Four astronauts depart for the Moon with a fiery send-off from Cape Canaveral

SirOmega

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“The crew (on Orion) has to be much more proficient to know where to go to see the right information. The SpaceX vehicle was built so that your kids could jump off their video games and jump in Dragon. A lot of it is intuitive, and that’s a good thing. That’s the paradigm that they are shooting for.”
Sounds like an apt comparison for the webcasts too. SpaceX has all the graphics and telemetry. NASA had... not much.
 
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I really like the mix of physical controls, glass cockpit displays, and mechanical switches for critical functions on Orion.

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The translation hand controller is the square in the upper right hand corner of each pilot station. The rotational hand controller is the joystick looking thing. the cursor controller is that thing to the left.
 
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Zitchas

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It was a wonderful launch. It's awesome to see people come together and actually achieve something hopeful and aspirational.

I know the future of space travel is probably more with Starship or Falcon 9 (or immitators thereof), but I genuinely find NASA launches to be more inspirational than I do SpaceX. Despite the fact that SpaceX's streams are just so much more informational and useful and actually better at explaining what's going on, with better mission tracking info. But NASA appears to be learning. It's amusing to contrast.

In any case, good luck, and Godspeed to the astronauts. I will be looking forward to watching all the footage from this mission, and I wish them all the best. I hope many more follow in their footsteps.

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from: https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/55182878409-d6c46a73a0-k.jpg
 
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Yeah, why no rangefinder? Is that something else that is delayed or was that not in Orion’s design?
You aren't going to like the answer.

This Orion is incomplete. It has no nose hatch, IDSS port, or docking tunnel. The rangefinder, actually a fancy 2D scanning LIDAR is in <drumroll> the docking tunnel. Artemis III will be the first "for real this time" everything included Orion. I mean for the low low price of a billy each you can't expect it to be complete can you?
 
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Alex Enders

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The launcher’s twin boosters consumed their solid propellant in a little more than two minutes after reaching an altitude of more than 150,000 feet, then jettisoned to fall into the Atlantic Ocean. They won’t be recovered.
Also not recovered: the four RS-25 engines on the core stage, which borders on a criminal offense in my mind. Those engines are things of absolute beauty, and are reusable. But SLS decided to make them one-and-done. Of the four on this mission, I think three of them flew on a Shuttle mission, and one of them is a Frankenstein from leftover parts.
 
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You aren't going to like the answer.

This Orion is incomplete. It has no nose hatch, IDSS port, or docking tunnel. The rangefinder, actually a 2D scanning LIDAR is in <drumroll> the docking tunnel. Artemis III will be the first "for real this time" everything included Orion.

So,...they might actually need Red Green, some duct tape, and a couple of old K-Cars?
 
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Maybe it's just me, but it all looks a bit crude, TBH. Almost like software with a UI designed by an engineer with no real HMI training or design experience. Functional, but one of the panels on the left even appears to be mounted crookedly.
What I posted was a mockup for training and one that has been beat up for years. The final version in the capsule is more polished but due to the positioning it is hard to find photos that show the whole layout.

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I really like the mix of physical controls, glass cockpit displays, and mechanical switches for critical functions on Orion.

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The translation hand controller is the square in the upper right hand corner of each pilot station. The rotational hand controller is the joystick looking thing. the cursor controller is that thing to the left.

With the caveat that my experience is confined to DCS and as a pilot I'm only just slightly ahead of Stevie Wonder in terms of safety, I can see why the pilot mentioned familiarity from the F/A-18 series. Those sticks and the vertical rectangular MFDs gave me some mild nostalgia for a simulator cockpit, I can only imagine how a real pilot would react.

(I would provide a photograph but google will only offer me several thousand screenshots of DCS modded cockpits)
 
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Wolfie2

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The upper stage will vent all of its hydrogen fuel before Orion moves in close.
I assume the upper stage has some smaller thrusters or something to safely deorbit? Tell me NASA is practising good orbital hygiene and not just leaving it up there to decay over a random city?

Edit: Just saw this on a SpaceNews page so I think we’re all good:

“After the end of those tests, ICPS will perform a burn about five hours after liftoff to ensure it reenters over the Atlantic Ocean.”
 
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Meowl

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What I posted was a mockup for training and one that has been beat up for years. The final version in the capsule is more polished but due to the positioning it is hard to find photos that show the whole layout.

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Thanks for clarifying the original photo source. I was thinking how the prominent use of "80/20" aluminum struts would make that company very proud, and also thinking it looks like a lab bench?
 
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