either of Apple or Google's proprietary local sharing protocols, use an open source one. I've been using LocalSend for a couple of years at this point. In addition to phones, you can also install it on Windows, Mac, and Linux computers.
https://meincmagazine.com/gadgets/202...tandards-and-now-android-can-support-airdrop/I was under the impression that your previous statement was false: this has nothing to do with a European court injunction, and Google just reverse engineered Airdrop. Others have done it before: https://owlink.org/
Either way, it's easy to disprove: does this implementation work with older apple hardware? Some commenters mention it works on iOS 15: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46062504
It would be nice to get a definitive answer. Is there any source stating that they are changing this thanks to a switch to Wi-Fi Aware?
I am quite excited about the possibilities brought forth by Wi-Fi Aware (or NAN without the commercial label: neighbor area networking), especially when combined with mesh overlay. networks such as yggdrasil, or sneakernet protocols such as Secure Scuttlebutt (SSB). Unfortunately the uptake has been very slow, and HW supporting it is relatively uncommon; the software stack isn't mature either, and it isn't well documented.
I hope this means manufacturers will bring firmware updates to support NAN or ADWL, as the owlink project usually uses monitor mode, and IIRC can't explicitly ACK packets, which causes suboptimal performance (including for power usage).
Anyway, watching this with interest, from the sidelines.
LocalSend is great, but it's not quite the same thing: both devices need to be on the same network. It doesn't use the internet, but it's more akin to something like SMB where the devices communicate over a preexisting network that does things like DHCP, routing, etc.Instead of using either of Apple or Google's proprietary local sharing protocols, use an open source one. I've been using LocalSend for a couple of years at this point. In addition to phones, you can also install it on Windows, Mac, and Linux computers.
Customers that care about interoperability and compatibility?By whose authority is Apple obligated to open up functionality to competitors, especially a competitor such as Alphabet?
This is great if you only communicate with iPhone owners. Before being forced by the EU, wasn't Apple essentially doing something much worse: telling you to go buy a new phone to share a file with another mobile phone user? Downloading a thing seems much more palatable than that. Kind of like how we have to download meet/zoom etc if you want to video chat with an Apple user...I cannot imagine telling someone to go download a thing in order to share a file with another mobile phone user. might as well email it to them at that point.
Wikipedia says QuickShare works with Windows 10 onward... At least for Android users. Presumably MS could update their software to leverage this the same way Alphabet is.I really hope this comes to Windows too. It’s incredibly convenient for sharing links and files between iOS devices
… this article is literally about Google and Apple systems working together. That is the state of things now and the situation I was relating.This is great if you only communicate with iPhone owners. Before being forced by the EU, wasn't Apple essentially doing something much worse: telling you to go buy a new phone to share a file with another mobile phone user? Downloading a thing seems much more palatable than that. Kind of like how we have to download meet/zoom etc if you want to video chat with an Apple user...
The new ultrasonic under screen fingerprint reader implemented on the Pixel 9 and later is flawless. The optical fingerprint reader that was put under screen on Pixel 6-8 was miserable. I had Pixel 6 and dearly missed the backside fingerprint reader from my Pixel 3 series. Now on Pixel 9 Pro, I don’t miss the backside fingerprint reader at all because the new under screen unit is so damn good.Now, please put the fingerprint reader back onto the back of the phone
my pixel 4a can't hold out much longer
under screen is also better ergonomically imo, and I find it less prone to accidental activation while putting my phone in my pocket.The new ultrasonic under screen fingerprint reader implemented on the Pixel 9 and later is flawless. The optical fingerprint reader that was put under screen on Pixel 6-8 was miserable. I had Pixel 6 and dearly missed the backside fingerprint reader from my Pixel 3 series. Now on Pixel 9 Pro, I don’t miss the backside fingerprint reader at all because the new under screen unit is so damn good.
Yeah, Ars’ claim that it has anything to do with Wi-Fi Aware is false. It’s a reimplementation of Apple’s AWDL as it works with Macs too (Wi-Fi Aware is limited to iOS devices in the iPhone 12 and later timeframe).I was under the impression that your previous statement was false: this has nothing to do with a European court injunction, and Google just reverse engineered Airdrop. Others have done it before: https://owlink.org/
Either way, it's easy to disprove: does this implementation work with older apple hardware? Some commenters mention it works on iOS 15: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46062504
It would be nice to get a definitive answer. Is there any source stating that they are changing this thanks to a switch to Wi-Fi Aware?
I am quite excited about the possibilities brought forth by Wi-Fi Aware (or NAN without the commercial label: neighbor area networking), especially when combined with mesh overlay. networks such as yggdrasil, or sneakernet protocols such as Secure Scuttlebutt (SSB). Unfortunately the uptake has been very slow, and HW supporting it is relatively uncommon; the software stack isn't mature either, and it isn't well documented.
I hope this means manufacturers will bring firmware updates to support NAN or ADWL, as the owlink project usually uses monitor mode, and IIRC can't explicitly ACK packets, which causes suboptimal performance (including for power usage).
Anyway, watching this with interest, from the sidelines.
I’d love to know more because the scolds in here are telling me it’s because the EU forced Apple to open things up or something, even though I can’t find anything that comes remotely close to finding that from any authoritative source.Yeah, Ars’ claim that it has anything to do with Wi-Fi Aware is false. It’s a reimplementation of Apple’s AWDL as it works with Macs too (Wi-Fi Aware is limited to iOS devices in the iPhone 12 and later timeframe).
It’s absolutely unrelated to any EU directives.
You're shocked to learn that Apple would like to make money selling premium phones. Generic homogeneous phones do not sell at a premium. You have to differentiate your product from other products to justify a higher price. Freely sharing your differentiating features with your competitors is not the path to money. When there is an international agreed upon standard, you should comply with it. That standard is the level playing field for competitors large and small, not just Google and Apple colluding on how they can work together.This is great if you only communicate with iPhone owners. Before being forced by the EU, wasn't Apple essentially doing something much worse: telling you to go buy a new phone to share a file with another mobile phone user? Downloading a thing seems much more palatable than that. Kind of like how we have to download meet/zoom etc if you want to video chat with an Apple user...