Gemini Live will learn to peer through your camera lens in a few weeks

The company claims this update to the Gemini 2.0 platform will finally make Gemini a "true assistant." Google suggests you could use Gemini Live's video chops to have an informative conversation with the robot while you explore new places or get help with piecing together an outfit by sharing your screen while online shopping.

Sounds like this will make dreams* come true!!!

* <Warning: Your dreams may differ from that of Globex Corp. Google, its subsidiaries, and shareholders>
 
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Who exactly is this for again?
Techbro investment firm analysts, who think that anything "AI" is going to make infinite money despite literally having no financially viable use cases. IMHO it seems that these particular investors are absolutely sure that AI is going to usher in the era of techno-feudalism, where 0.000001% of the people own everything and everyone else is beholden to them. They really, really, just want to be in on the ground floor of the new slavery age. Think of the shareholder value!
 
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> What are some outfit ideas for these pants, please be honest:
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Yeah, you can go ahead and throw those out.
 
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No company has cracked the code on making money from generative AI just yet.
Porn.
Lots and lots of low-effort AI-generated porn.

At least for people who aren't picky about the number of fingers on the subject. (Or other appendages, for that matter. Heck, that might be a new genre and profit center...)
 
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Well, I watched the demonstration videos.

I, too, can pick out an outfit to wear and identify things around me that I see.

This is supposed to be worth $20/month to me, and a net loss to Google? Who exactly is this for again?
With the amount of processing power that's needed for some of these models, I am wondering if there are any bad actors who are paying money for a ton of puppet accounts with GenAI subscriptions making as many computationally expensive prompts out there to make competitors bleed money.
 
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Well, I watched the demonstration videos.

I, too, can pick out an outfit to wear and identify things around me that I see.

This is supposed to be worth $20/month to me, and a net loss to Google? Who exactly is this for again?
Regular people (as in, no one reading this). I have family members that absolutely will love this. I think it’s a terrible idea long term but …
 
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The part I find especially bizarre, the more I think about it, is the basic premise that I want to use my phone to call a computer to ask it these questions. If I have my phone and I have questions, Gemini is at the very long end of multiple literal contact lists.

I totally get technology that helps people connect to each other, and technology that provides assistance to people with disabilities, but I'm not getting this idea of a computer that I want to have a conversation with.

I'm not even sure there's that many stoners that are going to want to spend time talking to a computer, not even in that state where you can have deep philosophical discussions with a couch cushion.
 
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Google need to focus on getting the basics right. Gemini integration still can't get store operating hours correct and it's literally interfacing with Google maps but it's still wrong. So it's extensions aren't working. The "Okay Google" is also buggy, only with Gemini, the old assistant aces these.
 
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Regular people (as in, no one reading this). I have family members that absolutely will love this. I think it’s a terrible idea long term but …

Wait, you're telling me that there are normal people who trust software engineers on matters of fashion?
 
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With the amount of processing power that's needed for some of these models, I am wondering if there are any bad actors who are paying money for a ton of puppet accounts with GenAI subscriptions making as many computationally expensive prompts out there to make competitors bleed money.
i've thought this as well. wouldn't even have to be directed at anyone's subscription tier either. according to mr zitron (and others), these fools lose money on every query / response, even at the free access level. the most elegant scenario that i can imagine is using a low-power stand-alone AI to query a larger model relentlessly. triumph of the ants, so to speak.
 
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i've thought this as well. wouldn't even have to be directed at anyone's subscription tier either. according to mr zitron (and others), these fools lose money on every query / response, even at the free access level. the most elegant scenario that i can imagine is using a low-power stand-alone AI to query a larger model relentlessly. triumph of the ants, so to speak.
I wonder if a query botnet can cause datacenters to overheat or take down its electrical systems.
 
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Regular people (as in, no one reading this). I have family members that absolutely will love this. I think it’s a terrible idea long term but …
I mean, "regular people" if we must use the term, have certainly been showing me the outputs of prompts from time to time, as opposed to just encountering slop while going about my business. But it has the same energy as someone showing me a cool rock they found; a novelty. From a product standpoint it doesn't seem worth $20/month or a net loss to Google, much less all the other lurking horrors. And indeed I have found that the "regular people" have an attention span for novelties that extends for a month or two, though I suppose that's just anecdata. Anyway: I am underwhelmed.
 
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Years ago I had this dream of an assistive device that could help people with early symptoms of Alzheimer's. The system could look around, be programmed to know typical daily routines, and would have infinite patience to explain things. "Your husband left to the supermarket, but he will be right back" (repeat ten times throughout the 40 minutes). It could help with things like "where did I put my sweater" ("you just took it off and left it in the bathroom"). It could warn the other partner "Your wife is trying to leave the house" etc.

Present-day elderly might not be that welcoming to such audio cues, but future generations that got used to talking with an AI/LLM might actually use it. Depending on how rapidly the patient's disease is progressing, this could make a partner feel more confident leaving someone at home for a while.

Edit: forgot to add: a system like the one in the article could be adapted to do exactly this. I get the skepticism about the current AI craze, but there may be some genuinely beneficial applications that could improve people's quality of life.
 
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Years ago I had this dream of an assistive device that could help people with early symptoms of Alzheimer's. The system could look around, be programmed to know typical daily routines, and would have infinite patience to explain things. "Your husband left to the supermarket, but he will be right back" (repeat ten times throughout the 40 minutes). It could help with things like "where did I put my sweater" ("you just took it off and left it in the bathroom"). It could warn the other partner "Your wife is trying to leave the house" etc.

Present-day elderly might not be that welcoming to such audio cues, but future generations that got used to talking with an AI/LLM might actually use it. Depending on how rapidly the patient's disease is progressing, this could make a partner feel more confident leaving someone at home for a while.

Edit: forgot to add: a system like the one in the article could be adapted to do exactly this. I get the skepticism about the current AI craze, be there may be some genuinely beneficial applications that could improve people's quality of life.
Who is liable in this scenario where you leave your partner at home with their assistive device? We can't even get good cheap prosthetics for people because of liability.
 
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Years ago I had this dream of an assistive device that could help people with early symptoms of Alzheimer's.
The Helpful Panopticon, in other words. Well, I like it better than Larry Ellison's version.

I do like the idea of genuinely beneficial applications. This (edited to clarify: Google's Geminivision thingamajig) doesn't seem to be that, though.

And I wonder if the actually-beneficial version would come in the form of a fully baked, homologated medical assistive device in that case as opposed to a $20/mo app subscription hosted on a phone.

Who knows anymore, though, and that is not sarcasm.

Anyway, I would welcome that story, if it didn't look like vaporware or quackery.
 
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Wow, so many negative comments. So much lack of imagination.
Incorrect, reverse it. It's the myriad of examples of abuse of technology to make life worse that makes it trivial for us to imagine how this technology will also be (immediately and fully) used to continue abusing us all.

You're the one who lacks imagination (or life experience that would give you a realistic outlook on the state of tech and it's future).
 
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Who is liable in this scenario where you leave your partner at home with their assistive device? We can't even get good cheap prosthetics for people because of liability.
Interesting, I wonder if that's tied to getting it covered by medical insurance. I got the sense that in the USA companies can just slap "Beta" on a potentially life-threatening product and get away with it for years. As long as the device doesn't need to be approved like a medical device, could it not be marketed as something that is helpful for those willing to pay for it?
 
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Interesting, I wonder if that's tied to getting it covered by medical insurance. I got the sense that in the USA companies can just slap "Beta" on a potentially life-threatening product and get away with it for years. As long as the device doesn't need to be approved like a medical device, could it not be marketed as something that is helpful for those willing to pay for it?
Only if you're Elon Musk.

(sigh...)
 
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