Framework Laptop 16 upgrades make it look less like an unfinished prototype

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I recall dreaming of a dockable laptop that would help a laptop become a true desktop replacement half a lifetime ago when my Alienware with SLI graphics cards died. It didn't even survive 4 years for me; that thing could roast a chicken. Externalizing the biggest source of heat would likely go a long way in preventing gaming laptops from dying so quickly, and the weight savings would make it more useful on the go. I've been eying framework with interest, I hope this is a decent set of kit.
 
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I am surprised that their one piece keyboard lacks the 10 key. Presumably that means that it is the most popular option. Genuinely curious, why would someone choose to have less features when the laptop has enough space for a full keyboard? I can't imagine the cost savings are very large.
My wife prefers a minimalist keyboard. Form over function. And she's doing spreadsheet work about half the day, and she's very proficient with a numpad from her days working retail. 🤷
 
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I am surprised that their one piece keyboard lacks the 10 key. Presumably that means that it is the most popular option. Genuinely curious, why would someone choose to have less features when the laptop has enough space for a full keyboard?
If you have a keypad, the keyboard is off-center, which can be awkward to use.
 
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I am surprised that their one piece keyboard lacks the 10 key. Presumably that means that it is the most popular option. Genuinely curious, why would someone choose to have less features when the laptop has enough space for a full keyboard? I can't imagine the cost savings are very large.
I personally like numberpads but hate how they move my mouse further away from my keyboard and how they typically move my home keys on my keyboard away from the center of my laptop screen.

Both of these issues are resolved with my external numberpad. Use it only when I want it.
 
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clewis

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If you have a keypad, the keyboard is off-center, which can be awkward to use.
It doesn't feel any more awkward than having a giant trackpad that I keep touching. I looks nice, but I prefer an external keyboard and mouse.

Most of my day to day is typing and copying pasting, which a mouse is much better at. I doom scroll on the phone, so the trackpad is an inferior input device.
 
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Being very much a DIY guy, I love the esthetic of the Framework. In a laptop, I don't need a lot of graphics horsepower, since it's mostly for productivity work. And my eyes don't really capture the nuances of higher-end graphics.

As long as it'll run Linux Mint at a speed that doesn't make me think I've aged significantly from task to task, I'd be good with any of them. My current "laptop" is a Asus "notebook" from almost 15 years ago. It came out when Win7Pro was still new.

So this is on my short list of things to replace what I have when what I have won't work anymore.
 
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One glaring omission: display for 16". Its specs are just pathetic: 500 nits brightness, no HDR, and just 2k.

Come on, we need an HDR 4k option!
500 nits is pretty common, but yeah, ideally some upgrade option for a 4k display and then either mini-led or oled one would be nice.
 
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I am surprised that their one piece keyboard lacks the 10 key. Presumably that means that it is the most popular option. Genuinely curious, why would someone choose to have less features when the laptop has enough space for a full keyboard? I can't imagine the cost savings are very large.
Because lots of us want our home keys centered above out trackpad and below our screen. I hate that larger PC laptops can hardly be found without 10-key! An external numpad is much much better.
 
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I am surprised that their one piece keyboard lacks the 10 key. Presumably that means that it is the most popular option. Genuinely curious, why would someone choose to have less features when the laptop has enough space for a full keyboard? I can't imagine the cost savings are very large.
I rarely use a tenkey, and prefer a centered keyboard.
 
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Matthew J.

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One glaring omission: display for 16". Its specs are just pathetic: 500 nits brightness, no HDR, and just 2k.

Come on, we need an HDR 4k option!
I have one, and the display is quite nice I think. Bright colors, sharp text, I can hardly see pixels and honestly 4k would be wasted on a laptop display. When I want more pixels I plug it into a docking station connected to a 48" 4k OLED.

HDR would occasionally come in handy though. I have some games that do look better with it, at least in a dark room, but I'd hardly call it a dealbreaker.
 
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Might be worth noting that the stated performance benefit of OCuLink for eGPUs comes with, I believe, two tradeoffs: No hot swap and no power.
That's why its sold as developer kit and a not a polished Product. Still got me excited. Also no bifurcation, meaning you can split the 8 lanes among different devices without a controller. So no 8x1 SSDs for example
 
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I guess the silver lining of eyesight deteriorating as you get older, is not needing to buy expensive displays. I can't quite see the pixels on this ~85ppi monitor that's less than a meter in front of me unless I put glasses on. The upside of which is that I don't need to upgrade these monitors :)
Also, I can dispense with anti-aliasing in games, my eyes give me that for free.

It'll happen to you too!
 
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I personally like numberpads but hate how they move my mouse further away from my keyboard and how they typically move my home keys on my keyboard away from the center of my laptop screen.

Both of these issues are resolved with my external numberpad. Use it only when I want it.
With the modular Framework 16 keyboard and ten-key, you can put the ten key on the left. Or I guess you could learn to mouse left handed :)

Though my biggest issue with ten-key on a laptop is the offset keyboard. I saw one model that had it as an alternate mode for the touchpad.

https://www.asus.com/us/support/faq/1038283/
 
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