Feds putting the kibosh on national EV charging program
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Good think Musk was there to prevent the waste (/s) and keep his own business more valuable.
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"The order may be illegal."
Does it even matter, he and anyone that does his work are immune (he can pardon them) to the illegality of anything that Trump orders now.
Does it even matter, he and anyone that does his work are immune (he can pardon them) to the illegality of anything that Trump orders now.
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Don't you have to build EV infrastructure sooner or later?
Or is the idea that private companies will do so without any federal funding?
Or is the idea that private companies will do so without any federal funding?
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The GOP comes in with a wrecking ball, then the Democrats spend years crossing every i and dotting every t and not actually getting very far, before the GOP comes back. Billions in 2021, and there’s 30 stations actually built in 2025. Ridiculous.
The U.S. is fucked as long as the centrist-reactionary system survives.
The U.S. is fucked as long as the centrist-reactionary system survives.
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The idea is if you wreck the government then you can steal all the money.
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A pardon prevents criminal penalties. But civil suits can be filed. https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...rection-charlottesville-liability-1235244337/
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The important part isn't that, it's "do not comply before this has been challenged in court".
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Corruption is how they stop this. I’m sure it’s only on pause until they can figure out how to either a) steal the money for themselves, b) give it to states/companies who will do little or no work and states funnel the money back to T and his cronies, or c) funnel it to Elmo for a combination of a and b, where anything that might get built is part of Tesla’s charging network, hurting other charging / EV companies.
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[expletive deleted] would like the answer to be 'no', because of the money he got from the oil industry. He wants to slow ev adoption, solar adoption, etc. Hide/destroy data about global warming, etc.
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Everyone's hero… right from these very pages.
I said he was a scoundrel all along.
I said he was a scoundrel all along.
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You are thinking too hard about this. To the Trump base it is as simple as EV = bad.
It might seem Trump and Musk are strange bedfellows here, but perhaps not. Tesla already has the biggest fast charging network, so this might be a bit of feeding two birds with one scone.
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Does this mean 30 individual charging stations, or 30 places that can handle multiple EVs at the same time?i Ether way, this number seems really low, considering the program became law 4 years ago.
Why does it take so long to build? If we are all supposed to switch to EVs ASAP, it seems to be moving at a snail's pace for something that would seem uncomplicated: find a public area with parking (e.g. rest stops or parks), run utilities, install a charger. Except for the utilities, I don't see how this would be much different than installing an electronic parking meter.
Edit: typo
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for some people the answer is always: "fuck you"
a big problem. even bigger is it's centuries old. but even bigger, is how few other people can believe it.
people would literally rather believe in space aliens.
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The outcomes would have been much better if they had pushed for speed of execution rather than ensuring completely perfect certification on everything. The outcomes of this program have been pitiful, and that's a real shame.
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I'd like to know specifics on how many people will be out of work because of this. I know I'm stereotyping but I have to imagine a good chunk of the people actually doing the building of these charging stations are the type of people who voted for Trump.
Surely at some point these actions will screw enough of his base that didn't realize they were actually benefitting indirectly from all these programs that are being slashed that they will come to their senses, right?
Surely at some point these actions will screw enough of his base that didn't realize they were actually benefitting indirectly from all these programs that are being slashed that they will come to their senses, right?
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The saying is “cut off your nose to spite your face” not despite, but in this case your word change almost seems to fit.
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All part of the normalization of rule, rather than government.
The Constitution (in one of those tiresome parts that's not about the well regulated militia) requires that the president "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." The Infrastructure and Jobs Act of 2021 is one such law: it's not a suggestion. The president is now choosing which laws the United States will execute, depending on his personal whims. That way lies madness (and inconsistency, which is pretty not-great for business).
And the Tik Tok reinstatement was just the same - contravening H.R. 7521, the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, which was introduced by a Republican, forced into a larger bill by the GOP, and passed the House 352 to 65. The Supreme Court of the United States later found it to be constitutional. And the president chose, on his own, to ignore it. We've become a kingdom, the media is focused on phones instead of precedent, and the vast majority of Americans aren't paying the slightest bit of attention as we tumble into the Third World.
This is how we find out who the real "Consititutional Conservatives" are.
The Constitution (in one of those tiresome parts that's not about the well regulated militia) requires that the president "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." The Infrastructure and Jobs Act of 2021 is one such law: it's not a suggestion. The president is now choosing which laws the United States will execute, depending on his personal whims. That way lies madness (and inconsistency, which is pretty not-great for business).
And the Tik Tok reinstatement was just the same - contravening H.R. 7521, the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, which was introduced by a Republican, forced into a larger bill by the GOP, and passed the House 352 to 65. The Supreme Court of the United States later found it to be constitutional. And the president chose, on his own, to ignore it. We've become a kingdom, the media is focused on phones instead of precedent, and the vast majority of Americans aren't paying the slightest bit of attention as we tumble into the Third World.
This is how we find out who the real "Consititutional Conservatives" are.
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Plenty of people out there who will simultaneously enroll in every bit of public assistance out available, and then vote Republican because “Democrats are spending everyone’s money” these same people are often known to make out of pocket comments about people of color.
Don’t underestimate an asshole's willingness to hurt themselves if it hurts someone they don’t like.
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Directly, and in the immediate, very few jobs will be lost because of how slowly this was being rolled out (also, very little money will be “saved”).
But in the long run, preventing the US from being just a couple years late relative to the global average in this major technological transition, and instead relegating the U.S. to being half a decade or more late, will be economically disastrous.
The U.S. started the millenium well placed to be a leading — if not the leading — manufacturer and inventor of the new technologies that were going to be how economies power themselves in the coming century. Now it’s an also-ran and every GOP government pushes the U.S. further back.
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Hey GOP: It's the law of the land. It's not optional. Who decides it's wasteful? Against what metrics? And as compared to what other programs? Donald Trump taps his heels together three times, incants the word "Wasteful," and now laws don't apply? A country that enables one man to decide "We're going to follow that law, that law, but not that one, that one, or that one because I ranted against that guy last week" becomes Eswatini within not many months.
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Musk simply doesn't care what happens to Tesla anymore. He's bored with it and has moved on to other toys. The only people who haven't figured this out are the Tesla stonkholders.
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Remember, son: Republicans value the rule of law, which is why ... (checks notes) ... they elected a felon who ... (checks notes) ... in one year in the 90s claimed over a billion dollars on his taxes in losses that weren't his to claim which netted him about $400 million from the IRS but ... (checks notes) ... was also an adjudicated rapist who was also credibly accused by Epstein victims as young as 13 years old of having raped them but ... (checks notes) ... was only impeached twice and ... (checks notes) ... is forbidden by the courts of running a charity because he was caught violating pretty much every rule governing charities but ... (checks notes) ... brags about how he can get away with breaking laws.
Republicans: We are the only party that stands for the rule of law!
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DaVuVuZeLa
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The idea is to do neither and hope we keep driving ICE vehicles.
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They are going to build coal refuelling stations instead. Beautiful, clean coal.
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The electrical demand for EV charging, especially a pool of chargers, can require a significant amount of power that might strain the electrical grid in the area. Utilities usually love adding load, but the process can be slow as they are somewhat conservative. Rightfully so in most cases, since they don't want to fry the equipment.
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OT, about Wired:
I know a lot of Ars readers have a rather dim view of Wired; apparently they’ve received some acclaim this week for coverage of the administration, leading to a significant rise in subs.
I know a lot of Ars readers have a rather dim view of Wired; apparently they’ve received some acclaim this week for coverage of the administration, leading to a significant rise in subs.
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Reactionaries always exist, in every country. Managing them is part of the task of governance and the Democrats suck at it.
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$5 billion approved to be spent, but only a couple million actually spent.
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Screaming backwards in time and across dimensions to the shittiest version of “Pleasantville”…
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